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 May 21 2009, 04:14 PM
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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935  |
I think it pretty obvious at this point that we're dealing with Promoted Fanboys - but are we Running The Asylum? Has terminal Contuinity Porn set in? Are Our Dragons really that Different?
Most importantly, do you agree? |
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May 21 2009, 04:46 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
That Shadowrun page is a great read! I'm going to have to look through these more when I get out of work.
--Promoted Fanboy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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May 21 2009, 05:25 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Canada Member No.: 12,350 |
Awesome.
You know, Shadowrun's with its IE's suffer from a serious case of Our Elves Are Better. I don't know about other people, but I've never really gotten off on the whole IE thing. Sometimes it just seems like a case of canon writers saying, "Your character will never be as good as my character. Ever." |
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May 21 2009, 07:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 17-April 08 Member No.: 15,907 |
The real question here is what is Ancient History trying to distract us all away from? Heavens knows it's almost impossible to just "browse" that wiki for anything less than several hours in a sitting...
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May 21 2009, 07:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 |
DONT CLICK ANY LINKS!
It destroys your life! It makes you sensitive to the flow of plot and canon! You think that's good but it isn't! Nothing is fun anymore! STOP! |
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May 21 2009, 07:45 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Canada Member No.: 12,350 |
QUOTE (Kingboy @ May 21 2009, 01:34 PM)  The real question here is what is Ancient History trying to distract us all away from? Heavens knows it's almost impossible to just "browse" that wiki for anything less than several hours in a sitting... QFT. Everything on that site is a link to another funny/interesting article. |
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May 21 2009, 08:12 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,162 Joined: 16-November 07 Member No.: 14,229 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 21 2009, 12:14 PM) I think it pretty obvious at this point that we're dealing with Promoted Fanboys - but are we Running The Asylum? Has terminal Contuinity Porn set in? Are Our Dragons really that Different? Most importantly, do you agree? Don't you have a Shadowrun in Space book to be writing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) -paws |
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May 21 2009, 08:16 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
There is an occasional problem with the continuity porn. At some point you have to say "This was dumb, let's pretend we didn't go there".
Oh, and don't ever click on any of these links when you are on a deadline. |
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May 21 2009, 08:40 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 15-February 08 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 15,686 |
Is TVtropes.org written by anyone else but anime/manga nerds? It's like when I go to Wikipedia to look up info on the Israeli Mob and all I find are article stubs... but oh I can find anything and everything about Green Lantern.
EDIT: Of course it is and they admitted it. I challenge anyone to name an RPG franchise that's over fifteen years old that isn't being written by the players. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) I wouldn't say Shadowrun has fallen into the realm of Continuity Porn; unlike mainstream superhero comics I can pick up the core BBB and know all I really need to know to play the game. Anything published that's a shout-out to previous sourcebooks usually makes sense in-context without a detailed explanation. I didn't know what a "shedim" was at first but in-context I understood it was some sort of zombie. There are examples of Running the Asylum. But as they aren't to the detriment of the game or hit the realm of the ridiculous, I don't sweat them, and can usual forgive writers' pet characters. No one is innocent of this so I'm not going to point fingers. Gamers turn conservative and scream about fanboyism when there's any change to the status quo but it's usually over something completely minute. I typically equate them to the loon who screamed at Warren Ellis during a convention for killing the completely fictional character of Fahrenheit in Stormwatch because he was "in love with her." If someone complains that Element XYZ is gone, I'm usually thinking it's because he wants to make sweet, sweet love to it. |
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May 21 2009, 08:57 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
That page is allmost as bad as using wiki to find out things about people from marvel/dc universe <.<
one link leads to another, and after some hours you are still not back at square one. |
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May 21 2009, 08:58 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (kzt @ May 21 2009, 08:16 PM) There is an occasional problem with the continuity porn. At some point you have to say "This was dumb, let's pretend we didn't go there". Highlander II. - J. |
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May 21 2009, 10:35 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ May 21 2009, 03:58 PM) Highlander II. - J. What are you talking about? There was no Highlander II. |
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May 21 2009, 10:41 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,263 Joined: 4-March 08 From: Blighty Member No.: 15,736 |
QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 21 2009, 08:38 PM) DONT CLICK ANY LINKS! It destroys your life! It makes you sensitive to the flow of plot and canon! You think that's good but it isn't! Nothing is fun anymore! STOP! I find it actually makes things more fun. Embrace the madness. |
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May 21 2009, 11:07 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 21 2009, 06:14 PM) Has terminal Contuinity Porn set in? Honestly, no. I know. What I did in Shadows of Asia was pure Continuity Porn. I did not stop even half a second to ask myself which corps would make a good materials for game masters. Hopefully, I quit freelancing right after that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) EDIT : Totally in love with that website by the way. I'm probably gonna spend days there, considering my trope for narrative structure theory. |
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May 22 2009, 03:10 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I still think our dragons aren't /that/ different.
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May 22 2009, 03:48 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
QUOTE (kzt @ May 21 2009, 12:16 PM) There is an occasional problem with the continuity porn. At some point you have to say "This was dumb, let's pretend we didn't go there". AhhhhhSURGE what? |
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May 22 2009, 04:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 640 Joined: 8-October 07 Member No.: 13,611 |
SR could do for some Crisis on Infinite (Sixth) Worlds to get rid of the worlds where SURGE and Earthdawn happened.
Then after 20 years have passed Harlequin can return from the dead as part of another crisis event. |
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May 22 2009, 05:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 22 2009, 05:10 AM) I still think our dragons aren't /that/ different. Nope. they are actually quite the same as in other fantasy games. Ancient, superintelligent, superpowered masterminds on crack who are all "Well look at those small pitful creatures around me." I'd actually love to see a feral Dragon in SR with nothing more in mind but utter destruction and the power to pull it off. |
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May 22 2009, 05:45 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Aden is the closest thing to that in SR cannon. He's not mindless, but he sure likes to promote chaos and has been known to level a city or two in his day.
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May 22 2009, 05:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
Lurking Troper. So far I've found a LOT that weren't on the Wiki previously:
--AI Is A Crapshoot (DEUS.) --Blade Below The Arm --Cyberspace --Did Not Do The Research --Heroic Sociopath (I.E., EVERYONE.) --Hollywood Hacking --Japan Takes Over The World --More Dakka --Psycho For Hire (WHY IS THIS MISSING?!) --Street Samurai (AND THIS?!) --Virtual Ghost (Ghosts in the Machine) EDIT: Edited them in. |
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May 22 2009, 06:19 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
I honestly have no fraggin clue why people hate SURGE so much.
Why all the hate people? |
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May 22 2009, 06:44 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Eh. Its been hashed out many times before. Suffice to say its my all-time least favorite timeline development and if I had to choose something to be retconned out of existence, SURGE would be it hands down. Just my opinion.
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May 22 2009, 06:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
Right, but WHY?
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May 22 2009, 07:09 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Because if I wanted to roleplay the Mos Eisley Cantina scene from Star Wars I wouldn't be playing SR. Its just doesn't fit my vision of the world. Ask others why they dislike IEs or why they prefer the term decker to hackers or why they like playing street sams over magicians. Its just an opinion. But like I said, you are welcome to read any of the existing threads that hash out peoples' reasons. Thats not what *this* thread is about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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May 22 2009, 07:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
Oh, no, it's fine. It's just that "I don't like it." "Why?" "Because I don't like it." didn't seem that helpful.
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