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post May 28 2009, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (Fuchs @ May 28 2009, 10:33 AM) *
By your logic playing a face that is not a pornomancer, and therefore has always 10+ dice less than would be possible is no fun

Sadly, i believe that is what he really believes and where Stahlseele and i will always have an argument which mirrors the Joke about the Atheist, the Agnostic and the Believers encounter with a burning bush. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) But that's how his group rolls and i'm glad i don't have to participate.
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post May 28 2009, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 28 2009, 12:17 PM) *
Sadly, i believe that is what he really believes and where Stahlseele and i will always have an argument which mirrors the Joke about the Atheist, the Agnostic and the Believers encounter with a burning bush. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) But that's how his group rolls and i'm glad i don't have to participate.

Heck no, even i consider the Pornomancer too over the top extreme.
But things like the -2 from Allergy, -2 from Addiction. .THAT is dumb.
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post May 28 2009, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 28 2009, 12:37 PM) *
Heck no, even i consider the Pornomancer too over the top extreme.
But things like the -2 from Allergy, -2 from Addiction. .THAT is dumb.


Even if the points gotten from this are used in a way to compensate, even overcompensate?

What do you consider dumber, the near-pornomancer with the alergy/addiction, or the face that never got into double digit DPs?
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post May 28 2009, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (Wesley Street @ May 27 2009, 03:06 PM) *
Spot on! Warhammer 40K and men with gray beards re-enacting the Battle of Gettysburg with pewter minis are exactly what I have in mind for an "I win" style of play. It's a very old-school miniature war-gaming mentality. I know that modern RPGs evolved out of the mini-based war-gaming and I respect that. But it's long past time to leave that nest behind.


I like how that "respect" is sandwiched between "gray beards" and "leave that nest behind."
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post May 28 2009, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (Fuchs @ May 28 2009, 12:46 PM) *
Even if the points gotten from this are used in a way to compensate, even overcompensate?

What do you consider dumber, the near-pornomancer with the alergy/addiction, or the face that never got into double digit DPs?

Dumbest is the allergy/addiction.
Dicepool of 15 to 25 is not really Mancer in any kind or way, as all aspects can get such dice pools.
Mancing is dice pools of 30+ in my eyes. Pornomancer can get 40 to 50 dice.
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post May 28 2009, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 28 2009, 01:26 PM) *
Dumbest is the allergy/addiction.
Dicepool of 15 to 25 is not really Mancer in any kind or way, as all aspects can get such dice pools.
Mancing is dice pools of 30+ in my eyes. Pornomancer can get 40 to 50 dice.


So you'd consider the character with 30 dp and allergy/addiction dumb while the one who did not even reach double digits in his DP ok? Why do you think the former hurts his group while the latter doesn't?
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post May 28 2009, 12:58 PM
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If both is combined, it's still dumb.
if only allergy/addiction with small dicepool? frigging unbelieveable dumb.
if high DP without something? dumb mancer
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post May 28 2009, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (Bob Lord of Evil @ May 28 2009, 07:11 AM) *
I like how that "respect" is sandwiched between "gray beards" and "leave that nest behind."

I think you're taking the quote out of context.

What Wes is saying (and pardon me if I'm putting words in his mouth) but what he means is that roleplaying games, while having evolved from a miniature war background, have become their own thing and gamers have to stop adopting the "us-vs-them" / "we need to win the game!" mentality.

It's not a backwards slap against people's other hobbies. IIRC, Wes plays Warhammer (or Warmachine) himself.
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post May 28 2009, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 28 2009, 02:58 PM) *
If both is combined, it's still dumb.
if only allergy/addiction with small dicepool? frigging unbelieveable dumb.
if high DP without something? dumb mancer


What then do you consider a "not dumb" face?
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post May 28 2009, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (ravensmuse @ May 28 2009, 08:26 AM) *
IIRC, Wes plays Warhammer (or Warmachine) himself.

After years of dragging my feet as my friends yanked my arms, I'm starting to (slowly) learn Warhammer 40K. It's nifty in its way...
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post May 28 2009, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (Fuchs @ May 28 2009, 03:30 PM) *
What then do you consider a "not dumb" face?

15 to 25 Dice in his main shtick, a reasonable skill-set to compliment his main shtick and to keep him alive if his main shtick does not work.
nothing that costs him 2 dice in EVERYTHING he does.
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post May 28 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 28 2009, 12:25 PM) *
15 to 25 Dice in his main shtick, a reasonable skill-set to compliment his main shtick and to keep him alive if his main shtick does not work.
nothing that costs him 2 dice in EVERYTHING he does.


Darn I failed.

But how come I and my group are having so much fun when we are failing? Is something wrong with us?

Perhaps I should develop an allergy to this addiction I have to DS and SR and post anyway, but slightly less effectively.
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post May 28 2009, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 28 2009, 02:44 AM) *
How the hell does one get addicted to something that one is allergic to anyways?


I'm allergic to cashews. And I love the things. <3

Of course, the allergic reaction I have to cashews isn't as severe as a -2 DP would indicate.
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post May 28 2009, 07:36 PM
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I could see a Media Junkie having fits (an allergic reaction) to certain news outlets, websites, etc.

Maybe that would be better handled as an Outspoken prejudice...?

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post May 28 2009, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (ravensmuse @ May 28 2009, 02:26 PM) *
I think you're taking the quote out of context.

What Wes is saying (and pardon me if I'm putting words in his mouth) but what he means is that roleplaying games, while having evolved from a miniature war background, have become their own thing and gamers have to stop adopting the "us-vs-them" / "we need to win the game!" mentality.

It's not a backwards slap against people's other hobbies. IIRC, Wes plays Warhammer (or Warmachine) himself.


I vote, doesn't mean that I respect all politicians.

You seem to be operating from the apparent viewpoint that there is a correct way to play a roleplaying game. Now, the individual in question is just as strident as putting forth that he knows the correct to play a RPG. Might I postulate that his way works for him and your way works for you? And that while you obviously both enjoy Shadowrun you enjoy it in different ways.

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post May 28 2009, 10:52 PM
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Heavens knows it's almost impossible to just "browse" that wiki for anything less than several hours in a sitting...

I guess I'm just different - after two minutes I closed it and decided I had no interest in going back to it. Popular culture and I don't really seem too into one another.
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post May 28 2009, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 28 2009, 09:32 PM) *
I'm allergic to cashews. And I love the things. <3

Of course, the allergic reaction I have to cashews isn't as severe as a -2 DP would indicate.

WHY? x.x
Only thing i can actually understand:
I have a friend who is allergic to CATS . . of all things . .
And of course she can't help but love them . . who can?
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post May 28 2009, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 28 2009, 06:04 PM) *
WHY? x.x


Because I don't feel bad eating them.
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post May 28 2009, 11:21 PM
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But do you feel bad, AFTER?
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post May 28 2009, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 28 2009, 07:19 PM) *
Because I don't feel bad eating them.

I feel the same way about cats.

Err, wait, what are we talking about again?
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post May 28 2009, 11:24 PM
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*shin kick*
Hands off the keetums <.<
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post May 28 2009, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE (tsuyoshikentsu @ May 28 2009, 12:35 AM) *
....Annnnnd I suddenly feel really awkward, as I just realized that other people in the group in question read this board.

But at least they agree with me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Haha, isn't it great?

On the subject of cats though, they don't smell very good when you cook em so I tend to do it outside. Or maybe its just all the fat burning from the drop bear last week...
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post May 29 2009, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE (Bob Lord of Evil @ May 28 2009, 03:39 PM) *
I vote, doesn't mean that I respect all politicians.

You seem to be operating from the apparent viewpoint that there is a correct way to play a roleplaying game. Now, the individual in question is just as strident as putting forth that he knows the correct to play a RPG. Might I postulate that his way works for him and your way works for you? And that while you obviously both enjoy Shadowrun you enjoy it in different ways.

Ah ha, so this is the game we're going to go at. No thanks.
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post May 29 2009, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 28 2009, 06:21 PM) *
But do you feel bad, AFTER?


No.

All they do is weaken my muscles a bit for a little while. But I sit in a chair all the time anyway, so I'm not in the best physical condition anyway.
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post May 29 2009, 05:21 AM
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QUOTE (Critias @ May 29 2009, 01:22 AM) *
I feel the same way about cats.

Err, wait, what are we talking about again?

Delicious and moist cats, mon ami. Delicious and moist...
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