why is shadowrun so cool Options

[GreyBrother]

Shadowrun inspiries me. Despite how shitty our own world is, shadowrun reminds me that it could be worse and that there is still some hope. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[The Jake]

But I can. Dunkelzahn's dead. Great dragons are killable, nobody said you had to do it.

Yes but you didn't kill him. Did you?

No. I didn't think so.

- J.

PS: I don't think "death by suicide" counts as 'killable'. Bearing in mind we're talking about a demi-godlike NPC.

[toturi]

Yes but you didn't kill him. Did you?

No. I didn't think so.

- J.

PS: I don't think "death by suicide" counts as 'killable'. Bearing in mind we're talking about a demi-godlike NPC.

As I said:

Great dragons are killable, nobody said you had to do it.

Nobody said you had to be the one that did it, nobody said I had to be the one that did it either. Just that someone had to be able to do it, even if he did the deed himself.

[The Jake]

As I said:

Nobody said you had to be the one that did it, nobody said I had to be the one that did it either. Just that someone had to be able to do it, even if he did the deed himself.

I dispute your interpretation, smart arse.

Let me put this another way -
Could a PC kill one? Unless your GM is functionally retarded, the answer is no.

- J.

[Medicineman]

"If it's got stats ,it can be killed !"
Dragons and Grand Dragons have been killed before in SR(Nachtmeister in Frankfurt,another Psychotic one in the Sox by Met 2000)and they can be killed,even by Player Chars! Its an Epic Task and extremely difficult(none of my Chars would volunteer for such a Run,not even for a Million ¥) but feasable none the less !

HougH!
Medicineman

[Dikotana]

It's what I wish my life was.

Poor, nasty, brutish, and short?

Future tech is cool, but I'd prefer my future to be less dystopian. My internal jury is still out on elves and CEOs that can eat you in one bite.

[cyronc]

Poor, nasty, brutish, and short?

Future tech is cool, but I'd prefer my future to be less dystopian. My internal jury is still out on elves and CEOs that can eat you in one bite.

There is a reason to wanting life to be that way: In shadowrun there is no question about things being bad..
everyone knows the worlds situation is bad in the 6th world. So why would one WANT to live there? Because it would justify going against the powers-that-be and there would be much less hesitation of doing so and much more understanding, thus a dystopia enables somebody, who has some anarchic and/or anarchistic/libertarian ideals of what life should be like, to free himself from the fear of loss he experiences IRL(loss of social standard/property, fear of retribution by state), because in an EXPLICICT DYSTOPIA, there is nothing more to loose, and thus you are much more motivated to go for it...

just my 2 nuyen

[ravensmuse]

Because I can do these campaigns:

+ A group of "freaks" discovering a sleeping dragon in Hawaii and having to stop elves from killing it
+ Devil Wears Prada meets The Force Unleashed
+ Harry Potter in Boston
+ Post-apocalyptic Chicago
+ Is Lady Gaga really Christina Aguilera's attempt at punking everyone?

With a completely straight face. Well, not completely, I mean, look at that list.

Also, shooting people in the face for money.

[The Jake]

"If it's got stats ,it can be killed !"
Dragons and Grand Dragons have been killed before in SR(Nachtmeister in Frankfurt,another Psychotic one in the Sox by Met 2000)and they can be killed,even by Player Chars! Its an Epic Task and extremely difficult(none of my Chars would volunteer for such a Run,not even for a Million �) but feasable none the less !

HougH!
Medicineman

I've been running or playing in SR since launch way back in 1989. And in that time I've had high powered games.
The average mage slinging initiate grade of 4. Maximum 6.
We've had characters become oyabun of a Yakuza clan and major shareholders of MCT.
I've seen players borderlining cyberzombie status before 'Cybertechnology' was released.
I've seen players unlock the immortality gene in their elven characters to become ageless.
Heck, I even once played in a one off session with a guest GM where he had opened up time travel (farcical - I know. It was a one off).

But in all that time, not ONCE has ANYONE ever killed a Great Dragon. Ever.

I submit to you that if any PC has killed a Great Dragon then you (or your GM more specifically) fail(s) at Shadowrun. Epic fail.

- J.

[Amazeroth]

I've been running or playing in SR since [...] not ONCE has ANYONE ever killed a Great Dragon. Ever.

I submit to you that if any PC has killed a Great Dragon then you (or your GM more specifically) fail(s) at Shadowrun. Epic fail.

- J.

Well, bla bla, that's just your opinion. Please stick to the topic.

I really, really, really love the core rules (especially the magic) in shadowrun. And I would LOVE to see those rules in a pure fantasy setting.

[Stahlseele]

Time Travel?
Go find the Great ones while they are still sleeping.
Take a week off. Use that week to kill one of them.

Also, don't tell ANYONE they fail at playing Shadowrun for WHATEVER reason.

[The Jake]

Time Travel?
Go find the Great ones while they are still sleeping.
Take a week off. Use that week to kill one of them.

Also, don't tell ANYONE they fail at playing Shadowrun for WHATEVER reason.

I didn't run the time travel one, I'll be honest there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But sorry, killing Great Dragons isn't allowed. Sorry. I read it somewhere.

- J.

[Stahlseele]

Psh, if they can pull it off, i say let them.
Especially, since it's going to come back and bite them in the nads.

[toturi]

I dispute your interpretation, smart arse.

Let me put this another way -
Could a PC kill one? Unless your GM is functionally retarded, the answer is no.

- J.

Could a PC kill one? Unless your GM is functionally anal, the answer is yes.

[paws2sky]

Note to self: Consider buying some AR sculpting software that blanks out sasquatch stand-up comedians before next meet with Mr. J...

You realize, of course, that you're just giving me ideas.

-paws

[Daishi]

But sorry, killing Great Dragons isn't allowed. Sorry. I read it somewhere.

That really depends on what kind of campaign the GM and the players want to have, now doesn't it? You "can't" stick Ares in a box, but that still sounds like one of the more amusing campaign ideas to me.

[toturi]

I submit to you that if any PC has killed a Great Dragon then you (or your GM more specifically) fail(s) at Shadowrun. Epic fail.

- J.

I submit instead that if a PC has killed a Great Dragon then you and your GM win at Shadowrun. Epic Win. And any GM who has had to fudge so that a GD lives, that's the Epic Fail.

[Rayzorblades]

Nah it wasn't for any sociological reasons that I said I wished it was how my life was, I have a pretty good one, I'm not posting this from the slums or anything. It was solely for the tech/magic.

[tarbrush]

+ Devil Wears Prada meets The Force Unleashed

Care to elaborate? This sounds, um. Well maybe awesome, maybe insane.

[Stahlseele]

Why should any of those be mutually exclusive? O.o

[ravensmuse]

Care to elaborate? This sounds, um. Well maybe awesome, maybe insane.

All right.

Amanda Mayweather is the Boss From Hell and the head editor for fashion magazine En Vogue, headquartered in Boston. She is cruel, malicious, and utterly devoted to staying on top of everyone else. The only person higher than her is the actual owner of the magazine empire, Floyd Unether, whom she hates with an absolute passion.

She also tends to go through personal assistants like tissue paper during a cold.

Using this fact and some contacts, she starts combing the underworld for someone with the skills compatible to her needs - smart, talented, capable, beautiful. Someone with an edge, like a technomancer or an adept or someone with no obvious malicious cyberware to tip someone off.

The PC (as this is supposed to be a one on one campaign with my girlfriend) is then hired by a Johnson on a fake run, where she'll run into Mayweather (as the real Johnson) and offer her a very lucrative contract. The job? Full time personal assistant with "room to grow", using her talents gained in the shadows to topple Untether's magazine empire while setting herself up as his successor. She'll have access to unlimited funds and equipment but must be cautious to play the part of the dutiful assistant.

Expand from there.

[Bob Lord of Evil]

For me Shadowrun has fundamentally altered how I look at games and game design. DnD was all about the mechanics it didn't start out with a developed setting it didn't need one. Shadowrun flipped that concept on it's head, here you had a game which was ALL about the setting. The setting in Shadowrun is so bloody cool that the mechanics have always had a tough time keeping up.

If you look at Shadowrun (at least 3rd edition) you had the following systems contained within it...
Matrix
Real World Combat
Magic
Rigging

Each of which is a different game system, there is no one single mechanic that bridges ALL four systems. Yet in spite of that 3rd edition sold hundreds of thousands of copies! People played it, devoted websites to it, and talked about it...we still are! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)

[Stiletto]

Shadowrun is awesome because it lets me be an elf with an unbelievably amazing cyber arm that is capable of doing more damage to a persons face then if they got hit by a car.

[WyldKnight]

I hacked a humanis members cyber eyes and forced him to watch 12 straight hours of a human chick banging a troll. Sometimes death is to good for a person and you need to get creative. Situations like these are what made me love the setting and the sick people within.

[BullZeye]

Never ending possibilities and the 3 worlds to consider at all times (flesh, matrix, astral). Guns and magic doesn't hurt, either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And the GM-friendly predetermined group concept that can also be skipped, but it's there.