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Ain Soph Aur ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 ![]() |
I think what would be a better idea is to have one secret goal for each archetype in the game and if a player hits that goal then give them a bonus karma point. Similar to the NYC SR Missions, actually. You get secret objectives based on your faction alignment, and if you succeed, you get a little reward. |
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Cybernetic Blood Mage ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 ![]() |
Aye, I woudl support something like that, especially if the little "bonus misssions" sometimes ran counter to each other or maybe even the run as a whole.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Wa, USA Member No.: 1,139 ![]() |
How about an achievement for NOT killing anyone.
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Cybernetic Blood Mage ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 ![]() |
Nahm life is cheap Chummer, and going out of your way not to kill anyone should only earn you the honor of being wormfood.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: 5-May 09 From: California Member No.: 17,140 ![]() |
Actually me and my friends used something similar to this in a Pathfinder DnD game and it worked out great. I never gave them the list but I did inform them of it. The achievements were made so I could easily remember them and pass out extra experience/awards when they completed one. NOTE This DnD game was more warcraft like as in you saw dwarves with fire arms and goblins with air ships which is why there are explosives related achievements. A few we used were
Fast Ball Special: Throw one of your team mates at an enemy and either deal damage with your living projectile or have the person harm the target mid flight (Completed by my cousin 4 sessions in when his half orc fighter punted our gnome rogue over a charging force of skeleton warriors to kill the wizard controlling them. The gnome literally landed right on target plunging the daggers straight into the wizards face.) Wait...wheres Bob?: Take out (either through death or incapacitation) at least 4 enemies without any of the others knowing. (Completed ironically by our wizard instead of our rogue by using a sound manipulation spell so they wouldn't notice the kaboom of his fireball.) Pow! Right in the Kisser!: Take out (either through death or incapacitation) an armored opponent with your bare hands. (Done by our cleric when he epically took down a lich by himself as the rest of the party had already been downed. He got quite an extra chunk of experience because not only did he do it basically on his own, he kept the rest of the party alive while doing it. He brought the lich to his knees then to emphasize his awesome backhanded him for the killing blow. Everyone then took turns pissing in his phylactery before destroying it.) Humilation Thy Name is Defeat: Add insult to injury in a most comedic manner after beating your opponenet *GMs Discretion* (End of example above) You Shall Not Pass!: Die while protecting your team mates. (Since in DnD you can be revived and in Shadowrun your "death" could be a mistake reversed with burnt edge this one can be viable. Happened when our troll paladin cut the ropes of the bridge the team ran across because the enemy would have caught up to them either way because they were to fast. He then removed the focus crystal from his armor, homebrew rule that all enchanted items have something about the that keeps the magic contained, and turned himself into a bomb. 10 turn cycles later after holding 10 + enemies and downing 6 of them the armor exploded bringing down the cave. Was later brought back by the BBEG as a Revenant (like a death knight but even worse) but was reformed by the party cleric and in doing so became a Paragon (good version of Revenants). So...who brought the Marshmellows?: Kill an opponent with an ordinary open flame (cannot be magical or brought on by ammunition) (Completed when our dwarf spilled his drink over a rail on an enemies head and then the ranger grabbed a torch and lit him up with it. As you can see most of these are combat oriented but they were the first ones completed. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 30-June 09 Member No.: 17,337 ![]() |
Of course the best achievements are the ones that end in "accidentally".
Riffing on nezumi Tornadoes Suck: 20 deaths by falling objects accidentally Stupid Pot Holes: Longest fall by a PC accidentally I Guess That's A Load Bearing Wall: Collateral damage from a single event in excess of $5,000,000 accidentally Asleep At The Wheel Of A T-Bird: Survive (i.e. no death, no arrest) in a police chase for twenty minutes from when the first police vehicle locks onto yours accidentally Pornomancers Are People Too: Seduce 5 individuals with significant security responsibilities related to your run(s) accidentally Malls Are Allergic To Fire: Set 50 people on fire accidentally I Knew I Forgot Something This Morning: Survive an entire non-matrix, non-astral, non-rigging run wearing only a single article of clothing, smaller than a jacket. accidentally |
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 ![]() |
That is indeed a significant improvement!
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,002 Joined: 22-April 06 From: Canada Member No.: 8,494 ![]() |
Here would be my list of secret objectives:
Street Sam: Cover up any necessary/unavoidable kills or damage in such a way that evidence of you and your group are not discovered until after the run is over (if ever). Mage: Do what is needed to remove any trace of you and your group magically at the site of the run (this would include eliminating all magical threats, magical tracking (spirits/spotters/etc), and cleansing an area if needed). Hacker/Drone Rigger: Steal all possible pay-data and subvert the target security system in such a way that you and your group are not discovered until after the run is over (if ever). Vehicle Rigger: Do what is needed to deploy and extract the team while leaving no way to trace you and your group. Group: Make it through an entire run without triggering a single alarm (magical, technical, or personnel). Group: Eliminate any evidence of your involvement in the run (bonus if you can get someone else blamed). Shadowrunners are professional criminals, which means that they get jobs based on how undetectable they are. There use to be rules in SR3 for notoriety and reputation. Your notoriety was how well know to the police, and general public you were. The higher your notoriety the harder it was for you to go in public without getting noticed and possibly arrested. Your reputation was your track record on how many completed missions you had. A higher reputation meant you were more likely to get more jobs and better paying jobs. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 ![]() |
I'll play along. Thanks to Acheivement Hunter, I can understand the concept behind this thread.
I Sveah I Vill Naht Keel Ehnivon: Willingly incapacitated all opponents with non-lethal gunfire. Barneki? Barneki? He Owes me Money!: Hiding Out In A Unoccupied House While The Real Owners Are Away. No, THIS one goes here, THAT one goes there!: Helping a Teammate with the correct repairs during a firefight. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 ![]() |
I'm John McLane: Spend the whole run without any shoes.
Didn't learn his lesson: Didn't watch his back, ran out of ammo and cut a deal with a dragon in the same run. Mushroom Addict: Killed an enemy by jumping on him |
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Deus Absconditus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 ![]() |
I think anyone that is upset by this is taking their fun a Little Too Seriously. God forbid what you'd think if I told you about the run where the PCs smuggled baskets of kittens for a christmas delivery.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Wa, USA Member No.: 1,139 ![]() |
Nahm life is cheap Chummer, and going out of your way not to kill anyone should only earn you the honor of being wormfood. You also earn the honor of not pissing off someone because the security guard was their cousin. Body counts are bad news for people trying to be secretive. Everyone is related to someone. |
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Cybernetic Blood Mage ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 ![]() |
Aye, and in the Sixth World that plus a couple of nuyen will buy you a small soykaf at your local Stuffer Shack.
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 2,283 Joined: 12-October 07 Member No.: 13,662 ![]() |
As presented... the idea seems like a loser... especially the bits about... slay as many people as possible. There's a time and a place to leave no witnesses... but it's not all the time.
I'd think that it'd be far better to use 'achievements' as sort of a role playing guide and reward system. This is this characters background, this is what he's done, this is where he thinks he's going. Draw up a short list of stuff and share it with the character, if you can accomplish this, here's a little reward for advancing the character in-character. You might even occassionally add, remove, or modify one as appropriate. And this is where it can get good... the goals you give individual players don't necessarily need to work together and can even be in conflict. You could even get some elements of "Paranoia" going. That could be good for getting a little bit of in party tension. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 17-April 07 Member No.: 11,473 ![]() |
While I would never really use the idea in a game I run as any tangeable reward, the base concept amuses me greatly, so for your amusement I present the folowing:
HAX!: turn a piece of enemy cyberware against him through hacking. Dr0wnd: Hijack a hostile drone through hacking. Fool Me Once...: Catch a double cross from Mr. Johnson before it happens and foil it. That's Never Happened Before: Have the initial plan you devise for a run go off flawlessly as planned without any hitches or on the fly adjustments for unaccounted for variables. It's Coming Right For Us!: Defeat all hostile paracritters involved in the run. That Damn Good: Gain critical success on all skill checks for the run. Passing Shadow in the Night: Perfectly stealth a run that involves any degree of breaking and entering. It Was the One Armed Man: Successfully pin the blame of a run your team performed on some other shadowrunner team. Public Enemy: Gain 5 points notoriety. Straight Arrow: Earn 100 Karma without gaining a single point of Notoriety. Luck has Nothing to do With it: Successfully complete a run without using a single point of edge. Beginner's Luck: Critically succeed a longshot test. Lazarus: Be resuscitated. Faust: Enter into a pact with a free spirit. *TCHINGTCHING*: Defeat an uninjured enemy in a single stroke of a katana. The One: Get in a massive gunfight in the run and come out of it uninjured defeating all opposition, then successfully hack the enemy's node and steal their paydata and crash their node. Stroke Fishing: Kill someone with manabolt or manaball cast through a dangling fiberoptic feed, such as the feed from magesight goggles. The Internet is for Porn: Infect a commlink with the Jingle virus (unwired page 122). Goku: Deliver a come from behind victory via grossly overchanneled spells. Mana Menace: Successfully overcome a foe through astral combat. Newb: Perform a matrix run using a stock commlink and operating system. Twink: Get the Gm to enforce the dicecap rule on you. BOOM headshot: Defeat an uninjured foe with a single gunshot that inflicts 4 more boxes of damage then nessecary. Agent Smith: Use more then 5 agents simultaneously. OMGWTFBBQ: Successfully sneak either a heavy machine gun, grenade launcher, assault cannon, rocket launcher, missile launcher or flame thrower into the opposition's territory undetected. And then use the weapon in question to deliver a surprise attack. Dude, Where's My Car?: Successfully recover a vehicle your runner has lost. Inconcieveable!: Trick someone into drinking poison. My Name is Indigo Matoya...: Avenge the death of a loved one. Dukes of Hazard: Jump off of a ramp during a car chase. Do I Want to Know Where You Were Hiding That?: Successfully conceal a piece of equipment with a concealability modifier of +6 or higher against someone actively patting you down and searching for contraband. If anything you can annoy your GM by showing up to the game with all these various achievements on a checklist and silently check them off as you accomplish them. I'm sure the whole table will love you. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Kansas Member No.: 8,304 ![]() |
While I would never really use the idea in a game I run as any tangeable reward, the base concept amuses me greatly, so for your amusement I present the folowing: HAX!: turn a piece of enemy cyberware against him through hacking. Dr0wnd: Hijack a hostile drone through hacking. Fool Me Once...: Catch a double cross from Mr. Johnson before it happens and foil it. That's Never Happened Before: Have the initial plan you devise for a run go off flawlessly as planned without any hitches or on the fly adjustments for unaccounted for variables. It's Coming Right For Us!: Defeat all hostile paracritters involved in the run. That Damn Good: Gain critical success on all skill checks for the run. Passing Shadow in the Night: Perfectly stealth a run that involves any degree of breaking and entering. It Was the One Armed Man: Successfully pin the blame of a run your team performed on some other shadowrunner team. Public Enemy: Gain 5 points notoriety. Straight Arrow: Earn 100 Karma without gaining a single point of Notoriety. Luck has Nothing to do With it: Successfully complete a run without using a single point of edge. Beginner's Luck: Critically succeed a longshot test. Lazarus: Be resuscitated. Faust: Enter into a pact with a free spirit. *TCHINGTCHING*: Defeat an uninjured enemy in a single stroke of a katana. The One: Get in a massive gunfight in the run and come out of it uninjured defeating all opposition, then successfully hack the enemy's node and steal their paydata and crash their node. Stroke Fishing: Kill someone with manabolt or manaball cast through a dangling fiberoptic feed, such as the feed from magesight goggles. The Internet is for Porn: Infect a commlink with the Jingle virus (unwired page 122). Goku: Deliver a come from behind victory via grossly overchanneled spells. Mana Menace: Successfully overcome a foe through astral combat. Newb: Perform a matrix run using a stock commlink and operating system. Twink: Get the Gm to enforce the dicecap rule on you. BOOM headshot: Defeat an uninjured foe with a single gunshot that inflicts 4 more boxes of damage then nessecary. Agent Smith: Use more then 5 agents simultaneously. OMGWTFBBQ: Successfully sneak either a heavy machine gun, grenade launcher, assault cannon, rocket launcher, missile launcher or flame thrower into the opposition's territory undetected. And then use the weapon in question to deliver a surprise attack. Dude, Where's My Car?: Successfully recover a vehicle your runner has lost. Inconcieveable!: Trick someone into drinking poison. My Name is Indigo Matoya...: Avenge the death of a loved one. Dukes of Hazard: Jump off of a ramp during a car chase. Do I Want to Know Where You Were Hiding That?: Get successfully conceal a piece of equipment with a concealability modifier of +6 or higher against someone actively patting you down and searching for contraband. If anything you can annoy your GM by showing up to the game with all these various achievements on a checklist and silently check them off as you accomplish them. I'm sure the whole table will love you. but I love thoses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
OK, now those are funny ^^
And yes, annoying the GM is allways a good thing for the rest of the Group too ^^ |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 17-April 07 Member No.: 11,473 ![]() |
but I love thoses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks omae. For extra bonus happy fun, get a bunch of these in the shape of a bingo sheet and cross them off as you see them. When you get a full row shout bingo. For even more fun don't explain what you are doing and smile at the perplexed looks your gather at the table. Here's a few extra: Hollywood Car Chase: Drive through a fruit stand, a pane of glass, and a pile of crates all during the same car chase. SPOOOOOON!: Run into an gunfight using nothing but unarmed combat, take hits, but suffer no damage and win the fight. Big Brother Is Watching You: Blackmail someone using footage you acquired from hacking the sensors of their household applainces. That's Totally a Guy: Seduce someone of the same gender as you over the matrix by posing as someone of the opposite gender. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 3-April 02 Member No.: 2,507 ![]() |
After reading everyone's thoughts, suggestions and ideas I think I am going to throw out my initial idea and go for a small, 'secret' list of achievements for each character/archetype and have a truly bizarre list (kudos to ccelizic) for additional fun and frivolity.
Appreciate all the posts. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 17-April 07 Member No.: 11,473 ![]() |
Actually a secret list would be the best way to do it if you were in fact going to do this in any way shape or form. That way you keep the players from actually trying bizarre stunts in game. However I would not award karma, I would award booby prizes. Such as buttons, or shiny stickers, or a baseball cap or maybe a strangely shaped potato chip or the honor of making a drink run for the rest of us. By not attatching any mechanical value to the achievements you make it a purely humor thing which might work for some game groups.
I Use it to Hunt: Get caught by the police with a forbidden firearm. Ninja: Assault a guard who is unaware of you with melee combat and defeat him before he can raise alarm. She Told Me She Was Human: Get it on with a shapeshifter. Wyrm Food: Irritate a dragon through your actions. Recluse: Complete all your duties for the run using drones, the matrix, or both all without leaving the safety of your home. Dog Whisperer: Render a hostile canine docile through non-violent methods. Sunday Driver: Kill someone by running them over. Mad Max: Take part in a high speed road vehicle combat involving at least 5 vehicles. Shoop da Whoop: Take out someone using the Ares Heavy MP Laser. Made in Mexico: Complete a run by Aztechnology. God of War: Complete a run for Ares Macrotechnology. Dealt With a Dragon: Complete a run for Saeder Krupp. Belmont: Kill a HMHVV infected invidual using a whip type weapon. Bond: Get someone to change alliegance through the use of seduction. Bloodied: Take out a blood magician. Decontaminator: Take out a toxic shaman. Orkin Man: Take out an insect shaman. Obviously Fake: Get THOSE implants. You know, the ones from Augmentation page 35 table, "Cosmetic Cyberware Implants." No, not the horns fangs or fiberoptic hair. Yes, those ones. No, I don't care if you mismatch type to gender its your body, but don't be surprised when every astrally percieving being gives you "The look". Better Sex-Life Through Technology: Successfully pick up a member of the appropriate gender for your character by using the implants from "Obviously Fake" as a part of your sales pitch. Confusing Bedroom Moments: Discover the person from Better Sex-Life Through Technology has non-standard equipment installed. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh, He Said Johnson: Get Mr. Johnson to say four things that would sound wrong out of context in a single meet up. Sticking it to the Man: Rip off a corporate target for more then the run objectives entail. Mafia Politics: Accept an offer from a Mafia member that results in you betraying your Johnson (must be a mafia Johnson). You're Going to Need a Bigger Boat: Defeat an aquatic foe that's larger then your boat. Trinity: Pilot a vehicle you've never touched before through the use of skillwires. Not Worth the Bounty: Successfully kill off a team that is after you due to a bounty on your head. Dunklezahn's Will: Recieve something from the Draco Foundation on behalf of any item on Dunklezahn's Will, the most likely means of doing so are the standing bounties on blood magi and toxic shamans. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 30-June 09 Member No.: 17,337 ![]() |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 17-April 07 Member No.: 11,473 ![]() |
Well at the risk of sounding silly be arguing something silly I'd just say I'd call it a whip type weapon. If anything yo ucan make the player wear that silly leather armor costume while doing so!
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 ![]() |
I've never needed anything more: Perform all your gun-related activities successfully without having to go any higher in calibre during the mission.
Royal With Cheese: Knowing what your favorite fast-food item is called by in at least three different countries. They call me Straight-Razor: A new Street Samurai player completes his first mission successfully without getting killed, wounded AND following the rules. Local Boys Repel Capitalist Horde: Successfully demolish the same single-level dwelling with your vehicle at least TWICE. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 10-May 09 Member No.: 17,158 ![]() |
Steve Austin: End up needing to replace both legs, one arm, one eye, and one ear as a result of a single incident.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 65 Joined: 3-April 02 Member No.: 2,507 ![]() |
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