Running Wild, First Impressions Options

[Tiger Eyes]

So, a question. How does one go about purchasing a Bastet at Character Generation?

Step 1: Research your GM's weakness. Often these may revolve around food, for example, home-made toffee.

Step 2: Make a large batch of toffee.

Step 3: Hand GM toffee. Wait 15 minutes, until toffee-induced euphoria sets in.

Step 4: Hand GM character sheet for approval and hope toffee-induced haze prevents him from seeing the Bastet.

As a more serious answer, there are no rules (or prices) for purchasing any technocritters at this time, as fits their rarity. If you want one, it's something best discussed with your GM.

[Fuchs]

It's a disease, similar to the toxin rules but not quite. Basically 1 day (10) means you make one test ever 24 hours, ten tests in total (originally was gonna be 1 week (12) to correspond with the original 90 days thing, but that was vetoed as too long; chalk it up to a sudden increase in virulence). If they fail a test, they lose 0.1 Essence. They lose 1.0 Essence that way, they become a ghoul.

Vector: Contact
Speed: 1 day (10)
Penetration: –6
Power: 8
Nature: Retroviral

To resist it one would need 8 hits each test. Meaning 24 dice. After the -6 to any protection rating.

I can't really see why anyone would go near a ghoul. But then, I am playing in my little world, where things are supposed to make sense.

[Fuchs]

On a separate issue, I would have preferred to see it take a few months rather than 10 days. The latter is a bit too Dr. Who. And if you're going for the horror angle, you can do a lot more with a slow, doomed transformation than you can with next week you die. It gives you time to hunt down that last enemy or pull off a final big run to make sure your daughter is set up, before you blow your brains out.

But ghouls are people too, even if their mere touch transforms you into a cannibal. Somehow, people are not afraid of them anymore. Only the big bad humanis are not treating them like people, any good folks like ghouls!

[hobgoblin]

ghouls, the hiv infected of SR...

[Fuchs]

ghouls, the hiv infected of SR...

That's a slap in the face of any HIV infected, Hobgoblin.

Unlike ghouls HIV infected can touch you (and do a lot of other things, especially with protection) without infecting you. And our meds work in halting most infections.

[Bull]

Just a quick note kids, lets not derail this thread with heated debates over single topics. Lets keep this thread for general Running Wild discussion. If you want to debate the merits (or lack thereof) of HMHVV, Ghouls, or whatever else, please open up a specific thread for that.

Thanks

Bull

[Ancient History]

And they have to resist 8DV with just Body dice for each test?

No, there's no damage. You're just reducing the power - you fail, Essence loss.

The -6 means that no medkit with anti-viral drugs, etc. is going to make much / any difference, correct?

No anti-HMHVV antivirals work anyway, so the -6 on the penetration just applies against protective gear.

Bar the burning of Edge or one super-lucky troll, that means you become a ghoul. Am I missing anything?

Cure Disease still works, and a Dwarf's innate resistance, and the adept Natural Immunity power, , as does any sort of drug or 'ware that boosts Body directly. You have to fail ten tests and lose 1.0 Essence to become a ghoul - so one brush with infection need not be immediately character-ending.

This is generally why one wants to shoot ghouls /from a distance/. With fire. So that the smoke from the burning bodies goes downwind. Preferably in the direction of unnecessary people.

[Zen Shooter01]

OK, I'm liking the book, but including the Grim Reaper is a little much. RW 179.

[CodeBreaker]

OK, I'm liking the book, but including the Grim Reaper is a little much. RW 179.

Must.Resist.Making a Ghost Busters Shadowrun group.

[Bull]

Must.Resist.Making a Ghost Busters Shadowrun group.

Don't resist. Come GM it for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Heath Robinson]

As a more serious answer, there are no rules (or prices) for purchasing any technocritters at this time, as fits their rarity. If you want one, it's something best discussed with your GM.

I presume the same goes for having a friendly Kitteh. Damn, I wanted to annoy my future teams!

[Regiment]

Edit III: It is dark, a grue may eat you.

It is very dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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[hobgoblin]

That's a slap in the face of any HIV infected, Hobgoblin.

Unlike ghouls HIV infected can touch you (and do a lot of other things, especially with protection) without infecting you. And our meds work in halting most infections.

ok, so maybe leper would be more correct, from back when they had no clue what so ever how it was transmitted...

thing is that public perception of something, and the medical perception can vary wildly, for any number of reasons...

sure, the ghoul is a person, but at the same time a walking infection. while i may not be socially acceptable to shoot on sight, they will probably be shunned and isolated, lone star calling medical to move them to special places when reported outside of z-zones and so on...

[Rotbart van Dain...]

I presume the same goes for having a friendly Kitteh. Damn, I wanted to annoy my future teams!

Actually, I toyed with the idea of an uplifted, technomancer raven a few months back. Sadly, the technocritter rules don't support characters.

Seeing as ghouls have been presented as actual people rather than just Karma-on-the-hoof since second edition,[...]

Yes, that's my point. In SR2 and SR3, KHMHVV was the fate of the poor and unfortunate - it was less dangerous than rabies. Those were the people you could ignore, sympathize with or hunt down.
In SR4, those aren't people anymore, but a wildfire waiting to happen, requiring massive HAZMAT logistics even to combat - and that can't be ignored.

Cure Disease still works, and a Dwarf's innate resistance, and the adept Natural Immunity power, , as does any sort of drug or 'ware that boosts Body directly.

As does something that isn't neither an antiviral or inocculation, nor gives bonus dice that could be eaten be penetration.

[CodeBreaker]

*gets his shotgun*

Git out 'ma thread, ya Ghoulie lovin' bastards!

*fires warning shots*

[Knight Saber]

How much does the book have in the way of mundane creature stats? It's hard for mages to use the Shapechange and (Critter) Form spells when the core book has just four animals in it.

[knasser]

How much does the book have in the way of mundane creature stats? It's hard for mages to use the Shapechange and (Critter) Form spells when the core book has just four animals in it.

It has more mundane critters than you could ever use.

What surprised me was the information on dragons and spirits that I wasn't expecting. In fact, there are many things hidden away in there. It wasn't until the third skimming that I noticed there were GHOSTS in the book.

And warforms. They take up about a page and you could easily miss them just skimming through, but when you read what they can do... :o

[CodeBreaker]

How much does the book have in the way of mundane creature stats? It's hard for mages to use the Shapechange and (Critter) Form spells when the core book has just four animals in it.

Just a second, counting up all the different stat boxes.

EDIT: OK! I count 47 different Mundane Stat Boxes from the Mundane Chapter. Now, each of the Stat Boxes has examples for different versions of that animal. So thats probably about 100 different Stat Boxes for Mundane Animals.

[Heath Robinson]

How much does the book have in the way of mundane creature stats? It's hard for mages to use the Shapechange and (Critter) Form spells when the core book has just four animals in it.

There are 11 pages of just stats to cover practically every kind of animal you might need. They're done in the same manner as the Arsenal vehicles - a profile named for a particular species with a list of animals that are similar enough to share the stats.

[knasser]

No, there's no damage. You're just reducing the power - you fail, Essence loss.


No anti-HMHVV antivirals work anyway, so the -6 on the penetration just applies against protective gear.


Cure Disease still works, and a Dwarf's innate resistance, and the adept Natural Immunity power, , as does any sort of drug or 'ware that boosts Body directly. You have to fail ten tests and lose 1.0 Essence to become a ghoul - so one brush with infection need not be immediately character-ending.

This is generally why one wants to shoot ghouls /from a distance/. With fire. So that the smoke from the burning bodies goes downwind. Preferably in the direction of unnecessary people.

In response to Bull's request for not having too much topic drift, I've replied to you over in a more appropriate thread here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

K.

[Shinobi Killfist]

What kind of armor/body does the Juggernaut have??

In 1e it was bad assed and dropped deadly damage to no damage automatically. It didn't have to roll unless you staged past deadly. 2e it was kind of wussy.

[CodeBreaker]

What kind of armor/body does the Juggernaut have??

In 1e it was bad assed and dropped deadly damage to no damage automatically. It didn't have to roll unless you staged past deadly. 2e it was kind of wussy.

Body 17
Strength 42
12 Hardened Armour

[CodeBreaker]

One thing about the Juggernaught.

Identification: The juggernaut is an unstoppable force that
strongly resembles a dramatically enlarged specimen of its
mundane relative, the common armadillo (Dasypus praegrandis).

Isn't the common (North American i.e 9 Banded) Armadillo Dasypus novemcinctus, and the Juggernaught itself Praegrandis? Yes, thats right, I am questioning your use of Latin! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Shinobi Killfist]

Body 17
Strength 42
12 Hardened Armour

Wow weaksauce.

I can make an orc who rolls more dice to resist damage than that. And hardened armor 12 only really bounces small arms. It used to be city master+ level of defense, now its like a 4 door car.

[CodeBreaker]

Horizon Media Clip ::search ::
Extinct Species profiles from
2000–Present
• African Gorilla
• Black-Footed Ferret
• Black Rhinoceros
• California Condor
• Caspian Seal
• Cuban Crocodile
• European Eel
• Fishing Cat
• Gray Bat
• Grevy’s Zebra
• Honey Bee (Africanized, Dwarf, Giant)
• Iberian Lynx
• Nine-Spotted Ladybug
• North American Panther
• Parachute Tarantula
• Polar Bear*
• Rafflesia Magnifica
• Slender-Billed Vulture
• Striped Possum
• Sumatran Tiger
• Tasmanian Devil
• Tortoise (Ploughshare, Radiated)

Emphasis. *ahem* NOOOOOoooOOoOOOoo! Not the Striped Possum! You couldn't of had some annoying animals killed off, like Giant Spiders that Eat Your Face. No, had to be the Possum.