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post Jan 24 2004, 11:35 PM
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And as we know from the invisibility spell, the mana version of this spell works on cyber eyes (even though they are technically cameras) because the user pays essence (effectively making the cyberware part of the astral presence.


I thought that the mana version works only in the mind of the viewers, and that's why cybereyes can't detect the character hiden by it.
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post Jan 24 2004, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (Zimbabwean Aardvark @ Jan 24 2004, 01:44 AM)
I would allow something like bone lacing to be the focus in my campain, because you would have to reduce your magic rating to gain those benefits.

This sounds reasonable, and I think one of my characters wants to do it. Here is the question:

When someone targets an attack at the player, is there damage resistance equal to their body +2 for titanium bone lacing

or is it

their body +2 for titanium bone lacing, + the force of the spirit.

It seems like the power of the spirit would factor in somewhat, but all attacks dont target the bones, and the bones are technically the only place the spirit would help in damage resistance.

Maybe I should comprimise and use

Their body +2 for tit bone lace, + 1/2 the spirits force

to represent the chance that bones would be affected. What are your thoughts?

Maybe it would add 1/2 of all its physical atributes to the character. This would make up for the severe restrictions of having your spirit confined to your body.

Maybe a bit more than make up for those restictions...
probably not a good idea. :sleepy:
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post Jan 25 2004, 06:04 AM
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I believe that a spirit that is possessing does not get Immunity to Normal Weapons. That comes from using the Materialization Power (SR3 p. 188 and 264), not the Possession Power (MitS p. 99).

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post Jan 25 2004, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (Zimbabwean Aardvark)
I was just wondering, if you're standing behind a being that has immunity to normal weapons, and the being gets shot at, does your character take damage?

There isn't any SR canon mechanic for taking damage from stray bullets, is there? (Apart from the shot rules and suppressive fire, of course.) So the "canon" answer would be no, s/he doesn't take damage.

Back to making sense: Depends on the being, don't it? If this is an Awakened elephant with massive bone plating and Immunity to Normal Weapons, sitting down, and someone is blasting at it with a pistol, then hell no s/he wouldn't take damage. If the being is a materialized air or fire elemental, then the bullets will not be slowed down at all and will not significantly change paths either, and there certainly is the possibility that the character gets hit.

Anything in between (e.g. water elementals, vampires, etc) are trickier. For vampires, I'd treat it physics-wise like a slab of flesh slightly harder than a human, so a single HMG-sized round would go right through but pistols might not. I have no idea what I'd do with a water elemental, but I'd probably just treat it like water (expanding and fragmenting bullets wouldn't pose a serious threat to someone behind the materialized elemental, but intact FMJ and AP rounds might well).

The answer depends on what you would do if someone is hiding behind a barrier (a brick or wooden wall, for example) that someone is trying to blow open with a firearm. But generally speaking I don't think the Immunity to Normal Weapons "hardens" the being in any way, and a materialized Fire Elemental is no more solid than actual fire.
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I believe that a spirit that is possessing does not get Immunity to Normal Weapons. That comes from using the Materialization Power (SR3 p. 188 and 264), not the Possession Power (MitS p. 99).


It does if it's a great form spirit, at least according to the Channeling metamagic.
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