Tactical Computer Senses, The Sense Shuffle Options

[Lilt]

Under the description of the Tactical Computer on P22 of M&M, it says that the 5 basic senses of normal sight, hearing, taste, touch, and smell are automatically hooked-up to the Tac Comp. The problem with this statement is that we actually have more than 5 senses, we have at-least 10 if you include Balance, Pain, Thirst, Hunger, and Proprioception.

The last in that list, Proprioception, is one few people have heard of. Proprioception is the ability to sense muscle condition and where your limbs are.

My question is essentially: would you allow Balance and Proprioception to be used as sensory inputs to the Tac Comp? They could be highly relevant when applying the Combat Pool bonus.

[Zazen]

I wrap vestibular and kinesthetic senses in with touch.

I don't think hunger, thirst, pain etc. are bonafide senses any more than being tired or knowing that you have blue-balls is a seperate sense.

[RedmondLarry]

Sense of belonging. Sense of fulfillment. Sense of abandonment. Sense of well-being. Sense of direction.

[Moonstone Spider]

Boy: "I see dead people."
Marine: "Cool, another sense to plug into the tac-comp!"
Housekeeper: "I'm sorry, I'll ask that nice Shaman to quit summoning so many ancestor spirits."

[Phaeton]

:rotfl:

[Luke Hardison]

I wouldn't allow those systems naturally, but I would allow for example a balance augmenter to be tied in with them, or a spatial recognizer.

[Phaeton]

[Luke Hardison]

[Diesel]

"Proprioception is the ability to sense muscle condition and where your limbs are."

[RedmondLarry]

Here's the Merriam-Webster definition. (It is more fun if you misread the word "organism", like I did.)

[Phaeton]

Aaaah, thanks, guys!

:rotfl: @ OurTeam

[Lilt]

[Prototype]

All nonsense...

Balance isn't a sense, in that it doesn't allow you to detect external stimuli, it's more like a regulatory mechanism.

Pain, Thirst, Hunger, and Proprioception are all simply sensations that your body makes you feel in response to its condition. They are in no way senses. You cannot tell anything about the outside world through these feelings.

Pain is the only grey area there, but once again, any information pain gives you about your surroundings is actually coming from the sense of touch in most cases.

As for the 5 basic senses... there is little point in linking taste to the tactical computer as it will almost never count in a combat situation (which the sense has to do in order to count towards combat pool) but as it's free, what the hell. I have my doubts about how often smell and touch come into things as well.

The other senses that can be hooked up are many and varied, but generally limited in usefullness. Not that many will count at once. The main ones which usually apply are the visual and auditory ones... hearing amplification, select sound filter, thermographic vision and ultrasound are almost always handy unless neutralised by appropriate technology.

Low light vision is something which only really allows you to apply sight in darkness, I wouldn't count it as a totally separate sense.

Well, that's my 2 :nuyen:

[Zazen]

[zephir]

As a physics student, I must *absolutely* tell you that gravity doesn't exist, what you detect is the earth accelerating you up, away from free fall. ;)

[The White Dwarf]

As I went over in another thread, theres no need to seach for crazy senses, its quite easy to max it out normally. Of the 5 starter senses, sight, touch, and sound are the only ones useful pretty much all the time. You can add thermographic and ultrasound for sight; and low and high frequency for sound. Lowlight and hearing amplification wouldnt count because they are *not* new senses, they just keep the basic ones from being taken off the list of usuable ones due to darkness or whatever. An orientation system adds another 2. That brings the total sense count up to 9, while 8 is all thats needed to gain the full tactical computer bonus.

So no, I wouldnt let something crazy count when theres easily more than enough to apply via the normal routes. Especially not anything so nebulous like "I can feel my arm gee its not blown off"....

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Austere Emancipa...]

[BlackSmith]

steet sam: "the air seems to taste ..dry"
Veteran: "Gas alert! Gas Alert! put those masks back on!"

something you CAN taste that has no scent.
you should know it, you have been in SA-Int. (kai?)

[Austere Emancipa...]

That doesn't help in analyzing the tactical situation, though. That's just a perception test to spot a gas attack.

And yeah, I did my time, but they never mentioned anything about that. I wonder, though, if that's really about your sense of taste.

[BlackSmith]

well ..yes it does not help to analyze the tactical situation, BUT it does share the taste thus someone else could identify it.

well they should have.
some gases are taistless but have odor, while some gases are scentlles but have taste.
and some gases are odorless and taistless, but dont worry about them. after you know that there is such gas in the air, it is too late.

[Zazen]

[Lilt]

[Zazen]

If I'm just sitting here stationary then nothing is being accelerated in any direction, but I think I can still tell which way is down.

[BlackSmith]

man, you will be amazed when you study enough...
excample you will learn that even now, when your siting before your computer, your traveling for thousands of kilometers per hour.