[X] My Assistant

[Squiddy Attack]

3182: No reenacting the falling-off-a-bridge scene from Inception while borrowing the rigger's van.

[Queek]

3183: My hacker may not be based off of Moss from The IT Crowd
3184: My face may no longer be based off of either of the Renhams from The IT Crowd
3185: Warhammers are not an effective interogation tool
3186: Mobile homes are not good for making armored tanks

[Manunancy]

3186: Mobile homes are not good for making armored tanks

3186b : A tank is not good for making a mobile home either
3187c : But a big enough mobile home may have a tank hidden inside

[Headshot_Joe]

3183: My hacker may not be based off of Moss from The IT Crowd
3184: My face may no longer be based off of either of the Renhams from The IT Crowd

Why not? I think Maurice would actually be a decent template for a Hacker character. He has the technical expertise and lack of social skill associated with the archetype, and he has the tendency to mess with the minds of his colleagues...

And it's Reynholm...

[Queek]

It's what I get for typing in the wee hours of the morning. And I'm saying Moss is a bad example because...well...he's absolutely batshit insane! >_> Not to mention how he reacts when he gets a gun...

[Squiddy Attack]

It's what I get for typing in the wee hours of the morning. And I'm saying Moss is a bad example because...well...he's absolutely batshit insane

How is this different from many hacker characters? Or Shadowrunners in general, for that matter? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Kyoto Kid]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ic.gif) ..."I'm not as you would imply, batshit insane. I just like to blow things up now and then. You know...make Beeeeg Baddda Booooooom!!!!

...hahhahhahhah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) That's all."

--Leela G.

[Jaid]

How is this different from many hacker characters? Or Shadowrunners in general, for that matter? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

actually, as a general rule if there wasn't something wrong with them they would probably be working for a mega.

i mean, you see a lot of "screwed over by the corporation and is now a shadowrunner" types, but that only really makes sense if they couldn't just go work for someone else in the first place.

training people to the level of competence possessed by the average shadowrunner is neither cheap nor easy, and one black mark on an otherwise flawless career is likely to be ignored. I mean, if Ares claims you stole and sold on the black market their latest prototype for an orbital laser, Shiawase won't give you the blueprints for their latest nuclear reactor (even if they're pretty sure you were framed, since it doesn't hurt to play it safe). but they'd probably hire you in a second to be on one of their HTR teams or something like that if you otherwise had an excellent reputation, are extremely skilled, have good teamwork skills, etc.

i mean, it's not really all that different from extracting someone from ares. except that now, they don't have to pay shadowrunners to extract an extremely talented and skilled individual, they just have to set up a couple of interviews and put you through basic orientation, which is hella cheap compared to the cost of training a new operative. if shiawase isn't willing to hire you, it's likely because you have a whole bunch of stuff on your record showing a *pattern* of undesirable behaviour.

[Whipstitch]

Hence why the book fluff tended to be a bit more fixated on ideologues in past editions. Maybe an eco-terrorist Eagle Shaman isn't primarily a runner, but if you offer to provide one with the resources necessary to level Telestrian Industry's newest R&D lab you probably won't need to twist their arm to get the deal done. So, yeah, a lot of Shadowrunners are going to either be unable or unwilling to do other work. Plus, realistically, I would think many characters would have the Day Job quality and live double lives, but in practice such things tend to be under represented simply because groups get together to do runs and not operate a laundromat.

[jaellot]

Hence why the book fluff tended to be a bit more fixated on ideologues in past editions. Maybe an eco-terrorist Eagle Shaman isn't primarily a runner, but if you offer to provide one with the resources necessary to level Telestrian Industry's newest R&D lab you probably won't need to twist their arm to get the deal done. So, yeah, a lot of Shadowrunners are going to either be unable or unwilling to do other work. Plus, realistically, I would think many characters would have the Day Job quality and live double lives, but in practice such things tend to be under represented simply because groups get together to do runs and not operate a laundromat.

I make the occasional threat of doing a session where it's nothing but this sort of tedious, everyday stuff. Laundry. Groceries (or at least some soy flavorings or cigs). That kind of crap. Becuase it has to happen sometime I'm sure.

3187- I will never actually carry out my threats to do a session of nothing but boring, everyday, average life stuff like laundry, grocery shopping, dishes, taking out the trash, etc.

[Queek]

3187- I will never actually carry out my threats to do a session of nothing but boring, everyday, average life stuff like laundry, grocery shopping, dishes, taking out the trash, etc.

3187a: If I do follow through on these threats, I am no longer to be surprised when a gunfight breaks out in the laundromat/grocery store/on the street, or a corp raid hits the house. The other runners need -some- action.

3188: If my character has a day job that could, in theory, have a run setup against it, I will not be surprised when I have to deal with a group of rival runners hitting my day job.
3188a: I am also no longer allowed to be surprised if my day job gives me any form of disease or deformity that would be normal for the occupation. See the earlier rules on day jobs or why this might be.

And also...for those of you unframiliar with Morris Moss, I present the following link which is not suitable for most minors, as it contains some strong language and full frontal British Nerdity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TCDpUGTkCs...;has_verified=1

[TheMadderHatter]

3189: Plans must be organized into a priority order inversely proportional to the estimated energy output of the explosives involved.
3189a: "Nuke Everything" can only be plan Z.
3189b: Plans A through Y cannot be "execute plan Z"
3189c: Paranoiac pessimists can no longer be the sole arbiter of when plans A through Y have failed.

3190: Hand of God has limits, but I may not devote every spare Nuyen of any recently rescued character to their experimental determination.
3190a: No matter who is subject to the aforementioned experiments, it is my character who will burn the Edge.

[Neraph]

Plus, realistically, I would think many characters would have the Day Job quality and live double lives, but in practice such things tend to be under represented simply because groups get together to do runs and not operate a laundromat.

Thank you for the run idea.

[CanRay]

3191: If I have the "Live with Parents" Lifestyle, I can't have my parents then be retired Shadowrunners.
3191a: Especially if Daddy is a Troll Street Samurai that's a Papa Wolf From Hell!

[WyldKnight]

3191b: However if two players are the parents and one player the child it may be an interesting game.

[CanRay]

3191c: Especially if the two players are the RL Parents of the Child! ("No, honey, you keep the pistol upright. They put the sights on top for a reason." "But sights are so 20th century! I have a Smartgun Link!")

[WyldKnight]

Lol, if I ever have kids I'm doing this without a doubt.

[jaellot]

Lol, if I ever have kids I'm doing this without a doubt.

Different system (7th Sea), and I made some streamline mechanics, but I actually did do a couple of games for our then 4 yr. old and our friends' 7 yr old so they could play with the adults. Everybody loved it.

[Sixgun_Sage]

3192: I am no longer allowed to make fox-shifter shadow-journalist pornomancers. That level of social connection is reserved for fixers.

[WyldKnight]

Different system (7th Sea), and I made some streamline mechanics, but I actually did do a couple of games for our then 4 yr. old and our friends' 7 yr old so they could play with the adults. Everybody loved it.

Somewhat related I ran a 4E DnD game for my little brother. I was introduced to role playing games around his age and if this hobby is going to survive we have to bring in new blood where possible.

3193: I am no longer allowed to catapult the Troll Adept into an enemy to use the ramming rules mixed with the movement power from a spirit.
3194: The words "Fisting for Great Justice!!" can never be uttered again. The Light element of his melee attack is not the Light of Justice.
3194a: Giving the Johnson who betrayed us a Shining Finger should be limited to just flipping him off. Actual insertion may kill him.

[CanRay]

3195: Having the NPCs use "The Fastball Special" to take out an entire gang all by themselves humiliates the PCs. I cannot do so again. Unless it would be really, really cool.

[Jaid]

3194a: Giving the Johnson who betrayed us a Shining Finger should be limited to just flipping him off. Actual insertion may kill him.

where's the drawback to this one?

[Sephiroth]

3196. As GM, I am no longer allowed to vividly describe the effects of the Orgy spell, particularly when used on ghouls.

[Neraph]

3196. As GM, I am no longer allowed to vividly describe the effects of the Orgy spell, particularly when used on ghouls.

Eeeeew. You are a cruel, mean GM.

[bobbaganoosh]

3196. As GM, I am no longer allowed to vividly describe the effects of the Orgy spell, particularly when used on ghouls.

3196a. Or Bubba the Love Troll.