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> Artwork, Ok, so what's the beef?
20thCenturyFox
post Jan 30 2004, 06:54 AM
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Adolph Hitler said "Those who paint the sky green and the grass blue should be sterilized".

All of those people criticising artwork should think about that before they write reasons such as "The trolls horns are the wrong size" or such.

If there's one thing i've learned from working as a professional illustrator and designer it's that everyone's going to see things differently. The secret is to be respectful of both the artist and of other's tastes. I find that the people with the loudest opinions and criticism are always the ones who know Art the least.

And yes, I'm comparing you to Adolph Hitler. Good Day.
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post Jan 30 2004, 07:37 AM
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Yeah, hear that, everyone? Anyone who expresses an opinion is a Nazi! It's only one step from disagreeing with someone's "artistic vision" to gassing Jews!
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post Jan 30 2004, 07:38 AM
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Those of us with a vasectomy can paint any colors we want. ;)
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post Jan 30 2004, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (Prototype @ Jan 29 2004, 06:28 PM)
I like a lot of the art in Bug City, especially the painted section and the character art at the back.

The same guy that did that character art also did some pictures for Corporate Security Handbook in the archetypes section that was damn good and I think done a few of the better ones in Cybertechnology.

Peter Bergting.

I remember that he used to get a lot of crap for his style, which I've come to actually like over the years. I think his style didn't really help a lot in Cybertechnology and VR2.0 the way it worked so well in Bug City, and to a lesser extent CorpSec Handbook.

It was specifically when reading a book that came out around the same time as Target: UCAS (MitS?) where he had a picture of an ork hougan with shading and greys to it on the title page. It looked incredible. I've since gone back all the way to Bug City, and I really like his work in that, especially because it helps capture the mood.

There's also some good art in Corporate Download, specifically in the first chapter (the guy with the M-16 slung from his shoulder inserting a card into a scanner) and the Wuxing chapter (a female runner in a vent(?) looking forward with her gun at her side. I love that one).

Tom Baxa, OTOH, sucks. He uses far too much line and everything is out of proportion and just flat. His work in Awakenings was just awful, and some of his work just makes no f-ing sense (e.g., some thing with no arms bending over and licking the ground in Awakenings, IIRC, that just looks out of place and wrong.) I can't remember if it was him or Laubenstein or MacDougall (whose work in the Mojave chapter of CFS was atrocious) all of whom I dislike immensely for their poor contributions (if they can be called that) to the artwork of Shadowrun who had a page in the original Shadowrun Companion (I think it's still there in subsequent versions) of all these different hideous faces. I would compare them to the grotesque imagery of Goya's black paintings, but that would be a great insult to Goya and misses the probable fact that I don't think those faces were supposed to be grotesque. I was under the impression that they were supposed to be "normal" or "average." Which they are neither.

I will grant one--and only ONE--exception to any of them. The full-page image opposite the first page of the Blood Mage Gestalt chapter of Threats. That was a good picture. I don't care which one did it (assuming one of them is responsible), but it's good. The rest, well, look like my ass.

Bradstreet was incredible. So was the person who did the cover of the Underworld Sourcebook. And I still want those pants from the Survival of the Fittest cover.

BTW, Max--funny movie.
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post Jan 30 2004, 07:43 AM
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moosegod, what image?
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post Jan 30 2004, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (John Campbell)
Yeah, hear that, everyone? Anyone who expresses an opinion is a Nazi! It's only one step from disagreeing with someone's "artistic vision" to gassing Jews!
:please:

We were compared to Hitler, not the National Socialists. We're really all just being called really bad artists.
...Ooh, does that mean we get to wear the moustache?

~J
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