miniguns, I want an HMG. Is that so hard? Options

[Grinder]

Or you Use a Strong (Recoil-2 or -3) Troll and a personalised ( -1)foregrip (-1) Hip or Schockpad(-1)
with a Tripod (Recoil -6) use 6 Gasvents (Recoil -3)
But Mostly a Minigun is used on a Vehicle or for Suppressive Fire (or against Predators (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

I don't think that shockpad and tripod stack. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Sengir]

Pshaw. You'd think people wouldn't be silly to do things like mount a 75mm anti-tank cannon to a Vespa scooter bike.

That's a recoilless rifle...why am I just imagining a troll cooking his whole team with the backblast of a recoilless AC? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[MikeKozar]

Pshaw. You'd think people wouldn't be silly to do things like mount a 75mm anti-tank cannon to a Vespa scooter bike.

*cough*

So, hypothetically, what if somebody wanted an assault cannon in a gyro-stabilized Thundercloud Contrail racing bike? The stock rules don't seem to address recoil in Single-Shot mode, and even though the descriptions of the weapons all talk about massive recoil, it doesn't really effect players, does it? Even the semi-auto version should only be at the standard -1 recoil on a second shot, right?

~Mike

[wind_in_the_ston...]

It sounds like you're asking whether firing guns should have a detrimental effect on the actions of the characters. Like forcing a Pilot Groundcraft roll on the driver of the Vespa in question.

[MikeKozar]

It sounds like you're asking whether firing guns should have a detrimental effect on the actions of the characters. Like forcing a Pilot Groundcraft roll on the driver of the Vespa in question.

I've done my time on both sides of the DM Screen, so whenever a rule looks too good to be true I start trying to find the holes in it. Breaking the game with overpowered weapons is only fun for about five minutes.

The implementation of heavy weps in SS/SA mode means they have negligible recoil. Since that is counter-intuitive, I wanted to get some opinions on it. A Panther XXL assault cannon can be modded into a SA weapon for +400Y; If I mount it on my cycle, I'll get -6 to recoil, and the second shot will only have 1 point of recoil to absorb. If I upgrade it to Burst-fire, my first 3-round burst will be at -2 (Absorbed) and my second shot will be at -3 (Absorbed). Assuming I have the skill to land both hits, that should be two DV12 AP-5 hits, a decent damage output in a chase. I'm firing 6 Assault Cannon Shells, from a speeding motorcycle, with a recoil penalty of...0.

Seems low.

Now, that could be assuming that part of that complicated and expensive weapon mount is a set of heavy recoil absorbing hydraulics, but it's still a phenomenal amount of firepower being thrown from a bike for there *not* to be some sort of penalty. I like the Pilot Groundcraft roll idea - especially since my Rigger is specced well enough for that to work out.

~Mike