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[milk ducks]

Marwynn, you're welcome to keep the Rating 3 Fakes if you'd like. But if you'd like to trade them in for FFBA, that's fine as well.

Update on OperationSpirit's character: Finished! Finally. Well, except for gear. We'll knock that out tomorrow evening, and hopefully get it posted up here for everyone to see.

-milk.

[cndblank]

Good news!

How do you want us to do software?

Can we give the hacker some cred to cover his or her time and expense to get some decent pirated software for all of us or do we need to buy it ourselves?

[cndblank]

How do we want to tie the character's backgrounds together?

For example Rev knows Escrima. Perhaps her and Shotgun Sam have trained under the same teacher together?

Her best contact is a street doc named Harrison who is a pretty good surgeon. Runs a charity clinic on the side funded by his paying customers.

[Marwynn]

Hmm interesting. A low-level "ganger" contact runs a community outreach centre of sorts from Shotgun Sam's old neighbourhood. His lil brother and sister attended there, and the administrator joined the same gang as Sam for protection and closer access.

I figured that outreach centre would've had maybe a visit from a doc every now and then. Rev may have accompanied the street doc Harrison to this place while Sam was on duty guarding the place. Maybe even teaching some of the kids the basics.

Or it could be the other way around, Samson accompanies the troll admin to the charity clinic along with a few kids who need help. They meet and spar.

Or as you said through a trainer, though I don't have a contact that does that for Sam. Just a street mage sparring partner.

[Karoline]

So, you said that we could have used vehicles, but you never said what exact discount we could get (Since the book says from 20% to 50%). I figure since my character is a mechanic, could basically get a real junker and be able to make it usable.

Also, I figure we need to apply the +4 availability to the vehicle in question, so there is a limit to what we can get used.

[milk ducks]

I've got just a few minutes before I have to leave for work. Here's a breakdown of the group so far:

Karoline: Rigger / Mechanic UNFINISHED
DigitalOYABUN: Elf Adept UNFINISHED
Thanee: Raven APPROVED
Method: Kid Hollywood APPROVED
cndblank: Rev APPROVED
SincereAgape: Hacker/Technomancer UNFINISHED
OperationSpirt: Mechanic UNFINISHED
Marwynn: Shotgun Sam APPROVED

I'd like the game to start this week sometime. I've got my initial post basically ready; just a bit of fine tuning left. Maybe Wednesday (the 14th) night, or Thursday (the 15th) morning? So, having said that, I'm going to officially close character creation on the morning of Wednesday (the 14th). So if you haven't submitted your character for final approval yet, you've got until midnight tomorrow night. After that, and I'll have to ask you to wait until the beginning of the next run.

So let's get those runners cranked out!

-milk.

[DigitalOYABUN]

I'm in the same boat as Karoline...need to know percentage taken off of used vehicle. 300 BP's doesnt leave alot of wiggle room.


oh and can you pimp out a used vehicle? I'm playing a chicano, so I had to ask.

[Thanee]

Edit: I was also planning on turning one of my vehicles into my home, how does that work out for lifestyle? Should I just pay for necessities and entertainment, since neighborhood, security, and comforts are all based on my vehicle and where it is?

Well, if you are technically on the street... that's 0 points for those categories. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bye
Thanee

[Thanee]

Fake SINs and Licenses have an availability equal to their Rating x3. So Rating 1 and 2's are fine. Anything higher than that, and you'll need to contact me.

Consider yourself contacted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Got my SINs and Licenses at Rating 3 right now. I do have good relations to a cool fixer contact to provide those, however, if that's good enough an explanation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Bye
Thanee

P.S. Still have 10k¥ to spend... maybe I will get me a nice car (though I probably have to drop a skill by one to actually be able to afford a nice car). And after reading the section on customized lifestyles in RC, I will probably add some profile to that one. Will have that ironed out by Wednesday for sure.

[Karoline]

Sorry, working on what all I want to buy. I've got about 150k roughly planned out so far. Need to buy some ammo and programs still though.

[DigitalOYABUN]

Okay, a question on advanced lifestyles. The positive quality of Homegrown Farming states that it adds two to neccessities as far as food is concerned. Could it possibly be applied in the same manner to say...Entertainment if the right plants were grown? Obviously it would be one or the other if allowed.


Also, is a roommate allowed? Was thinking of a cousin (taking perfect roommate for him) and splitting the cost of rent. Of course since he's big into the gang life, it becomes a crashpad.

[Karoline]

What kind of plants could you.... oh... wait (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Never mind.

If you do go the roommate route, don't forget that it increases the overall cost of your lifestyle by 10% before the roommate pays for half.

[Thanee]

Ok, made some final changes (small change to skill list; swapped one spell out; advanced lifestyle; spent rest of equipment money).

As long as the R3 SIN/Licences are alright, I'm set then.

Bye
Thanee

[Karoline]

So, did anyone mention about how all hacking programs are availability 12? Because I feel that is an important fact when trying to buy hacking programs.

[Karoline]

Also, how much are autosofts adaptable between drones? For example, does each individual drone need its own maneuver autosoft? What about targeting and clearsight?

I always figured that autosofts where general enough that they could help with any drone with a few tweaks of the program, but I figure I should ask to be safe. So will I need seprate Targeting autosofts for each weapon and/or drone type? Will I need a maneuver for each individual drone? Will movement type (Flying, wheeled, anthro) be enough, or will one maneuver be good enough to handle anything?

I ask because the book never really says how encompassing autosofts are. It never really says that you need a different one for every kind of drone, or that one works for all, so I figured I'd ask before I show up with too few autosofts.

[Marwynn]

Maneuver is by movement type I believe. I know that Targeting is by weapon class (Automatic, Heavy, Longarm, etc). You can crack the copy protection and it's all good. Clearsight I believe is by individual drone model, buy I could be wrong there.

Most of this is from the dumpshock forums though.

[cndblank]

I think the the piloting software is going to be customized to each drone.

The targeting software would be easier to adapt between comparable weapons.

[Karoline]

No, I know Pilots have to be unique for each drone (Although once again the rules don't expressly state this) but I'm asking about the maneuver autosoft.

I'd also like to know for the Covert Ops and Defense autosofts. I figure both are universal enough to go onto all drones. I mean there might have to be some slight tweaks to deal with exact type of movement and drone size, but I figure that for the most part that should be small enough to not require entire new programs.

I figure that the autosofts work like skills for drones. Maneuver gives Pilot (whatever) so you could have them for groundcraft, anthro, flying, aerospace, and ships (And anything I might be forgetting).

Targeting I figure would be gunnery, since all mounted guns fall under gunnery, regardless of type.

Defense is dodge (or possibly block since it only works in melee), and CovertOps is infiltrate.

Clearsight is perception.

I figure that if a rigger can jump into a drone and have all of his general skills work on every single kind of drone, the autosoft should be able to do the same thing. Anyway, this is why I ask.

I currently have 3 different maneuver autosofts for different movement types, only have one gun type, so should only need one targeting regardless (I'm even going so far as to buy my own instead of just ripping a copy off my doberman).

[Karoline]

Would it be okay for my bus to have fung shui? You know like, provided that I park facing due north or whatever.

Edit: I also took no neighbors because I figure I don't have any real ones, based on where I park. Took lax security and ambusher's delight to help even it out, going to take a level of 'no privacy' since there isn't a lot of space and there are a bunch of window.

[Karoline]

Woo, three posts for me, none for you.

So yeah, I'm basically done except for a few nickle and dime expenditures, but I really need to know how much of a discount I can get on my vehicles so I know just how much I have left to spend.

[cndblank]

That makes sense.

The software analyzes the situation and tell the pilot what to do.

[Method]

SR4A is pretty clear that Maneuver is specific to vehicle type and Targeting is specific to weapon type, basically like the analogous Active Skills. The rules for other autosofts don't really specify, but the range of situations they apply to are much more limited.

[Karoline]

SR4A is pretty clear that Maneuver is specific to vehicle type and Targeting is specific to weapon type, basically like the analogous Active Skills. The rules for other autosofts don't really specify, but the range of situations they apply to are much more limited.

Ah, don't have 4A. Still, seems odd that targeting requires a particular autosoft for weapon type (emulating pistols/automatics/longarms) when a rigger jumped into the drone uses gunnery regardless of what is attached to the drone. Oh well, works for me and means I have the right programs. Now I just need my other dozen or so questions answered and I'll be ready to submit my character.

[milk ducks]

I'm in the same boat as Karoline...need to know percentage taken off of used vehicle. 300 BP's doesnt leave alot of wiggle room.

In the interest of saving time, I'll just be honest: I'm not fussed at all about the % discount on used items. 20%, 50%, it really doesn't matter much to me. So I'll assume we're all adults here, and just allow you guys to pick your own discounts on used items. It's not something I care to get hung up on; it's the characters I'm interested in, not what they're driving.

Consider yourself contacted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Got my SINs and Licenses at Rating 3 right now. I do have good relations to a cool fixer contact to provide those, however, if that's good enough an explanation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yup, that's totally fine.

So, did anyone mention about how all hacking programs are availability 12? Because I feel that is an important fact when trying to buy hacking programs.

Yep, they're also totally fair game. Feel free to pick them up if that's your thing.

-milk.

[Karoline]

Sounds like good stuffs. I should have my character all polished up by morning.