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Feb 6 2004, 02:42 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 11-August 03 Member No.: 5,408 |
Just because I cant spell.. sigh.. well, it was worth a try...
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Feb 6 2004, 03:58 AM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
It doesn't! The total modifier for 'Caster Only' spells is -3. This already includes the modifiers for 'Touch' and 'Restricted Target'. When these are already factored in to a spell, you do not get the entire -3 when applying the 'Caster Only' modifier. |
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Feb 6 2004, 04:19 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
indeed. for a caster-only health spell, you should apply the Very Restricted Target mod and leave it at that.
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Feb 6 2004, 12:27 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
No argument there. I completely agree that that's what should be done, but the section makes no mention of that. Caster Only is marked as available for Health spells without mention of different effects when used on Health as opposed to Detection or Manipulation spells. That bit simply needs some clearing up. "Caster Only lowers the Drain Level of Health spells by just 1, because Health spells already include Touch Range and Voluntary Target modifiers." |
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Feb 6 2004, 05:01 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 25-May 03 Member No.: 4,634 |
I realize the discussion has gone... slightly off track, but I've done some cutsom physad variations.
http://core.binghamton.edu/~gunnerj/beastlore.htm http://core.binghamton.edu/~gunnerj/mentat.htm |
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Feb 6 2004, 05:52 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,049 Joined: 24-March 03 Member No.: 4,323 |
Thanks GunnerJ. I like the idea of adepts gaining access to critter powers (this was part of the inspiration for my slightly twisted steal power technique) but I dont like the idea of adepts gaining certain powers permanently (like regeneration or immunity to normal weapons). Furthermore, I dont think I would allow adepts to gain powers possessed by solely by spirits.
I need some time too look over the mentat powers, but its certainly an interesting idea. |
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Feb 6 2004, 06:02 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 25-May 03 Member No.: 4,634 |
I have my own concerns about the prices I gave the powers. I pretty much winged it without really considering everything... Regen adn INW got really huge costs, so I hope that balances them out somewhat.
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Feb 7 2004, 01:16 AM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
The section detailing Health spells specifies that most of them already include the Touch and Voluntary Target modifiers. The description of Caster Only lists Touch, Voluntary Target, and Very Restricted Target as being already included in the modifier. It isn't too hard to extrapolate that when most Health spells are modified to be Caster Only, only the Very Restricted Target modifier would actually apply. |
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