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post Nov 8 2009, 10:36 PM
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Skillwires are too expensive anymore 10,000 per rating point of Active Skill? Ugh. Its 30,000-40,000 just for a useful level of a single skill. You'd be better of spending the 16 karma on the actual skills themselves. Although I guess you could try and buy pirated skillsofts if Kerenshara was being really nice.
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post Nov 8 2009, 10:37 PM
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I wasn't planning on getting Move-by-Wire. I promise. In SR3, it was basically a ticket to the grave. I'm still prejudiced against it, even now.

A better example: Would someone be able to identify a Retinal Duplicator (which is forbidden) from a Smartlink (which is restricted) from a Flare compensator? (which is legal)
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post Nov 8 2009, 11:41 PM
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Not from a casual examination, and even when that's not the case a fake license/SIN should take care of it in most cases. One hit from a scanner just gives the general location and type of implant. It requires multiple hits to get the specific function, grade, and stuff like that. How many hits is dependent upon the GM. Oddly enough, the more implants you have, the more hits a scanner will get. So, apparently, rather than confusing a scanner by having too much information showing up, it has an easier time of determining exactly what kind of implants you have. As opposed to a guy with a single datajack. He'll get an average of one less hit (which, again, determines not only success but degree of success) than a cyberfreak will.

</3 simplistic rules.

All that said, I wouldn't worry about it too much unless you plan on being a cyberfetishist or someone who gets arrested a lot (as opposed to someone who gets away more often than caught). It shouldn't be an issue most of the time.
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post Nov 8 2009, 11:47 PM
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More like more likely of setting the bloody thing off in the first place.

Now, once you've gotten your hits, you're rolling against the individual pieces.

Nanocyberware is excluded from that "grouping" per Augmentation.

Each piece is checked by grade, but the initial "ping" is by the least piece of 'ware. So if you have all Delta' and one piece of Basicware, the ping is off the single piece. Now, mind you, to detect the Deltaware, you still have to hit each one. (It's just the one die roll though.)

So threshold 1 = BasicWare incl. function (the things almost broadcast it).
Alphaware requires a second hit.
Betaware requires a third hit.
Deltaware requires five hits.

Treat NanoCyberware as one grade higher.

You want to know the function of those DeltaWare Retinal Adjusters? Call that one seven (7) hits.

That help?
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post Nov 8 2009, 11:48 PM
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A little. I was just looking for clarifictaion, since the books I have access to don't make it easy to find..

Is the cap for resources still 250000?
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post Nov 8 2009, 11:50 PM
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For the initial 750 Karma? Yes.

For the extra 50 Karma, 1 point of Karma = 2,500 Nuyen..
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post Nov 8 2009, 11:51 PM
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As a note, I updated the character listing info and moved it all to the #1 post in the thread. Tell me if it's inacurate or incomplete.
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post Nov 9 2009, 11:31 AM
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Looks good to me. Don't you love how badly SR groups always break the <1% of population is awakened? Granted that is partially because you basically need at least one and most groups are slightly under 100 members (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Still... go Team Magi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 9 2009, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 9 2009, 06:31 AM) *
Looks good to me. Don't you love how badly SR groups always break the <1% of population is awakened? Granted that is partially because you basically need at least one and most groups are slightly under 100 members (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Still... go Team Magi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I can't think of ANY way to use that to my (and the story's) advantage. Nope. Not a one.
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post Nov 9 2009, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 9 2009, 05:31 AM) *
Looks good to me. Don't you love how badly SR groups always break the <1% of population is awakened? Granted that is partially because you basically need at least one and most groups are slightly under 100 members (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Still... go Team Magi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Technically that number is purely a global percentage. Magicians will always have a significantly higher percentage in any area that involves heavy cash flow, including the shadows. As opposed to occupations with low income or prestige associated with them, such as sanitation workers or movie theater attendants. Considering that running the shadows is one of the few high prestige, high income jobs that also caters to either criminals or the SINless and where personal freedom is about as high as it can get, it really isn't a shock at all that the percentage of magicians is that skewed. The same logic applies to metahuman numbers, too.
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post Nov 9 2009, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Nov 9 2009, 10:35 AM) *
Considering that running the shadows is one of the few high prestige


I never realized being a shadowrunner was considered prestigious.

I want small children following me around going "Oh gee, are you really a runner? Can I have your autograph? Yes, I know I've already gotten 9, but this will make an even 10. Yeay! Maybe I should go for a round dozen..." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Not really, that would make the whole stealth assassin gig very hard, though they would make excellent shields and alibis....
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post Nov 9 2009, 04:48 PM
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Of course it's prestigious. That's why they make tons of sims and trideo shows about how awesome the life of a shadowrunner is, whether it's accurate or not. Just like they do about criminals today. Pulp Fiction, Heat, Snatch, Reservoir Dogs, etc. Add to that the Robin Hood vibe they get from those same media outlets and, well, hopefully you get what I mean. Hell, there's entire lines of cyberware implants out there named after specific runners, such as Kid Stealth Legs.

Oh, and prestige does not necessarily equate to fame. All you have to do to keep that in check is burn Street Cred to kill your Notoriety, which keeps your Public Awareness down (silly as those rules are).
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post Nov 9 2009, 04:55 PM
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Its prestigious in the Fluff presented for SR4 and SR4A. However, if a GM wants to run more SR2/SR1 style, the general populace may not know the term "Shadowrunner" but they would certainly know the profile

Skilled, takes on dangerous work for big payouts, the better ones blow their cash on high living knowing that life is short.

But all that aside, I am still looking for a Mentor for Orb. Preferably a mage or someone with a skill aptitude.

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post Nov 9 2009, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE (BlueMax @ Nov 9 2009, 11:55 AM) *
But all that aside, I am still looking for a Mentor for Orb. Preferably a mage or someone with a skill aptitude.


Your first post about that was very confusing (I'd meant to comment but got distracted). Not sure that Tempest would make the greatest of mentors... at least not in what Orb would be interested in learning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 9 2009, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 9 2009, 09:00 AM) *
Your first post about that was very confusing (I'd meant to comment but got distracted). Not sure that Tempest would make the greatest of mentors... at least not in what Orb would be interested in learning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Orb wants to learn about what you would call "reality". Orb spends only what time is required out of Hot VR. From Orb's Data Searches, the Awakened have amazing powers.

Also, I am naturally cryptic via internal reference. I know this and apologize. Further, I offer to happily reword statements over and over to make things clearer if it will help.

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post Nov 9 2009, 05:15 PM
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Jordan is awakened, but she isn't a magician, and probably wouldn't make a very good teacher. I am still a bit clueless as to what you are actually looking for in a Mentor.
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post Nov 9 2009, 05:20 PM
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Magnus could probably take that role eventually, but it would have to be something that comes up naturally in-game. He's a pretty down-to-earth kind of character who's been around the block a few times. And while technomancers (and to a somehwat lesser degree, hackers) kind of freak him out a little, he's still pretty sympathetic towards anyone who's having a rough time adjusting to the world. I doubt if he'd respond well to someone who was too clingy, though, especially to the point of being a liability on a job.
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post Nov 9 2009, 05:33 PM
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Tempest certainly could teach Orb, but it would be an... interesting arrangement to say the least.
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post Nov 9 2009, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (Embers @ Nov 9 2009, 09:15 AM) *
Jordan is awakened, but she isn't a magician, and probably wouldn't make a very good teacher. I am still a bit clueless as to what you are actually looking for in a Mentor.


Clueless is almost the word to describe Orb but still off about thirty degrees.

Orb is very quest/mission oriented. While on a run he will happily approach his tasks he has no idea how to handle offtime outside of watching Urban Brawl or logging into a MMO, or three. When Orb was shown his unique gift, it quickly became a way for him to escape his pains. Why would he want to deal with a world where he loses his family when he can pick his family in an MMO? Knowing he has an issue, Orb desires to make a better life for himself. From his POV, that means being part of the strongest Team/Guild/party possible and he is new to the Shadows. Anyone whose character has been to the school of hard knocks would have the wisdom to prevent Orb from pigeon holing himself or worse, making a deal with a Dragon.

The short answer is that he has skills for his tasks, comes alive when he has a goal but without guidance he just melds into the VR. Its not like he will miss orders, talk or idle conversation, he has you right here in the upper left corner chat window....

Offtime when he cannot slump:
"Do I just sit in town?"
"Is there a fishing skill in this game?"
"The healing in this game sucks. Who wants to sit in character for days and do nothing? That's bad design, no fun"


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post Nov 9 2009, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (BlueMax @ Nov 9 2009, 12:39 PM) *
Offtime when he cannot slump:
"Do I just sit in town?"
"Is there a fishing skill in this game?"
"The healing in this game sucks. Who wants to sit in character for days and do nothing? That's bad design, no fun"

OK, THAT's just too damned funny... especially having played quite a few MMORPGs myself.
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post Nov 9 2009, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (BlueMax @ Nov 9 2009, 12:39 PM) *
Offtime when he cannot slump:
"Do I just sit in town?"
"Is there a fishing skill in this game?"
"The healing in this game sucks. Who wants to sit in character for days and do nothing? That's bad design, no fun"


And don't forget how long it takes to raise your stats! You have to do soooo many reps at that 'gym' place to raise your Strength stat. And don't even get me started on what you have to go through to raise your Charisma (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Character Creation sucks too, you don't get to pick your background or anything!

Just be thankful you don't have to play the 'job' minigame (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Nov 9 2009, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 9 2009, 02:14 PM) *
And don't forget how long it takes to raise your stats! You have to do soooo many reps at that 'gym' place to raise your Strength stat. And don't even get me started on what you have to go through to raise your Charisma (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Character Creation sucks too, you don't get to pick your background or anything!

Just be thankful you don't have to play the 'job' minigame (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


That's where your wrong. After the newbie area, I was sent into the NeoNet shard (I guess all "Streetpunk" characters get put places, must be part of the class) . I had to punch into a security node 20 hours a day. It wasn't all bad though. Hours of that was spent training up my team and learning the local blocks for brawl. They even paid me to spend time training for other aspects of the MMO, self-defense and physical prowess. But I got tired of that minigame and left to do these "Missions". My team and I get to brawl on a slew of blocks on the same night. Brawl , beer and babes, life is whiz chummer
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 9 2009, 05:14 PM) *
And don't forget how long it takes to raise your stats! You have to do soooo many reps at that 'gym' place to raise your Strength stat. And don't even get me started on what you have to go through to raise your Charisma (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Character Creation sucks too, you don't get to pick your background or anything!

Just be thankful you don't have to play the 'job' minigame (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

You...

are one sick duck.

*keeps right on laughing*
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post Nov 10 2009, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Nov 9 2009, 05:38 PM) *
You...

are one sick duck.

*keeps right on laughing*


You haven't read my questionnaire yet have you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

At least you can get plenty of items that give you bonuses to stats, like muscle toner. No level requirements either, but some require alot of faction grinding to get access to them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I can see Orb getting smacked by Tempest soooo quickly.
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post Nov 10 2009, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 9 2009, 04:30 PM) *
You haven't read my questionnaire yet have you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

At least you can get plenty of items that give you bonuses to stats, like muscle toner. No level requirements either, but some require alot of faction grinding to get access to them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I can see Orb getting smacked by Tempest soooo quickly.


"As much as I like that kinda work with a broad, lets keep it professional. I don't want to get distracted. BTW good form, that may even bruise"
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