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Snakehandler ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,454 Joined: 28-April 06 From: London, England Member No.: 8,508 ![]() |
Team 2.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 15-October 09 Member No.: 17,754 ![]() |
Embers, why would you have a problem with the one character thats Not going to blow your cover? Anyway, we will see if my secondary skill set lands me a spot.
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
Embers, why would you have a problem with the one character thats Not going to blow your cover? Anyway, we will see if my secondary skill set lands me a spot. I guess I haven't been paying enough attention... but are you making a stealth character that uses an MMG? Going to make sneaking about very difficult for you I'd imagine. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 8-August 09 From: PA Member No.: 17,485 ![]() |
Embers, why would you have a problem with the one character thats Not going to blow your cover? Anyway, we will see if my secondary skill set lands me a spot. Because you make Jordan redundant skill-wise. She is Blades/Unarmed with guns but her main area is Stealth, and from what you posted you are pretty much the same except with spellcasting tacked on top to make you even better given your spell choices with potential to expand to cover other things that she can't. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
Because you make Jordan redundant skill-wise. She is Blades/Unarmed with guns but her main area is Stealth, and from what you posted you are pretty much the same except with spellcasting tacked on top to make you even better given your spell choices with potential to expand to cover other things that she can't. Do keep in mind that something has to be given up to gain access to that spellcasting. Regardless though I know how you feel about having similar skillsets. Both of you have some similarities to Tempest/Lash, as she is a stealthy melee type with spellcasting tacked in for good measure. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It is rather inevitable though that there will be overlaps in archetypes with a group as large as this. I should point out that she lacks any sort of gun skill, so that is all your area. Embers does have a good point though that overlaps in 'stealth' is actually a good thing, because then you can send out small groups for stealthy things instead of one person putting their neck out all alone. A group is only as quiet as their loudest member after all. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 ![]() |
What?! |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 ![]() |
Okay... that was random. What's with the two week double take on something from another thread in another part of the forums? OK, this is odd. I tried to reply to your post. With a loud WHAT... Silence, weakest link in a chain and all. I have no idea how that thread came up. BlueMax |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 15-October 09 Member No.: 17,754 ![]() |
Embers, did you consider that I can cast any of my spells on you? Also, you cant really sneak if youve got a meathead tromping at your side. A melee fighter is vulnerable going solo because its so difficult take down multiple opponents. Ever hear of a silent partner? of course you havent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)
By the way, I dont have any skill groups, only skills. I was actually hoping we would be on the same team. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 29-June 07 Member No.: 12,093 ![]() |
Life is getting back to normal. I think.
Sorry for the absence. I have a lot of catching up to do. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 8-August 09 From: PA Member No.: 17,485 ![]() |
Embers, did you consider that I can cast any of my spells on you? At which point my skill is superflous, since at that point it isn't her highly focused skill that is doing anything, its another person's magic, and she isn't actually pulling off her specialty. Its fine, I'll just ask that Kerenshara put me on the other team from Trench. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
OK, this is odd. I tried to reply to your post. With a loud WHAT... Silence, weakest link in a chain and all. I have no idea how that thread came up. BlueMax Impressive, you managed to reach through the ethers of the internet and pull up a completely random post when you quoted me. Someone POed a technomancer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Shame, would have been quite funny if it had gone off properly. I think Rich Burlew put it best. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 ![]() |
I hope Keren is OK.
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
Yeah, haven't talked to her in a while. I think she posted in another thread not too long ago... but that may have been before the great downtime.
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Snakehandler ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,454 Joined: 28-April 06 From: London, England Member No.: 8,508 ![]() |
Said was planning to spend Sunday getting caught up on the reams of material we've all sent.
Heck of a lot of work, getting a proper campaign off the ground. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 15-October 09 Member No.: 17,754 ![]() |
<edited> Overbudget, trimming
Trench...... | Shadow........ | Male | Elf | Magical Support........ | Healing..... | Hardware.............. note:as a character in Shadowrun, Shadow also has the necessary skills of melee combat, infiltration, and long range combat. kp = karma points. pk = post creation karma. kn = 1000 nuyen. Overview 255att+222 skills+27Qualities+81magic+35spells+92tech+14 foci+24 contacts=750 Attributes 255kp Attributes Body 4 Agility 5 Reaction 7 (9) Strength 3 Intuition 4 Charisma 3 Logic 4 (5) Willpower 4 Initiative 11(13) Edge 3 81kp Magic 7 -1 cyber mystic2/adept4 Skills 222kp Blades 5(7)[+2IRKenjutsu] Infiltration 4(5)(+2urban) Spellcasting 4(+2 manipulation) Dodge 4(+2ranged) Counterspelling 3 (+2 illusion) Automatics 3(+2 SMGs) Medicine 3 Hardware 3 Perception 3(+2visual) First Aid 2(+2combat wounds)Shadowing 2(+2 non-vehicle) Locksmith 2 Summoning 2 Climbing 1 Gymnastics 1 Ettiquette 1 Qualities 27kp Qualities Initiation 1 13kp Initiation 2 16pk Exceptional Attribute: Reaction 40 Mentor spirit 10 Chameleon: based on Cat (+2 illusion) (+2 infiltration) Chameleon was sent from the heavens to tell man he would live forever. However Chameleon dawdled on his way, and lizard was sent to tell man he would die. -2 running tests. Composure test(2) or be 3d6 minutes late leaving home. Mystic Adept 20 4 magic + 1 power point Attribute Boost, Agility .25 Traceless walk 1 Combat sense 3 1.5 Improved Infiltration 1 .25 Improved Blades 1 .5 Motion Sense .5 martial arts (Itto-ryu Kenjutsu) Increased damage, blades 10 maneuver, watchful guard 4 allergy, mild, sunlight -20 addiction, mild, SIDHT SIMFG -10 (something i dont have to stick in my fraggin head) combat monster -20 (composure test to leave a fight) Geas -20 The sword, once drawn, must strike, or it may not be sheathed. Gear 91kp Tech >>227.5kn 7pk tech >> 17.5kn 93kn augs cerebral booster 10kn .1e reflex recorder 10kn .1e REAKT 30kn .4e reaction enhancers@ 40kn .48e hand-blade@ 3kn .2e 14kp 120k foci Sustaining Focus M *7 70kn M3 M3 M1 12pk H3 30kn Weapon focus 20kn Nodachi mods 1.55n->2.3k 1personalized grip*3 .3k 2chameleon coating 1k 1gecko grip .1kn 1skinlink .05 custom look .1k + tanto .55k->.75 snap blades .15 ceramic knife .075 Armor 11/11 form fitting suit 6/2 1.6 fire res .1k 1.7 Personalized Bike racing armor 4/7 .5k ->10.5k thermal damp 3 1.5k ruthenium polymer 7.5k nonconduct 5 1k helmet +1/+2 .2k ->2k wireless disabled image link flare comp 2ultrasound 1 1aud enh 3 .3 2spatial recognizer .1 gas mask .2 low light rearview camera .2 mirrored sunglasses .075 ->.575kn image link .025 skin link .025 thermographic .1 vision enhancement 3 .3 flare comp .05 hardware kit .5->1.7k medkit 5 .5k lockpicks .3 autopicker 2 .4k Smart Beretta Model 70 X 1.3kn Manufacture:mod sound suppressor laser sight removed 1.175 mods 2mod: underbarrel weight.025 1mod:Personalized grip .1 2Mod:chameleon coating 1k 1Mod:skinlink .05 acc. scope .3->1.175 image link .025 smartlink .5 image mag .1 skinlink .05 concealable holster .2 acc.stock .15->.7 Mod:sling .01 30 gel .09 30 subsonic .12 20 shock .08 30 hollowpoint .15 drugs + grenades .7kn ? dose bliss 25 1 dose jazz 75 1 dose psyche 200 1 dose nitro 50 2 doses cram 20 1 doses zen 5 1 dose betameth 20 1 dose snuff 5 5 doses nopaint 75 1 dose zero 100 flash grenade .03 smoke grenade .03 thermal smoke grenade .035 flash-bang .03 Lifestyle 2.5kn-->>7.9 fake SIN 4 4K Sean Clay fake licenses 1k possess 5/conceal 5 + commlink meta Link .1-> .5kn os .2 Browse 1 .05 sim module .1 trodes .05 subvocal mic .05 tag eraser .15 Contacts 24kp Talismonger 4/4 Armorer 2/2 Post creation Karma 16pk initiation lvl 2 7pk gear 12pk foci 15pk spells Background [ Spoiler ]
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
What's with the blackout? Do you not want us to read it or is it just to live up to the nickname Shadow?
Hehe.... kilonuyen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 8-August 09 From: PA Member No.: 17,485 ![]() |
In any case, your powers are off. Combat sense costs .5pp a rating, not .25 Your rating 3 should cost you 1.5 not .75 as listed. You also should look at the ratings of your fake licenses, how many do you have? If they are each rating 3, it would be 300 each for Fire Arms + Concealed Carry of firearms, not to mention a license for your magical gear (Weapon Foci Nodachi is rather obvious so it probably should get a license), and any restricted ware.
Also, remember that PPP gear does not go up to the bod X3 that the rest of armor goes up to as far as encumberance. When wearing all your armor you are at 11/9 or 9/9 for encumberance, that is greater than body x2 for each type, so you'd be taking -2 to Agility and reaction. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
chameleon suit 6/4 8k
form fitting shirt 3/0 .5k forearm/shin guards 0/2 .35k arm/leg casings /1 .35k Helmet +1/+2 That is only a total modified values of 9.5/9. Which technically means no encumbrance penalties (Because it states that for every two points you are above your max, you take a -1 agi penalty, Trench hasn't reached 2 full points yet, and even if you wanted to throw a -1 penalty for the pure fact of being over and then -1 per two points over, you wouldn't have quite reached 10 yet) I could totally see the argument for a -1 for 9.5 rounding up to 10, and Keren may do the -1 for being over then an extra -1 for every 2 points over, so there could be a -2 involved. Could get better overall protection by keeping the cham suit, upgrading to full FFBA, and throwing on some forearm/shin guards for some 0/+1 protection. That'd give an effective armor of 12/8 with an encumbrance of only 9/7. Still slightly over the 8 max, but depending on how you interpret the encumbrance, that may not be an issue. Could drop it to a half suit giving you 10/7 effective and 8/6.5 encumbrance. I agree about the licenses. No way to get 500 on licenses unless you have a single rating 5 license or 5 rating 1 licenses, both of which seem odd on a rating 3 SIN. Guess it could be a rating 3 and 2 or 2, 2, 1 or some other similar combination, which once again all seem odd. Specifying what you spent 500 nuyen on might be a good idea. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 29-June 07 Member No.: 12,093 ![]() |
It's for every 2 points or fraction thereof, according to SR4A p160.
The easiest solution is to simply not count the extra armour if he doesn't want it. Limit it at an acceptable level to ignore encumberance. Also, Form-Fitting Armour adds half the rating, rounded down. So the shirt is only 1 point for encumberance purposes. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
Ah, they (unsurprisingly) changed that in 4A. Always seemed like one of those 'how it was intended' things, but not how it was written. Of course that is somewhat annoying for FFBA because it creates that 1 point that can't be evened out without PPP since virtual all armor has even numbers.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 8-August 09 From: PA Member No.: 17,485 ![]() |
Out of curiosity, Trench, did you look at the characters and the roles that had already been covered before you started building Shadow?
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 ![]() |
Let's start taking bets on what's happened to Kerenshara.
I'm putting 100¥ down on her having had a meteorite smash through her roof while she was watching hew new Blu-Ray copy of Star Trek. Freaking out that the Romulans may actually be attacking Earth, she jumps out of her easy chair and goes screaming into the night, only to run head-first into a tree limb and slip into a coma. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 ![]() |
Let's start taking bets on what's happened to Kerenshara. I'm putting 100¥ down on her having had a meteorite smash through her roof while she was watching hew new Blu-Ray copy of Star Trek. Freaking out that the Romulans may actually be attacking Earth, she jumps out of her easy chair and goes screaming into the night, only to run head-first into a tree limb and slip into a coma. lol. I'm sure, but just to give more options, I'll put my 100 on her having gotten into a wreck/other form of injury of some kind. Sad and depressing, but seems slightly more likely. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 ![]() |
Both of you are wrong.
THEY have her. BlueMax /where THEY can be // family /// aliens //// HC and company ///// time travelers ////// dreaded slashies |
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