Seeking Seattle runners…, Recruitment thread for a PbP game in Seattle, 2072 Options

[Kerenshara]

Kerenshara what are your rules for licenses. Do we need a seperate license for every piece of restricted gear like each firearm or will just a firearms license and a C&C work. I want to make sure I have all of them I need. I am also looking at getting a PI license is that acceptable.

Maybe it would help to list several licenses you see occuring with the different characters as examples.

OK, folks, since we're well ahead of where I expected to be (It's like you folks are really eager to play or something! I expected this to take weeks to prep!) I guess I should address this issue.

Here is how I am dealing with licenses:

If the rating of your fake ID / license exceeds that of the system making the check, I'm not going to even bother rolling. If it's equal, the situation will merrit. If it's less, then we're rolling dice.

For your edification, I will tell you the following:

A RTG 4 ID is sufficient to open a legit bank account. RTG 6 might as well be the real thing. But if you don't use them regularly (creating a data trail), you need to pay to keep them updated - one of the things that makes a very high-end ID "real" is the data trail that checks out AOK when they look.

RTG 1 is a bus pass.
RTG 2 is casual inspection.
RTG 3 will pass most checks and field checks by Law Enforcement.

As to "licenses", the above guidelines hold. You can get "legitimate" permits for items and attach them to a RTG 4 or higher fake SIN, but then the items are REGISTERED to that SIN.

I only require a Gun Permit and a Carry Conceal permit (for each ID). On other items, it is going to depend. For example, NarcoJetTM requires a license either as a medical professional or a Law Enforcement professional. But that medical license would allow you to buy and posess all medical items. An LE License would give you carte blanche to carry LE stuff. If you have questions, ask me speciffics, but if you use that as a guideline, I think you'll figure it out on your own.

Oh, Cyberware is a separate license, but you have to have the individual (fake?) licenses updated every time you add something new.

All that make sense?

[Embers]

Jordan has a license for each restricted piece of gear she has (a fake license, a real license for an actual SIN is I believe, free?):
Assault Rifle
Heavy Pistol
Sword
Smartlink systems
Gel Bullets
Regular Bullets

I didn't buy a second license for each duplicate of the same type of thing, ie. she is licensed to have regular and gel rounds, I didn't figure she'd need a license for each of the two types of regular rounds, or to own a second pistol. I saw it more along the lines of she is licensed to own Predator IVs, the number of Predators she owns is irrelavant once she is allowed to own one.

Do you have a suggestion as to how I should change that to fit within your way of handling licenses? ie, would a person need to have a license to buy regular ammo and gel ammo give that they already have a license to own a pistol that uses that ammo?

[Karoline]

Thank you, MilkDucks. That was excellent.

Unfortunately, most of us who play the game and had varied backgrounds couldn't be built with BP without running out of points. *grin* Especially with knowledges.

I think contacts are the real kickers.
Mom: 2/6
Dad: 3/6
Sibling: 2/6
That professor that you've spent hours talking to: 3/4
A whole slew of friends 1-3/1-3
Girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse 2/5-6
That one friend that knows -everybody in the freaking world- 6/4

I figure most people could spend most of their 400 BP on contacts alone, nevermind actually having skills.

I'm writing up a character sheet for myself right now, I have 17 skills, though most of them are 1, with about an equal number of 2s and 3s. Sadly I don't think I have anything over a 3. Maybe if I got back into martial arts my unarmed would go from 3 to 4. 134 BP tied up in skills ATM, along with 180 in attributes (Including edge). Need to look over qualities and see what I have.

[Kerenshara]

One more thing:

Rating 5 Licenses are available for "F" items, but you need to talk to me because they're going to be expensive.

If you're thinking Betaware of any kind, a single "Restricted Item" quality will get you as much as you like, representing former special forces or whatever... the price will handle most of the rest of the balance.

If you want Deltaware, talk to me. I might be convinced... assuming you can afford the thing(s).

I also MIGHT be willing to overlook availability on something particular if you have a good enough story behind it... and a contact who might help explain it.

OK, I lied, one FINAL thing: fIREARMS

Some of the firearms will have different numbers. When you're ready to buy guns, talk to me. Essentially, a couple assault rifles do more damage to balance out being otherwise "mediocre" and there are some "medium" pistols and SMGs that have slightly different damage curves. The FN 5-7C is one, as is the FN P-92 Praetor. The notable AR is the FN HAR.

[Embers]

OK, I lied, one FINAL thing: fIREARMS

Some of the firearms will have different numbers. When you're ready to buy guns, talk to me. Essentially, a couple assault rifles do more damage to balance out being otherwise "mediocre" and there are some "medium" pistols and SMGs that have slightly different damage curves. The FN 5-7C is one, as is the FN P-92 Praetor. The notable AR is the FN HAR.

What changes are you making to the FN HAR? It was the AR that I had picked out for Jordan, not that I have any clue on whether any guns other than pistols are of any use.

[Kerenshara]

Jordan has a license for each restricted piece of gear she has (a fake license, a real license for an actual SIN is I believe, free?):

A real license of ANY kind is included in the item cost, but requires either a legit SIN or a RTG 4+ SIN to attach to.

Assault Rifle
Heavy Pistol
Sword
Smartlink systems
Gel Bullets
Regular Bullets

The weapons are all one license to posess and one to carry concealed. Ammunition included. The "posess" is a "background check".

The smartlink, if it's cyber, is your "cyber license". If external, it's under your firearms.

I didn't buy a second license for each duplicate of the same type of thing, ie. she is licensed to have regular and gel rounds, I didn't figure she'd need a license for each of the two types of regular rounds, or to own a second pistol. I saw it more along the lines of she is licensed to own Predator IVs, the number of Predators she owns is irrelavant once she is allowed to own one.

Do you have a suggestion as to how I should change that to fit within your way of handling licenses? ie, would a person need to have a license to buy regular ammo and gel ammo give that they already have a license to own a pistol that uses that ammo?

Does that help?

[Kerenshara]

What changes are you making to the FN HAR? It was the AR that I had picked out for Jordan, not that I have any clue on whether any guns other than pistols are of any use.

Uses sporting rifle ranges, is 7P/-2 Damage/AP. The magazine capacity assumes caseless ammo; reduce to 30 if you want cased ammo.

[Embers]

So if I understand correctly I'd need 2 licenses total instead of 6:

Fake License 4 (Possession - Rebecca Morris)
Fake License 4 (Concealed Carry - Rebecca Morris)

and that would cover the Sword, Assault Rifle, and Predator IV that I associated with that ID? Although I guess I wouldn't need to buy any licenses at all since I could just attach them directly to the Fake SIN since its rating 4, and the Morris ID is a 'Security Consultant' who would have a legitimate reason to have the licenses as they would be tools of her trade.

The other Predator is associated with her main SIN(Legal) (would a non-firearm such as a sword need to be associated with any ID since they are generally interchangeable and indistinguishable?)

[Kerenshara]

So if I understand correctly I'd need 2 licenses total instead of 6:

Fake License 4 (Possession - Rebecca Morris)
Fake License 4 (Concealed Carry - Rebecca Morris)

and that would cover the Sword, Assault Rifle, and Predator IV that I associated with that ID? Although I guess I wouldn't need to buy any licenses at all since I could just attach them directly to the Fake SIN since its rating 4, and the Morris ID is a 'Security Consultant' who would have a legitimate reason to have the licenses as they would be tools of her trade.

The other Predator is associated with her main SIN(Legal) (would a non-firearm such as a sword need to be associated with any ID since they are generally interchangeable and indistinguishable?)

OK, here's the rub:

If the item is registered to two IDs, it's a good idea for both to be fake, neh? Generally, guns aren't registered by serial number unless they're "F" availability.

[Kerenshara]

The damage codes for the Praetor are 4P/-2, and for the 5-7C are 4P/-1.

Heavy pistol range if longer than listed.

[Embers]

She wouldn't be registering anything to two IDs, she has two Predator IVs, one registered to each ID. Unless you were talking about the sword? If its the sword I can just buy a second easy enough.

[Kerenshara]

Sword just needed a check when purchased, no serial number to register.

[DigitalOYABUN]

please excuse my absence. I got the flu and has run me down. I'm better now after two bags of IV, but i'm going sleep a bit and post in the morning.

[JoelHalpern]

JoelHalpern ____ / Mach / Male / Troll / Knife Fighter / Adept / Heavy Weapons

I have him pretty well worked out, with a few details to check, including seeing how badly the gear cost gets out of whack, which will determine whether he ends up with Synaptic Boosters 2, or just 1.

[Marwynn]

My Magigger has shifted slightly from combat to support.

I can't help but use up a lot of the Karma for extra spells. So if you have any special requests for spells, let me know. I may already have it, but he's there to help you out.

I just need to squeeze in a Sustaining Health Focus for Improved Reflexes since I can't fit an IP increaser with my already 1.0 essence devoted to 'ware.

Lots of Technical skills too. Oh, Kerenshara, if he has Arcana 3 can he create some unique spells? I'm thinking of a few Rigger-specific ones I wanna try out. (Like some kind of Limited Physical Barrier that destroys RFIDs of all kinds for smuggling/stealing stuff.)

[Kerenshara]

Oh, Kerenshara, if he has Arcana 3 can he create some unique spells? I'm thinking of a few Rigger-specific ones I wanna try out. (Like some kind of Limited Physical Barrier that destroys RFIDs of all kinds for smuggling/stealing stuff.)

We can talk about it, but you can't target a specific PART of another object with an area spell generally. Pulse already does that...

[pbangarth]

We can talk about it, but you can't target a specific PART of another object with an area spell generally. Pulse already does that...

There's also Interference. Stardust has that.

[pbangarth]

Here's the character sheet for Stardust. Background material will follow, with descriptions of contacts.

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Stardust

Karma cost is expressed {XX}, acquisitions with extra 50 Karma are in italics.

{750} at chargen + {50} after

Basics

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Human Male Chaos Magician
Chaos Magic
Combat:fire
Detection:air
Health:earth
Illusion:man
Manipulation:water
Drain:LOG+WIL
Mentor Spirit:Adversary
+2 Counterspelling, +2 Manipulation, issues with authority

Qualities {0}

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Magician {30}
Mentor Spirit (Adversary) {10}
College Education {10}
Restricted Gear {10}
Perceptive(1) {10}
Spirit Bane (Beast) {-20}
Lost Loved One {-10}
Prejudiced (Common, Biased) {-20}
(corporate representatives)
SINner {-10}
Pacifist (1) {-10}

Attributes {255}

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BOD 4 {27}
AGI 4 {27}
REA 4 {27}
STR 3 {15}
CHA 4 {27}
INT 4 {27}
LOG 6 {60}
WIL 5 {42}
INI 8 (1 IP)

Special Attributes {114}

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EDG 5 {36}
ESS 6
MAG 7 {81}

Initiations {11 + 13 = 24}

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Grade 1 -- ordeal: Thesis {11}
Shielding
Grade 2 -- ordeal: Thesis {13}
Absorption

Active Skills {224 + 4 =228}

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Spellcasting 4 {22}
(manipulation) (+2) {2}
Counterspelling 4 {22}
(combat) (+2) {2}
Summoning 3 {14}
(water spirit) (+2) {2}
Binding 3 {14}
(water spirit) (+2) {2}
Banishing 1 {4}
Arcana 2 {8}
(spell design: manipulation) (+2) {2}
Enchanting 2 {8}
(alchemy) (+2) {2}
Assensing 3 (+1) {14}
(aura reading) (+2) {2}
Perception 3 (+1) {14}
Dodge 2 {8}
(ranged attacks) (+2) {2}
Pistol 1 {4}
(semi-automatics) (+2) {2}
Infiltration 2 {8}
First Aid 3 {14}
Medicine 1 {4}
Data Search 2 {8}
Mechanic Group 2 {20}
Etiquette 2 {8}
Con 2 {8}
Pilot Aircraft 1 {4}
Pilot Aerospace 1 {4}

Knowledge Skills (66 Karma points free) {0}

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English N
Japanese 1
Spanish 1
Cree 3
French 2
Arabic 1
Chinese 1
Magical Theory 4(5)
Engineering 3(4)
Physics 1(2)
Mathematics 2(3)
Biology 3(4)
Astronomy 1(2)
Parabiology 1(2)
Late 20^th century glam rock 1
Toronto Street Gangs 1
Toronto Music Scene 1
Seattle Music Scene 1
UCAS to Quebec Smuggling Routes 1
UCAS to Algonkian-Manitou Smuggling Routes 1

Spells {40 + 30 = 70}

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Heal
Increase Reflexes
Improved Invisibility
Interference
Levitate
Reinforce
Powerball
Mana Static
Vehicle Mask
Astral Armor
Stunbolt
Resist Pain
Magic Fingers
Fashion

Contacts {31}

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Seattle Fixer 4 Connections/1 Loyalty
University of Toronto Magic Professor 2/3
Retired Space Shuttle Pilot 1/5

Focus Bonding {18}

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Shielding Focus (2) {12}
Sustaining Focus (3) {6}
(health)

Gear 100,000 nuyen {40}

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Shielding Focus (2)
Sustaining Focus (3)
Spacesuit 6/8
(added radiation shielding (6))
armor jacket 8/6
Zoé Executive Suit 6/2
(long jacket, shirt, trousers)
PPP shin guards 0/+1, forearm guards 0/+1
Medkit (6)
Supplies X 5
Stim Patch (6) X 4
Tranq Patch (6) X 4
Transys Avalon Commlink R4/S4
Novatech Navi OS F3/S4
Magic Lodge (7)
Binding Materials (F4) X 1
Binding Materials (F3) X 1
Middle Lifestyle X 1 mth
Fake SIN (4)
Fake SIN (3)
Fake License (4)
(Ares Predator IV)
Ammo X 70
Goggles
(image link, flash comp, smartlink,
vision enhancement (3), vision magnification,
low-light)
Micro-transceiver (6)
Sub-vocal mic
Survival Kit
Toolkit X 4
(for each Mechanic)
Assaying Toolkit

Bound Spirits {20}

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F6 Water Spirit (weather control, elemental attack) 4 services {8}
F6 Earth Spirit (concealment, confusion) 2 services {4}
F6 Man Spirit (innate spell improved invisibility, innate spell armor) 2 services {4}
F6 Fire Spirit (fear, guard) 2 services {4}

EDIT: fixed count in Knowledge Skills 26 Oct 09

[milk ducks]

Lookin' like I'm the only mundane character. Awesome.

-milk.

[ravensoracle]

I'm playing a mundane as well. I could get a more flexible skillset by making him a mundane with ware than an adept plus I am working out his background and a mundane seems to fit along better with my thought process.

[Marwynn]

I was going to play a mundane as well, Magic eats up a LOT of karma. But magical support was needed so I figure I'd try out an old character concept.

The spell I'm thinking of is Physical Barrier but with the Limited Target modifier. The LOS only applies to creating the wall itself, not the things that would impact the Barrier.

The Demolish-line of spells have that problem, it seems. You can create a Demolish RFID area effect spell but some claim that you'll need LOS specifically at an RFID to cast it and destroy it, rather than a target that may possess one or several.

I'll whip up some spells if you don't mind, and see what you think of them.

[BlueMax]

* Screen Name _____ / Character Name / Gender / Race / Main Role / Special ______ / Secondary Role
* BlueMax ________ / Orb __________ / Male __/ Troll / B & E ____ / Technomancer / Driver______

[Karoline]

Just a quick note on stardust peter, you gave him 66 free karma for knowledge skills, but I only count 60 points worth.

[Kerenshara]

The spell I'm thinking of is Physical Barrier but with the Limited Target modifier. The LOS only applies to creating the wall itself, not the things that would impact the Barrier.

"Limited Target" could be a complete target like: cars, metahumans (generally or by subrace), Comlinks, Bladed Weapons and so forth. But you I would say that you couldn't do things like Brains, Cyberware, Eyeballs, Genitalia, Etc. So the only way Limited Physical Barrier: RFID tags would work is against stand-alone tags, say on a roll of stickers that hadn't been applied yet, or that had been blown as an aerosol onto somebody (as a "vacuum" essentially), but once INTEGRATED into an item, they are CONSIDERED that item. This, Limited Physical Barrier: Cybereyes would not work on IMPLANTED cybereyes because they are "metahuman" once implanted. Same thing for targeting the "Brain" since it's a part of the whole. A Focus can be targeted because though it is attuned to a person, it always remains a separate physical device.

Make sense? This is how it is conceptualized and it's always worked that way going way back. In fact, I would say that Limited Physical Barrier: Metahumans wouldn't work against somebody fully enclosed inside a vehicle or container, but WOULD work agains somebody in a convertible (with the top down) or a motorcycle.

The Demolish-line of spells have that problem, it seems. You can create a Demolish RFID area effect spell but some claim that you'll need LOS specifically at an RFID to cast it and destroy it, rather than a target that may possess one or several.

This is subject to the same limitations listed above. A camera, while mounted to a wall, is still a camera, so you could Demolish the camera. If the RFID is visible (pretty tiny) on the surface of something (as opposed to integrated internally) then your spell would work fine. If for some reason, there was an external RFID label, like we're seeing a lot of today as rhey are introduced, that label is intended as a carrier for the RFID, so it would COUNT as an RFID. Actually, in that case, I'd say even the wrapper got toasted by the spell.

That help?

I'll whip up some spells if you don't mind, and see what you think of them.

You're welcomd to do so, I will have a look at whatever you come up with.

[Kerenshara]

OK, so of 10 interested parties (still missing detailed info on a few):

Race
3 Humans
0 Dwarves
2 Orks
1 Elf
2 Trolls
2 Unspecified

Gender
2 Females
4 Males
4 Unspecified

Magic / Resonance
2 Mundanes
2 Adepts
2 Mystic Adepts
2 Magicians
1 Technomancer
1 Unspecified

Roles
Healing would appear to be a hole for the moment.
You're still light on decking, generally, from what I've been given.
You're excellent in close combat and passable in ranged combat.
You seem to have transport covered for now.
You've got infiltration and B&E pretty well covered.
You should be AOK in the Face department.
You could use a scrounger, though one of the generalists may have that set.
You could use a Build & Repair person, though one of the generalists may have that set.