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> So who's your favorite Bad Guy corporation?, ...And why!
darthmord
post Oct 28 2009, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Oct 26 2009, 05:11 PM) *
All the corporations offer fertile ground to tread upon but some of my favorites

Ares: I see Damien Knight and by extension Ares and especially Knight Errant as modern day crusaders. He believes whole heartedly he is going to save the world from the bugs, and if need be the horrors if they come knocking in his lifetime. Unfortunately the necessities of that mission means Ares look at the big picture allows them to internally justify many many things that are otherwise reprehensible.

Aztechnology - Even if the Azzies are no longer actively trying to bring back the world they are still hevily invested in blood magic and anything else that allows them to stay on top. This plus their reputation for absolutely ruthlessly persuing people that hurt them make them very dangerous opponents for shadowrunners. I make sure that my runners know, if they work against the Azzies and get sloppy the Azzies may very well track them down.


I'm with you here. I see Ares as being Stark Enterprises without a Tony Stark that had a change of heart. The resemblances otherwise are simply too striking to be a coincidence IMO.

Aztechnology... they are some supremely evil bastards bent on total annihilation and destruction. Any game I've run where they were involved, I always gave them an extra push in the retribution & retaliation department. They didn't take lip from anyone and were always willing to push the envelope on evil and payback.
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post Oct 28 2009, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 26 2009, 06:55 PM) *
There you go again Orcus, Spouting that Ork Hype...

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So how is that orbital manufacture going? Read any good corporate indoctrination manuals lately?
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post Oct 28 2009, 08:41 PM
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I will tweek it it the group really... I've seen group where the Dunk institute or similar "nearly painted white" corps would be the big aversary... not the bad guys, that was the PC's, they were BAD people.

The Azzies are my personal favorite bogie man, but thats mostly because I like the magic system and they are the magic version of "The Man". I can drop any kind magic at the drop of a hat, have the mage wearing vaugly Aztec marking and now the PC's have desided it was a blood mage with Aztecnology. It is such fun to watch the panic.

For overall "Plot Villan" though I stick with Ares. Why? Cause I run my games in Seattle mostly, in the UCAS generally and in the UCAS Ares is THE corp, not the only one for sure, but it's their home turf. This is cyberpunk.. ok so I run a cyberpunk game... and the big bad man over you is, in the long term, the real villian. No matter how much he hires you he is there to off you because you are the liability once all the dice have been tossed and all the heads counted.

Beware the hand that feeds. And remember to dam* the man.
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post Oct 29 2009, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (Orcus Blackweather @ Oct 28 2009, 12:33 PM) *
So how is that orbital manufacture going? Read any good corporate indoctrination manuals lately?


Not too bad, and not lately... Still working on breaking out and returning to earth... gotta hate those Mitsuhama orbital prison facilities...

Hey Orcus, Break many Mirrors with that face of yours?

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post Oct 29 2009, 01:36 AM
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The Azzies ( for all the priorly mentioned reasons) Wuxing... what can I say , to me its a new toy. Yametesu......oh sorry, Evo for so many reasons. Also, strangely, Boeing. Used to work for 'em, maybey I'm just petty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Oct 29 2009, 01:52 AM
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Aztechnology is too easy to use. Honestly. Like fish in a barrel.

I'm using Ares a lot more these days. Their bug experiments are too reminiscent of Weyland-Yutani (the original COMPANY) not to abuse them.

Re: Horizon. Maybe I'm not reading as much into canon as I used to. But why is everyone so dark on Horizon?! I don't get it. I've heard rumors of AIs to Bugs. Do people truly believe that Horizon is a large public front for the bugs?

- J.
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post Oct 29 2009, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE (The Jake @ Oct 28 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Re: Horizon. Maybe I'm not reading as much into canon as I used to. But why is everyone so dark on Horizon?! I don't get it. I've heard rumors of AIs to Bugs. Do people truly believe that Horizon is a large public front for the bugs?

- J.

Not really, or, at least I don't believe they're bugs. However, this being Shadowrun, there's no way in hell that any corporation could really be that 'good'. They've got to be up to something. And, conspiracy theory logic being what it is, people think that the harder Horizon's 'something' is to find, the worse it must be.

I don't know about anyone else, but, I just feel there is something seriously WrongTM with Horizon. Maybe it's just the "We're your friends and we're here to help you"/"Look, we're not like the others" attitude they project, but I don't think so. I can't put my finger on what it is, but they're up to something. The fact that everyone outside the shadows, and many in the shadows, buys their bullshit just makes it more insidious.

Dear lord, I'm starting to sound like one of those conspiracy theory nutjobs myself... Damn you Adam Jury, you did this to me, it's all your fault, introducing a 'nice' corporation, shame on you keeping me in the dark this way, you had to know this would happen, my paranoia level is going through the roof... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Oct 29 2009, 02:48 AM
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Ares. Today, tomorrow and forever.

I play a character who is, secretly, deeply involved with Ares Corporation. As i result i did ALOT of digging to find out what Ares was all about when writing my character's bio and i am certain Ares is a pretty "bad guy."

I mean there are the companies out there that are just pure evil or you can trace their roots back to evil. For example Mitsuhama Computer Technologies started out as a laundering business for the Yakuza and Aztechnology is real into recreating the Aztec culture all the way down to Blood Magic and human sacrifice.

But Ares is different. It claims to exemplify the "mom's baked apple pie" view of America by propagandizing that it is wholly and undeniably an American company. True it caters to the American public but it has its hands in too many things for us not to be worried, how about the deadly combination of Ares Arms, Ares Space, and Knight Errant? I mean, come on, they are seriously military oriented and have quite possibly the largest and most well equipped loyal corporate security force on the planet. It would take little effort for ares to start a Global war, one that is gretly in their favor too. One cannot afford to ignore them and not keep a close watch on them.

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post Oct 31 2009, 03:40 AM
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Heh-heh, Maybe they are secretly the real MIB in Shadowrun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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post Oct 31 2009, 04:42 AM
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QUOTE (Blackb1rd @ Oct 28 2009, 10:48 PM) *
Ares. Today, tomorrow and forever.

I play a character who is, secretly, deeply involved with Ares Corporation. As i result i did ALOT of digging to find out what Ares was all about when writing my character's bio and i am certain Ares is a pretty "bad guy."

I mean there are the companies out there that are just pure evil or you can trace their roots back to evil. For example Mitsuhama Computer Technologies started out as a laundering business for the Yakuza and Aztechnology is real into recreating the Aztec culture all the way down to Blood Magic and human sacrifice.

But Ares is different. It claims to exemplify the "mom's baked apple pie" view of America by propagandizing that it is wholly and undeniably an American company. True it caters to the American public but it has its hands in too many things for us not to be worried, how about the deadly combination of Ares Arms, Ares Space, and Knight Errant? I mean, come on, they are seriously military oriented and have quite possibly the largest and most well equipped loyal corporate security force on the planet. It would take little effort for ares to start a Global war, one that is gretly in their favor too. One cannot afford to ignore them and not keep a close watch on them.


Also since they are the premiere military supplier odds are the products they sell have some sort of backdoor they can exploit for their benefit. It may seem unlikely, but they can wrap it in copyright laws and 'your warranty will be void if this seal is broken' stuff all over their gear. The military drones you think are under your command may suddenly turn around and start shooting you.

Further conspiracy mode: the reason they haven't done so is that it's their giant ace in the sleeve. Why reveal that against 'runners and the like when world domination is a far better goal.

Just in a conspiratorial mood is all.

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post Oct 31 2009, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 30 2009, 11:42 PM) *
Also since they are the premiere military supplier odds are the products they sell have some sort of backdoor they can exploit for their benefit. It may seem unlikely, but they can wrap it in copyright laws and 'your warranty will be void if this seal is broken' stuff all over their gear. The military drones you think are under your command may suddenly turn around and start shooting you.

Further conspiracy mode: the reason they haven't done so is that it's their giant ace in the sleeve. Why reveal that against 'runners and the like when world domination is a far better goal.

Just in a conspiratorial mood is all.

Always check the programming yourself... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Oct 31 2009, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (Tachi @ Oct 30 2009, 10:52 PM) *
Always check the programming yourself... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)



Exactly...
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