 Whatever Happened to Captain Chaos? |
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  Nov 1 2009, 09:04 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 557 Joined: 26-July 09 From: Kent, WA Member No.: 17,426  |
I was really excited to see the 4th Ed books kept the Shadowtalk sections, and I was pumped to see old man Fastjack was still running the show. Love that guy. He said something that caught me off-guard, though: He said Captain Chaos wasn't around anymore. This has been kind of kicking me in the gut every time I flip though old 2nd ed sourcebooks. Is there an official finale for Cap, or is he just MIA?
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Nov 1 2009, 09:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 337 Joined: 1-September 06 From: LI, New York Member No.: 9,286 |
QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Nov 1 2009, 05:04 PM)  I was really excited to see the 4th Ed books kept the Shadowtalk sections, and I was pumped to see old man Fastjack was still running the show. Love that guy. He said something that caught me off-guard, though: He said Captain Chaos wasn't around anymore. This has been kind of kicking me in the gut every time I flip though old 2nd ed sourcebooks. Is there an official finale for Cap, or is he just MIA? IIRC he died in the matrix crash of 65' - 66' At least I think it was around that time... don't remember the exact date. And don't have my books with me to check. |
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Nov 1 2009, 09:10 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
Official story is that he died in Crash 2.0 trying to hold down the Shadownet, but his mind was preserved as a digital backup by a piece of tech big D left him in the will. Now he's basically an AI sequestered up in the Dunkelzahn Institute research labs.
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Nov 1 2009, 11:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 704 Joined: 20-November 06 From: The seemingly unknown area of land between Seattle and Idaho. Member No.: 9,910 |
JackBnimble,
JackBquick, Jack put us on, an E-ghost ship. |
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Nov 2 2009, 12:09 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that's the best When I lay me down to die Goin' up to the node in the sky Goin' up to the node in the sky That's where I'm gonna go when I die When I die and they lay me to rest Gonna go to the place that's the best Prepare yourself you know it's a must Gotta have a friend in Dragon-Jesus So you know that when you die He's gonna recommend you To the node in the sky Gonna recommend you To the node in the sky That's where you're gonna go when you die When you die and they lay you to rest You're gonna go to the place that's the best Never been a SINner I never SINned I got a friend in Dragon-Jesus So you know that when I die He's gonna set me up with The node in the sky Oh set me up with the node in the sky That's where I'm gonna go when I die When I die and they lay me to rest I'm gonna go to the place that's the best Go to the place that's the best |
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Nov 2 2009, 02:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 304 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 17,812 |
QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Nov 1 2009, 04:04 PM) I was really excited to see the 4th Ed books kept the Shadowtalk sections, and I was pumped to see old man Fastjack was still running the show. Love that guy. He said something that caught me off-guard, though: He said Captain Chaos wasn't around anymore. This has been kind of kicking me in the gut every time I flip though old 2nd ed sourcebooks. Is there an official finale for Cap, or is he just MIA? Like all good captains, he went down with his ship. would that we were all so noble. |
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Nov 2 2009, 03:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Nov 1 2009, 10:10 PM) Official story is that he died in Crash 2.0 trying to hold down the Shadownet, but his mind was preserved as a digital backup by a piece of tech big D left him in the will. Now he's basically an AI sequestered up in the Dunkelzahn Institute research labs. I thought he was an undead machine buddha in a Hong Kong temple. |
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Nov 2 2009, 03:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 557 Joined: 26-July 09 From: Kent, WA Member No.: 17,426 |
QUOTE (Hagga @ Nov 1 2009, 08:40 PM) I thought he was an undead machine buddha in a Hong Kong temple. CALVIN: What do you think happens when you die? HOBBES: I think you play saxophone in an all-girl cabaret in New Orleans. <beat> CALVIN: So you believe in Heaven? HOBBES: Call it what you like. |
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Nov 2 2009, 04:12 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Yeah I have hopes of seeing him come back someday, as a free AI or maybe with a new body once they get the Resurection Ships back on line. oops wrong genre.
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Nov 2 2009, 04:13 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 30-September 09 From: Portland, Tir Tairngire Member No.: 17,691 |
QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Nov 1 2009, 01:10 PM) Official story is that he died in Crash 2.0 trying to hold down the Shadownet, but his mind was preserved as a digital backup by a piece of tech big D left him in the will. Now he's basically an AI sequestered up in the Dunkelzahn Institute research labs. Ahhh... a nod to McCoy Paulie, perhaps? Anybody have a street sammy named Molly that could spring him? |
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Nov 2 2009, 04:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 557 Joined: 26-July 09 From: Kent, WA Member No.: 17,426 |
QUOTE (erik @ Nov 1 2009, 09:13 PM) Ahhh... a nod to McCoy Paulie, perhaps? Anybody have a street sammy named Molly that could spring him? Good luck...the Panther Moderns don't work cheap. |
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Nov 2 2009, 04:28 AM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Nov 1 2009, 10:16 PM) Good luck...the Panther Moderns don't work cheap. They don't work for New Yen either. but if you it right you might tickle their fancy. |
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Nov 2 2009, 04:51 AM
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QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Nov 1 2009, 01:10 PM) Official story is that he died in Crash 2.0 trying to hold down the Shadownet, but his mind was preserved as a digital backup by a piece of tech big D left him in the will. Now he's basically an AI sequestered up in the Dunkelzahn Institute research labs. Which is, more-or-less, what Big D stipulated in his will- that the good Captain be taken care of should the aforementioned tech do something to him. |
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Nov 2 2009, 12:08 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM) CALVIN: What do you think happens when you die? HOBBES: I think you play saxophone in an all-girl cabaret in New Orleans. <beat> CALVIN: So you believe in Heaven? HOBBES: Call it what you like. <3 Come back to us Watterson. |
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Nov 2 2009, 12:34 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Nov 1 2009, 10:10 PM) Official story is that he died in Crash 2.0 trying to hold down the Shadownet, but his mind was preserved as a digital backup by a piece of tech big D left him in the will. Now he's basically an AI sequestered up in the Dunkelzahn Institute research labs. technically the book goes neither way about what happens with the backup... the last bits of text are basically: DELETE? (Y/N) with no definitive Y or N... btw, i think the matrix phenomena chapter of unwired played around with that, when talking about e-ghosts. The shadowtalk have a entry from fastjack talking about going to visit a old friends grave... |
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Nov 2 2009, 12:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
It is mentioned in a book, though, that someone "claims to have run into CC in a DIMR node." They were banned from Shadowsea for it. And we all know everything in the chat section of the book is 100% true.
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Nov 2 2009, 01:18 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
IIRC (don't have System Failure handy atm)...
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Nov 2 2009, 01:38 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
not quite, darthmord. close, but not quite...
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Nov 2 2009, 02:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 2-August 06 Member No.: 9,006 |
I really like that Shadowrun kills its Old Guard off slowly, and gets its chance to build replacements, and even have continuity between someone and their replacement(FastJack and Cap were friends, Picador was Matador's second in command, Frosty is Harlequin's daughter, etc), unlike how Battletech is "Let's kill everyone off! um..who are we going to replace them with?" Seriously, Shadowrun has adapted better to a lack of novels then Battletech has...
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Nov 2 2009, 04:15 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE Frosty is Harlequin's daughter from one white face to another (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) oh, and a suspect old clownface is still out there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 2 2009, 06:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 206 Joined: 29-September 09 Member No.: 17,687 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 2 2009, 11:15 AM) from one white face to another (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) oh, and a suspect old clownface is still out there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Actually, Frosty is Erhan's daughter but only Harlequin knows it. |
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Nov 2 2009, 07:10 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
those elfs and their complicated family bonds... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)
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Nov 2 2009, 08:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 2-January 07 From: He has here a minute ago... Member No.: 10,514 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 2 2009, 03:10 PM) those elfs and their complicated family bonds... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) Thank Dragon-Jesus that Shadowrun lacks the fan fiction community of certain anime, or a comment like that would flood the net with a deluge of mind vomit. I do miss Capt., and hope to get some closure or plot at some point, but I agree that things are handled well in 4th ed. Some interesting characters have been introduced and older characters developed. The game has a different feel, but that isn't a bad thing. I know Emergence just happened, but I would love a big plot line dealing with the matrix and Resonance. I have some ideas along those lines that I'm hoping to spring on some players soon. |
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Nov 2 2009, 09:37 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (otakusensei @ Nov 2 2009, 09:53 PM) Thank Dragon-Jesus that Shadowrun lacks the fan fiction community of certain anime, or a comment like that would flood the net with a deluge of mind vomit. heh, fanfiction in general makes me ponder some very freudian topics about the writers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 2 2009, 10:19 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 2 2009, 05:37 PM) heh, fanfiction in general makes me ponder some very freudian topics about the writers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) The writers? What about the readers? |
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