 Turrent availability, rant about turrnet availabilities |
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 Feb 2 2004, 05:47 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 1-January 04 Member No.: 5,948  |
I was looking through the turrent available in the Rigger 3 Revised book and I noticed the parts for adding turrents to vehicles are virtually impossible to get a hold of. Mini turrents are the easiest to get ahold of and they have an availability of 13. Remote turrents are even worse, with a basic mico turrent having an parts availability of 17. It is far easier to simply get a hold of a Steel Lynx Ground Combat Drone (and with an availability of 8, even accessible to starting characters (though I would much rather mount a anti-aircraft pop-up turrent on a Ferret). I think turrents should be a little easier to come by, at least for , at least mini and micro remote turrnets, considering I could probably get the parts at Radio Shack.
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Feb 2 2004, 05:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153 |
In the immortal words of Blackjack... if you don't like the rule in the book, change it. ;)
I do agree. I think the availability is far out of whack and I dropped them by 4, if I remember correctly. |
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Feb 2 2004, 06:47 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
There IS NO F$@#1&G "N" in the word "TURRET".
There is NO NO F$@#1&G word as "turreNt". Stop raping the english language. This one of the most common and annoying misspellings for a two syllable word I have ever seen in my life. [edit] sorry [/edit] |
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Feb 2 2004, 06:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153 |
And BitBasher needs to lay off the sugar and caffeine. ;) :D |
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Feb 2 2004, 06:58 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It's common?
At least written language doesn't have people adding a T to the word chess. ~J |
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Feb 2 2004, 07:06 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Sorry... sorry...
Playing online games, specifically SubSpace, where 80% of the playerbase misspelled the word and honestly didn't know the difference, it got to me after a while. |
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Feb 2 2004, 07:08 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Oh, and to nitpick, your double-negative sentence up there states that there is a word "turrent". :)
~J |
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Feb 2 2004, 07:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153 |
ROTFL, and your use of commas needs to be reduced. ;) :D |
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Feb 2 2004, 07:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 1-January 04 Member No.: 5,948 |
My apiologies. That would explain why I could not find any posts about them. Though it might have been more constructive if you expressed your frustration in a slightly more polite method. Some of us are not as blessed as you with perfect scribal talent. |
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Feb 2 2004, 07:26 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Yeah, cause the whole "Oh and to nitpick" part is a separate utterance.
I always thought the Finnish rules for punctuation were difficult, but English has like 150 pages worth of stuff on just how to use a comma correctly. You guys need to do something about your language in the near future, or else the rest of the world will. With a very small part of the world's population living in countries where English is the main language, but everyone being "forced" to use it, it's going to get simplified over time, whether you native speakers like it or not. The word turret is safe, however. There's no way it can be misspelled turrent if you think about it at all. Back to topic: The availability of turret-related stuff should be really high. Turrets aren't exactly common on the street. I challenge you to find a non-military vehicle that has a turret in it. If it's a ground vehicle, it must also be unarmored. Of course in Shadowrun, where they are so fricken useful, everyone would want one which would reduce the availability. And everything in the ~10 range is already really hard to get at. So if it came up in my games, I'd probably drop the availabilities to ~9 and 11. |
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Feb 2 2004, 07:29 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
Well, comma rules aren't too bad once you get used to them.
Like, you know? They're there when on both sides when you can eliminate the part of the sentence without destroying the overall meaning, or when you would take a breath while speaking it. Anyways, my group normally steals their stuff, so that's not much of a problem. Although I would keep the availability. It's not like it's really easy to make one "fall off the truck", if you get my meaning. Crazy Finns. The language becomes more complex the more people that speak it. It used to be a nice Germanic tounge until the Frogs invaded in 1066. Then we Americans got a hold of it, and it adopted worlds from all over the English empire. |
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Feb 2 2004, 07:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 1-January 04 Member No.: 5,948 |
But it's not like you'd be looking for a "plug and play" turret. You could go out and buy a mechanical arm and pretty have all the parts you need to make a micro or mini turret, except the housing (which would be the easy part).
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Feb 2 2004, 07:54 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The "oh," was an exclaimation that I decided didn't have enough weight for an exclaimation point. My use of and to continue from there is questionable, but I believe my comma was correct.
We really do have strange discussions here, don't we? :D ~J |
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Feb 2 2004, 08:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 1-January 04 Member No.: 5,948 |
::begins singing::
"Interjections (Hey!) Show excitement, (Yow!) Or emotion. (Ouch!) They're generally set apart from a sentence By an exclamation point, Or by a comma when the feeling's not as strong." ah yes, Schoolhouse Rock was da bomb! |
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Feb 2 2004, 08:18 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Well, Bit did apologize -- and I was still trying to figure out what a turrent was anyway...:grinbig:
-Siege |
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Feb 2 2004, 09:00 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
That'd be great. Unfortunately this is not the case. At least people in Oxford University seem to disagree, but I'd take up on any offer to disagree with those SOBs. If the line in question is said in such a way that the "Oh" is clearly a separate exclamation, then I guess you're right. (Don't try to go over the punctuation in my messages though, I know it's all wrong.)
In some ways this may be true. I doubt it is the case with grammar, however. For example, I do not think the grammar of either American or British English has become significantly more complex over the past 90 years, even though the amount of speakers (native and non-native) has risen dramatically. Anyway, most of the stuff I learn about English is from native speaker lecturers, so you can't blame Finland for everything. :P
I guess you could consider the Parts Availability to be exclusive to turret parts and meant for that express purpose. If you aren't that picky, you could use other, similar parts that have lower Availability, at the cost of a higher TN and base time to do the modification. |
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Feb 2 2004, 09:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 1-January 04 Member No.: 5,948 |
Yes, sort of like having the ability to scrounge and jury rig things.
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Feb 2 2004, 09:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 12-August 03 From: Sulphur, Louisiana Member No.: 5,418 |
I over use commas all the time. I make them my bitches.
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Feb 2 2004, 10:51 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
That comment would be more appropriate with at least one comma. |
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Feb 3 2004, 12:32 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I over use commas all the time. I make them, my bitches.
~J |
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Feb 3 2004, 12:34 AM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Almost, but, not, quite correct.
^^ Comma use as taught by Captain James T Kirk :D |
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Feb 3 2004, 12:58 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
Just watch me. ;) |
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Feb 3 2004, 01:39 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Quick! Mount hostilities! Make them Finlandize!
~J |
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Feb 3 2004, 04:53 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Sorry, I couldn't get past the whole "Mounting Hostilities" imagery...:grinbig: -Siege |
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Feb 3 2004, 11:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 1-April 02 From: Finland, Iisalmi Member No.: 2,497 |
Pray tell, what is Finlandizing? :D |
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