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[sqir666]

So I was perusing the Big D's Will and found this,"To the corporations and governments of the world, I leave the formula for an infant vaccination that should be administered to all children born after 31 October 2060. "

So the qeustion remains what happened on Halloween in 2060?

[Ancient History]

Nada. The vaccine was destroyed. Didn't you get the memo?

[Stahlseele]

It was laced with Dragon-Blood.
So some humanis jerks who want pure blooded humans destroyed it.
The Story was more or less detailed in one of the Novels.
The one with the police dog shapeshifter and the Jane Doe Elf-woman who could not remember stuff for more than some hours . .

[sqir666]

It was laced with Dragon-Blood.
So some humanis jerks who want pure blooded humans destroyed it.
The Story was more or less detailed in one of the Novels.
The one with the police dog shapeshifter and the Jane Doe Elf-woman who could not remember stuff for more than some hours . .

Really? I hate it when I miss things like that.


Stupid Humanis who knows what it supposed to help against.

[Ancient History]

Well, on the bright side Lofwyr thought it was going to turn people into a draconic servitor race.

[Orcus Blackweath...]

I can't really think of any reason a dragon would want to be helpful. The very best you can hope for is that whatever he decided to do to all of humanity with this serum was not especially harmful to us. Since he basically planned his own death, and his return (or that is my belief), looking at the long road is entirely something I would expect from him.

[Mordinvan]

Well, on the bright side Lofwyr thought it was going to turn people into a draconic servitor race.

Ok, but this doesn't explain why Lofwyr would have wanted to prevent this. As a dragon a new servitor race would come in handy, no? Also considering it would consist of an entire generation of humanity that would be a lot of servants, and since servants add to one's power base, and dragons seem to like power, I don't understand why he would have prevented such a thing.

[sqir666]

I can't really think of any reason a dragon would want to be helpful.

Just because some of the Great Dragons are complete asses to metahumanity, doesn't mean that all of them are.

There are several Greats running around playing nice with us in the 6th world.

[Nath]

As a dragon a new servitor race would come in handy, no? Also considering it would consist of an entire generation of humanity that would be a lot of servants, and since servants add to one's power base, and dragons seem to like power, I don't understand why he would have prevented such a thing.

Lofwyr got to be number two among the Great Dragons because he understands humans better than most of his peers do (with the noteworthy exception of Dunkelzahn). Turning the whole human race into draconic puppets would make him lose this edge.

[Stahlseele]

Also, they would probably not have been HIS servitors, but the big D's.
Now imagine a Dragon seeing another Dragon appearantly planning to turn 1 Billion People on his side . .

[Traul]

So Big D. resorted to plan B instead: he hired a bunch of writers to create an RPG picturing him as the nice guy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)

[LurkerOutThere]

Bingo, also if memory of ED crap is correct Lofwyr is more or less responsible for the IE's so he could take quite a bit of offense to Big D trying to one up him, or he may have figured that IE's were a debacle, drake's arn't much better, and decided to preserve the status quo.


Also, Big L is the number 2? Since when? Hestaby snagged the Loremaster title but I don't think she's anywhere near L in power or prestige.

[Prime Mover]

The exact date part always worried me, what was the significance of that date if any?

[Traul]

The exact date part always worried me, what was the significance of that date if any?

Just to make us believe that he can read the future. Here is the horrible truth: ALL the dates in his wills are either random or jokes.

[Nath]

Also, Big L is the number 2? Since when? Hestaby snagged the Loremaster title but I don't think she's anywhere near L in power or prestige.

As far as prestige goes among dragons (we don't care about what lower forms of life may think, don't we ?), she won the Rite of Succession, she's Number One. Besides, Hestaby let Lofwyr the Jewel of Memory and the Loremaster title.

[3278]

The Story was more or less detailed in one of the Novels.

Forever Drug, I believe.

I can't really think of any reason a dragon would want to be helpful.

It's his world, too. Dunkelzahn was always unique among his kind in terms of the pains he'd take to benefit all metahumanity, and not just himself. ED and SR are full of references to this; he was basically the one "really nice to people" Great Dragon.

Bingo, also if memory of ED crap is correct Lofwyr is more or less responsible for the IE's so he could take quite a bit of offense to Big D trying to one up him, or he may have figured that IE's were a debacle, drake's arn't much better, and decided to preserve the status quo.

My impression is that the first Children of Dragons [IEs] were created by Lofwyr's brother, Alamais, in the 2nd world. This proved quite useful, and more-or-less everyone who could do it, did do it. Then Alamais' number one chica decided she didn't like slavery, and rebelled, leaving him a scar he still bears. Dragons outlawed the practice, but this didn't stop certain Greats from creating more children, some elven, some dwarven, some human, during the early 4th world.

Icewing* [now Ghostwalker], however, disdaining the usage of metahuman slaves, created the Dance of the Blue Spirits, which created Drakes, much more closely bonded to their Dragon patron. This proved much more popular, and this technique has persisted until modern times. Dragons seem to love this solution.

*Dunkelzahn's brother, and I believe now the oldest living being on the planet, the two of them being the oldest spawn of All-Wings, the first dragon. But this is all off the top of my head, and sometimes I get confused.

[Tsuul]

Just to make us believe that he can read the future. Here is the horrible truth: ALL the dates in his wills are either random or jokes.

Not all

To Federated Boeing, the land and mineral rights to the volcanic island that will erupt 301 kilometers due west of Petrolia on October 3rd, 2060.

The island appeared where and when Dunkelzahn claimed it would, but appeared of little interest so Federated Boeing ignored it. DUring the Year of the Comet, Wuxing and DeBeers-Omnitech squatted on the island, which proved rich in orichalcum, until Federated Boeing drove them off.

Portfolio of a Dragon: Dunkelzahn's Secrets, Year of the Comet

[ravensmuse]

The interesting thing about Dunk is that he influenced other Greats to follow up his work after him. See also Hestaby (whose motives are a lot more questionable than Dunk's) and Masaru.

I'm sorry, Dunkelzahn fanboy here, but he just seems like he was a cool guy. Cool until you ticked him off though.

[Saint Sithney]

Not all

For a period of ten days beginning on 14 February 2057, Lars J. Matthews will cease to possess any legal status.

Didn't he die in August of that year? Apparently his will indicates he planned to die months earlier...



Anyway, as to the Forever Drug, the will states that the knowledge needed to create the vaccine was to be handed out to every corp and gov on the planet. Forgive me for not digging into the related fiction, but it seems the genie is out the bottle here. How would destroying one batch stop every corp in existence from testing it out in some isolated case studies? How could any one/thing stop a corp like Universal Omnitech (whom Mountain Dunkie dropped 120 million nuyen on in his will,) from juicing an entire baby farm with this stuff? Maybe two or three baby farms just to make sure it goes down without interruption?

[Sengir]

My impression is that the first Children of Dragons [IEs] were created by Lofwyr's brother, Alamais, in the 2nd world. This proved quite useful, and more-or-less everyone who could do it, did do it. Then Alamais' number one chica decided she didn't like slavery, and rebelled, leaving him a scar he still bears. Dragons outlawed the practice, but this didn't stop certain Greats from creating more children, some elven, some dwarven, some human, during the early 4th world.

I'm not really into all this Earthdawn stuff, so this may be a stupid question...but who populated the First World if all metahumans were created by dragons? Odd numbers seem to indicate periods of low mana, so dragons as we know them would be out, right?

[Ol' Scratch]

This is just another reason why I completely and utterly ignore the novels. So full of Crap™ stories and borderline (or over the top in several cases) Mary Sues.

[Stahlseele]

Because only Jane Doe was in the Knopw.
Yes, the Elf who did not remember who put her to bed the next morning.
Who did not remember her very own name.
They interrupted a magical mind link ritual, where she tried to pass on this knowledge directly into the heads of several dozend high key scientists.
And then the Big L either ate her or took her away, i am not sure right now, been some time since i read that particular novel.

[Prime Mover]

I just remember after seeing this discussed a few weeks ago and thinking that the vaccine may have something to do with the comets arrival, It really seems to be the only thing in the time frame of any importance in the SR timeline just a year later.

[Ol' Scratch]

In all likelihood it did. He probably had a "cure" for changelings, but it only worked on the very young for whatever reason. Or maybe it was an accelerant to bring about the expression of t'skrang or other race of old from a combination of dormant genes that require far more magic and the comet's passing. Either of those would have been far more interesting to me and far more appropriate to Dunkelzahn's way of thinking than the novel crap.

Course, he actually was assassinated in my take of the setting because, frankly, the Dragonheart saga is fucking stupid. XD So to each their own I suppose. I've had way more fun creating runs and metaplot reprecussions based upon that than I ever could with the Mary Sue "ooh, look at my super awesome drake character!!!" crap.

[Kumo]

In all likelihood it did. He probably had a "cure" for changelings, but it only worked on the very young for whatever reason. Or maybe it was an accelerant to bring about the expression of t'skrang or other race of old from a combination of dormant genes that require far more magic and the comet's passing.

Very possible.

What about this: a whole "vaccine" thing was a decoy, to distract Lofwyr (and/or Humanis/corps/govs)? And then something another was done in 2060 by Draco Fundation under everybody's nose?