 Volunteer wanted for official CGL project, Anyone want to volunteer for something fun? |
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  Dec 2 2009, 10:36 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508  |
So, as some of you may know, I'm a Catalyst Game Labs person. (See the pretty icon over there?)
We're looking to get a volunteer who knows how to do a Flash Programmed Dice Roller Simulation. (I personally have the Incompetent: Computers negative quality, so seriously, I have no clue as to what that is...) Anyone who knows Flash stuff, would like a shout-out on the official SR website, and my undying gratitude (hey, that comes with homebaked chocolate chip cookies at GenCon), please PM me. Thanks! Jennifer |
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Dec 3 2009, 12:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 227 |
Any reason it has to be flash? I can think of a dozen ways to do it in Javascript / DHTML (allowing the page to easily be saved and used offline, unlike Flash) or PHP (which would be silly, but do-able if you don't want people boosting the code) but don't know Flash- mainly because it costs a lot. I'm assuming you say flash because you want some graphics bling in additio to the typical "forms and buttons" stuff, but that's not really a problem with a conventional / scripted webpage. I'm pretty good with graphics, whether creating them or using provided artwork.
BTW, I'm an old SR3 author, and have putting together a proposal, but its probably the kind of thing that would only fit in with certain products. Any way to get an update on upcoming product development, I should I just throw yah the idea and hope its good enough to trigger a "yeah, we need a book with more stuff like that"? |
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Dec 3 2009, 12:21 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 30-November 09 Member No.: 17,921 |
I don't personally know how, but I know a couple flash junkies on another forum. I'll ask them if there interested.
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Dec 3 2009, 01:17 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 10-November 08 Member No.: 16,576 |
My nephew is going to game design school and knows Flash, I'll point him over here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Since I'm co-signing his student loan he'd better think about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Dec 3 2009, 02:20 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE (Mongoose @ Dec 2 2009, 07:06 PM)  Any reason it has to be flash? Good question. I could make a java version in like... 10 minutes (I could make random numbers in like 10 seconds, but I'm guessing he wants something more than a simple random number generator) , but l'm not really familiar with flash. I could likely learn, but I figure someone who already knows it would be better for the job. |
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Dec 3 2009, 03:05 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Please tell me this is for an iPhone app. I've been real good and it's all I want for Xmas (well and Seattle 2072 but whatever).
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Dec 3 2009, 03:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
QUOTE (Method @ Dec 2 2009, 10:05 PM) Please tell me this is for an iPhone app. I've been real good and it's all I want for Xmas (well and Seattle 2072 but whatever). Iphone is not getting flash till next summer. Windows mobile has it now, and Android in 1st quarter. |
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Dec 3 2009, 04:11 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
Hmm, guess Tiger isn't checking back in on this. I'd volunteer if I could use Java, but I don't want to bother if I'll have to learn flash (Though I think it uses similar code).
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Dec 3 2009, 04:40 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 3 2009, 12:11 PM) Hmm, guess Tiger isn't checking back in on this. I'd volunteer if I could use Java, but I don't want to bother if I'll have to learn flash (Though I think it uses similar code). Learn Flash? Heh.... you'll also have to acquire the software to develop it. Adobe Flash CS4 costs over $600..... |
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Dec 3 2009, 04:41 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Dec 3 2009, 11:40 AM) Learn Flash? Heh.... you'll also have to acquire the software to develop it. Adobe Flash CS4 costs over $600..... I can get a month long trial for free. |
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Dec 3 2009, 04:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 |
QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 3 2009, 12:11 PM) Hmm, guess Tiger isn't checking back in on this. I'd volunteer if I could use Java, but I don't want to bother if I'll have to learn flash (Though I think it uses similar code). I'm here, I've been checking in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But I've been told Flash is what is wanted, and so Flash it is... |
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Dec 3 2009, 04:54 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Dec 3 2009, 11:50 AM) I'm here, I've been checking in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But I've been told Flash is what is wanted, and so Flash it is... Aww, too bad, guess I can't help out then. |
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Dec 3 2009, 05:02 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
Man,
You guys make it feel like work with all this "Why does it have to be Flash?" talk. Why do I have the strange feeling that I will be working with some of you in the future. BlueMax |
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Dec 3 2009, 05:14 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
QUOTE (Mongoose @ Dec 2 2009, 07:06 PM) Any reason it has to be flash? I can think of a dozen ways to do it in Javascript / DHTML (allowing the page to easily be saved and used offline, unlike Flash) or PHP (which would be silly, but do-able if you don't want people boosting the code) but don't know Flash- mainly because it costs a lot. I'm assuming you say flash because you want some graphics bling in additio to the typical "forms and buttons" stuff, but that's not really a problem with a conventional / scripted webpage. I'm pretty good with graphics, whether creating them or using provided artwork. BTW, I'm an old SR3 author, and have putting together a proposal, but its probably the kind of thing that would only fit in with certain products. Any way to get an update on upcoming product development, I should I just throw yah the idea and hope its good enough to trigger a "yeah, we need a book with more stuff like that"? You can always download the Flash Player from Adobe and then if you know the slightest bit about web browsing, it's trivial to grab the embedded flash applet. Once you have it saved, you merely use the flash player to run it. It's quite simple and I've done it for a flash game I like to play without having to hit the website. |
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Dec 3 2009, 05:17 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
QUOTE (Platinum @ Dec 3 2009, 07:56 AM) Iphone is not getting flash till next summer. Windows mobile has it now, and Android in 1st quarter. Damn. I can still hope tho... |
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Dec 3 2009, 05:23 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
TE:
Do you have any further details about what you want? Like do you have to see dice rolling? Or do you just want it so you enter the number of dice, and have it show the outcomes sorted? Fancy or simple? Is what I am asking. Something like? http://chromiteblue.com/archive/coding/a-flash-dice-roller/ |
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Dec 3 2009, 05:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 227 |
QUOTE (BlueMax @ Dec 3 2009, 05:02 PM) Man, You guys make it feel like work with all this "Why does it have to be Flash?" talk. Why do I have the strange feeling that I will be working with some of you in the future. BlueMax Hopefully you will. I've done some pretty big personal "web 2.0" projects (urbandead.info, sim.urbandead.info) using Javascript and PHP and am currently going to school for computer programming. If you have any leads on internships (which I was hoping I could use this for, but alas, I don't do Flash) I'd love to hear about them. QUOTE (darthmord @ Dec 3 2009, 05:14 PM) You can always download the Flash Player from Adobe and then if you know the slightest bit about web browsing, it's trivial to grab the embedded flash applet. Once you have it saved, you merely use the flash player to run it. It's quite simple and I've done it for a flash game I like to play without having to hit the website. I know a bit more than the "slightest bit", but I wasn't aware of that, and a I bet a lot of folks are not. Its certainly not as simple as just saving the web page, or pinching the code for your own use. Truth is, I just don't much like Flash, for the same reasons I don't like ActiveX. I'm pretty much an open-source kind of guy when it comes to my programming. |
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Dec 3 2009, 07:57 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
I'm hoping for something like the SR4 Dice Widget that was release around the same time as SR4. But for my iPhone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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Dec 3 2009, 07:58 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
Mongoose,
PM me info to get your Resume/CV. I always enjoy working with runners and we may start a summer internship program. BlueMax |
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Dec 3 2009, 08:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 |
QUOTE (Platinum @ Dec 3 2009, 12:23 PM) TE: Do you have any further details about what you want? Like do you have to see dice rolling? Or do you just want it so you enter the number of dice, and have it show the outcomes sorted? Fancy or simple? Is what I am asking. Something like? http://chromiteblue.com/archive/coding/a-flash-dice-roller/ Something fancy? I like fancy. If you are interested I can forward to on to the person who actually has a clue as to what's going on. I'm just the cute face they sent to sort out the real runners from the bar flies. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Dec 3 2009, 08:44 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Dec 3 2009, 04:43 PM) Something fancy? I like fancy. If you are interested I can forward to on to the person who actually has a clue as to what's going on. I'm just the cute face they sent to sort out the real runners from the bar flies. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) So what's listed on your job description? |
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Dec 3 2009, 08:47 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
So you're just the group's face? Hmmm you'd better watch out Platinum- she could be sending you to see the scary troll street sam!
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Dec 4 2009, 12:20 AM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
If you end up out of luck, Tiger Eyes, I may be able to help out in a week or two, since flash and silverlight apps are largely what I do for a living. Unfortunately, I'm swamped with freelance + regular day job stuff at the moment, plus the upcoming christmas inevitabilty of "I can't be bothered", so I'm not a good choice until later in the year or 2010.
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Dec 4 2009, 02:57 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: 30-June 06 From: Fort Wayne, IN Member No.: 8,814 |
Hmmm...about 7 years ago, I would have jumped on this, as I was doing some Flash development from online demos and tutorials, but a lot has changed in Flash since then. The dice rolling code should all be pretty simple and may even be found open source someplace (for the person who said it would only take 10 minutes, I have to challenge that, as doing dice pools, adding Edge and exploding rules would easily take over 10 minutes just to pseudocode on a sheet of paper).
But, its all the extras that are going to take some time, graphics for buttons, possibly sounds, formatting output... I'd say this is 20-40 hours of work for someone that knows Flash well and about half of that will be gathering requirements. Only about a quarter of that will be coding and testing. For someone that has the right skillset but needs to get familiar with Flash, I'd probably double that time commitment. I'd be interested if there was a way to get a free development environment, but if not, I really can't volunteer $600 and 40-80 hours...that's pretty steep for chocolate chip cookies and a shout-out on a website. This may seem like a flame, but its not. As I am willing to volunteer some time to gather requirements and put together a detailed specifications document, so whoever you do get to develop the app, will have a clear and concise direction and hopefully know exactly what is needed for the Flash app. Design details and the like can be captured as well. I'd estimate that would only be 10-20 hours of my time and all correspondence could be done via email, phone calls and passing some documentation back and forth. That's what I do for a living and I'm good at my job. I'd even be willing to help test, as I'm pretty good with that as well... |
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Dec 4 2009, 03:11 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (deek @ Dec 4 2009, 06:57 AM) Hmmm...about 7 years ago, I would have jumped on this, as I was doing some Flash development from online demos and tutorials, but a lot has changed in Flash since then. The dice rolling code should all be pretty simple and may even be found open source someplace (for the person who said it would only take 10 minutes, I have to challenge that, as doing dice pools, adding Edge and exploding rules would easily take over 10 minutes just to pseudocode on a sheet of paper). But, its all the extras that are going to take some time, graphics for buttons, possibly sounds, formatting output... I'd say this is 20-40 hours of work for someone that knows Flash well and about half of that will be gathering requirements. Only about a quarter of that will be coding and testing. For someone that has the right skillset but needs to get familiar with Flash, I'd probably double that time commitment. I'd be interested if there was a way to get a free development environment, but if not, I really can't volunteer $600 and 40-80 hours...that's pretty steep for chocolate chip cookies and a shout-out on a website. This may seem like a flame, but its not. As I am willing to volunteer some time to gather requirements and put together a detailed specifications document, so whoever you do get to develop the app, will have a clear and concise direction and hopefully know exactly what is needed for the Flash app. Design details and the like can be captured as well. I'd estimate that would only be 10-20 hours of my time and all correspondence could be done via email, phone calls and passing some documentation back and forth. That's what I do for a living and I'm good at my job. I'd even be willing to help test, as I'm pretty good with that as well... Deek, The world needs more people with your skills. BlueMax SCM Engineer. |
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