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 Jan 20 2010, 02:31 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538  |
People in the Ganjee (correct name?) river in india managed to goblinize.. into dwarves. Thanks to a manasurge, of course. People can change into Orks and Trolls at puberty, and possibly during extreme mana levels and I'm sure I remember reading about storms in Tir Na Nog turning people into elves.
Could anyone else point out examples for me on the various bits of UGE that I've missed? |
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Jan 20 2010, 03:14 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
AFAIK, the Ganges River people in India changed into Nartaki (among other things), the only known human metavariant (not dwarf). Nartaki are listed in p49 of the Runner's Companion and are a product of the Year of the Comet (specifically, the events that predicated SURGE). It would probably be easiest to just read the SURGE entry at wiki.dumpshock.com.
EDIT: Drakes could also be arguably considered a magical gene expression. |
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Jan 20 2010, 05:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 266 Joined: 21-November 09 Member No.: 17,891 |
My current PC (Julian Benedict) was born in Tir Tairngire to Elven parents. His younger twin brother (Vincent) is an Elf. Everyone just assumed Julian was a short round-eared elf until he hit puberty and Goblinized into a Troll. There was a bit of a scandal and their parents broke up, something about "the UPS guy"...
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Jan 20 2010, 08:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 10-February 09 Member No.: 16,863 |
I don't think I've ever heard of people turning into elves or dwarves after birth. I'm pretty sure they just started being born after the mana got high enough. I could be wrong though. Mostly I think the only thing you haven't mentioned about surge is its ability to turn perfectly normal humans, orcs, elves, trolls and dwarves and turn them into squid-faced, green-skinned, 4-armed, horned monstrosities after puberty. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)
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Jan 21 2010, 04:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
Part of it is delving into ancient SR books, actually.
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Jan 21 2010, 11:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 9-March 09 Member No.: 16,955 |
One thing to keep in mind is that goliniation doesn't really occur any longer. Even back in the 2050s, there are numerous statements in the books about goblinization being very, very rare. Yeah, it's in the novels, but novels and the game have a limited linkage.
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Jan 21 2010, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (PBI @ Jan 21 2010, 06:45 AM)  One thing to keep in mind is that goliniation doesn't really occur any longer. Even back in the 2050s, there are numerous statements in the books about goblinization being very, very rare. Yeah, it's in the novels, but novels and the game have a limited linkage. It does still happen with orcs sometimes at least; I seem to recall some remark about some children born to them being humans, 95% of whom goblinize at puberty. I imagine similar issues between inter-racial couples as well. So it's rarer, but probably not unheard of. |
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Jan 24 2010, 11:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 9-March 09 Member No.: 16,955 |
QUOTE (MadDogMike @ Jan 21 2010, 05:31 PM) It does still happen with orcs sometimes at least; I seem to recall some remark about some children born to them being humans, 95% of whom goblinize at puberty. I imagine similar issues between inter-racial couples as well. So it's rarer, but probably not unheard of. Can you quote a reference, because I don't remember seeing that at all. Not that it means anything other than I may be going senile, but, still (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jan 24 2010, 01:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
It's simply the first word I picked.
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Jan 25 2010, 03:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 956 Joined: 16-June 07 From: Like a coyote, always on the move Member No.: 11,931 |
QUOTE (PBI @ Jan 24 2010, 07:54 AM) Can you quote a reference, because I don't remember seeing that at all. Not that it means anything other than I may be going senile, but, still (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's not children of humans becoming orks, it's human children of orks, it's in the basic description of the metatype on p. 66 SR4 (p. 72 SR4A) which states: "When sapiens are born to ork mothers, they will express as robustus at puberty roughly 95% of the time." |
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Jan 25 2010, 10:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 9-March 09 Member No.: 16,955 |
QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Jan 24 2010, 11:56 PM) It's not children of humans becoming orks, it's human children of orks, it's in the basic description of the metatype on p. 66 SR4 (p. 72 SR4A) which states: "When sapiens are born to ork mothers, they will express as robustus at puberty roughly 95% of the time." Ok. For some reason when I see "goblinization", I think of the first waves of it, the classic "guy goes to sleep a human, wakes up a troll" variety. |
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Jan 25 2010, 11:38 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 |
QUOTE (PBI @ Jan 25 2010, 05:41 AM) Ok. For some reason when I see "goblinization", I think of the first waves of it, the classic "guy goes to sleep a human, wakes up a troll" variety. that was back in the 2050's(Novel Changeling IIRC) and it was During Puberty (most of the Time) Nowadays(2072) most of the Metas resemble their Parents He who dances like his Parents Medicineman |
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Jan 25 2010, 12:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 9-March 09 Member No.: 16,955 |
QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jan 25 2010, 07:38 AM) that was back in the 2050's(Novel Changeling IIRC) and it was During Puberty (most of the Time) Nowadays(2072) most of the Metas resemble their Parents He who dances like his Parents Medicineman Never said I was talking 2072. And, actually, you prove my original point; most goblinization occurred in the early days and gets more and more rare as time progresses. Forgot about the orks, though. |
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Jan 25 2010, 09:04 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
i'm pretty sure there are still instances of it happening in general (that is, people expressing as orks or trolls who don't have ork or troll parents, and elves or dwarfs being born to parents who are not elf or dwarf). it's just becoming less and less common. that doesn't mean it *never* happens, but it likely does mean that when it does happen some of the doctors start thinking about writing about it for submission to a medical journal or something like that.
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