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Delarn
post Jan 25 2010, 10:18 PM
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Question, if someone make a biodrone and over mods it with cyberware ... will it become crazy or it will be still manageable to be used ?
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post Jan 25 2010, 10:34 PM
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Running Wild, p. 26-27 has all the rules on Critter Implants and Critter Psychoses.

Manageable becomes a matter of scale--do you want something highly trainable and good with kids, or released in a secluded area and will simply maul anything that moves?
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post Jan 25 2010, 11:21 PM
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It's a biodrone ? Shouldn't it be offline when the rigger switch it off ?
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post Jan 25 2010, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (Delarn @ Jan 25 2010, 06:21 PM) *
It's a biodrone ? Shouldn't it be offline when the rigger switch it off ?


Its still an animal so "off" is not really possible. And while a rigger is not using it it will be like a cyber cujo.
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post Jan 25 2010, 11:53 PM
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So if you implant it into a human being ?
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post Jan 25 2010, 11:56 PM
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You can't really implant a biodrone into a person. Some of the bio-drone implants may be usable in peeople, but the costs given are for simple creatures and will be exponentially higher than listed for complex neural structures like monkeys, and even further for human beings.
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post Jan 25 2010, 11:59 PM
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So it would not be possible for an AI to have a bio-drone/metahuman body ?
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post Jan 26 2010, 12:06 AM
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It would be possible for an AI to get a wimpy (full clone) and have a stirrup implanted into it, though the cost would be up to the GM. (I'd start at 20-30 times the standard cost) From there, the AI would make it the home node, and start going to town. This has been discussed at several points in previous threads, and if I recall correctly it is generally viewed that the costs and penalties don't balance against the gains.

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post Jan 26 2010, 01:09 AM
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It was just to know. Because if the AI is jumped in it can modify it until it get to cyber zombie without spells.
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post Jan 26 2010, 01:52 AM
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Once you hit zero Essence, the creature/body is going to die. Cyberzombies are maintained through magic, to keep it "alive" even after Essence goes below zero. If you just want to go to basically zero essence, I'd recommend a cyborg instead, and replace the jar with the AI's nexus.
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post Jan 26 2010, 03:07 AM
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Yeah, just get an Otomo. They are supposed to look pretty normal and you can kit it out with some crazy armor to boot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 26 2010, 03:33 PM
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Take a motorcycle, add on walker legs (but leave the wheels too), add 2 arms, a crapload of armor, and a nexus, and call it a transformer!
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post Jan 26 2010, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (Neowulf @ Jan 26 2010, 04:33 PM) *
Take a motorcycle, add on walker legs (but leave the wheels too), add 2 arms, a crapload of armor, and a nexus, and call it a transformer!


Been there, done that.

I took a sportscar - looked cooler.

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post Jan 26 2010, 07:52 PM
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LOL, I just wanted to know if a overly cybered body with energy cells would be able to walk. It's the AI that is controlling it not the victim. Anyway my AI is in an Otomo body.
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Jan 26 2010, 02:52 AM) *
Once you hit zero Essence, the creature/body is going to die. Cyberzombies are maintained through magic, to keep it "alive" even after Essence goes below zero. If you just want to go to basically zero essence, I'd recommend a cyborg instead, and replace the jar with the AI's nexus.


Does a cyborg require a 'soul' for the body to work? Like a cyberzombie would? Different mechanics I realise as a CZ needs a soul to be anchored to the body in order to function but you get the drift.

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post Jan 26 2010, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (Squinky @ Jan 26 2010, 04:07 AM) *
Yeah, just get an Otomo. They are supposed to look pretty normal and you can kit it out with some crazy armor to boot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Our AI has an Otomo, kitted with a chameleon coating, armor and rigged for underwater diving and propulsion.

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post Jan 26 2010, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 26 2010, 04:44 PM) *
Our AI has an Otomo, kitted with a chameleon coating, armor and rigged for underwater diving and propulsion.

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Were they allowed to start with it? Or did you buy/steal/build it at some point?
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post Jan 27 2010, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jan 26 2010, 11:56 PM) *
Were they allowed to start with it? Or did you buy/steal/build it at some point?


Sorry I just realised... they had the Manservant (the one with reduced movement) and beefed it up. Despite the reduced movement, it did ok. They don't have the Otomo (that's the combat drone, right?). The player was planning on stealing a combat drone body.

Sorry, I'm away from the books atm, so I forget the drone names.

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post Jan 27 2010, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 26 2010, 06:42 PM) *
Does a cyborg require a 'soul' for the body to work? Like a cyberzombie would?


Given that we can grow meat in a lab, I don't see why a "dead" biodrone would be an issue for an AI. It'd still need to be fed (for keeping the organic bits alive at a cellular level, at least) and such, which an AI would have trouble remembering to do (remember, that's a "flesh bag" problem).
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