 Humanoid Drones, Between the Manservant and the Otomo |
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 Feb 11 2010, 01:24 PM
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panda!  Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242  |
QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Feb 11 2010, 03:50 AM)  4th Ed Rigger sourcebook given the SR4 "curse", that would signal the end of the 4th edition, and the beginning of the 5th... |
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Feb 11 2010, 04:36 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Feb 11 2010, 01:07 AM) How much space could you get in an otomo by ditching the 3 foot long cavity where the ccu connects, and just filling it with fun and potentially dangerous electronics, and stuff? The same amount of capacity that the mod itself takes, of course. IIRC, 1 or 2 slots. |
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Feb 11 2010, 08:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Feb 11 2010, 08:24 AM) given the SR4 "curse", that would signal the end of the 4th edition, and the beginning of the 5th... I hope not, I just started to like 4th ... |
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Feb 11 2010, 09:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 604 Joined: 1-December 08 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 16,646 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Feb 11 2010, 05:24 AM) given the SR4 "curse", that would signal the end of the 4th edition, and the beginning of the 5th... What SR4 curse is this? |
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Feb 11 2010, 10:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 557 Joined: 26-July 09 From: Kent, WA Member No.: 17,426 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Feb 11 2010, 05:24 AM) given the SR4 "curse", that would signal the end of the 4th edition, and the beginning of the 5th... My Grandfather had a saying...it was kind of deep, and you have to ponder it a little, but I think it applies here. It went like this: "...huh?" |
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Feb 12 2010, 05:21 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
looking back over SR publishing history, rigger black book, rigger 2 and rigger 3 where all published at or close to the end of SR1, SR2 and SR3.
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Feb 12 2010, 09:55 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Feb 12 2010, 05:21 AM) looking back over SR publishing history, rigger black book, rigger 2 and rigger 3 where all published at or close to the end of SR1, SR2 and SR3. This is confirmed. - J. |
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Feb 12 2010, 06:21 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Arsenal doesn't count as a Rigger book does it?
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Feb 12 2010, 07:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 604 Joined: 1-December 08 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 16,646 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Feb 11 2010, 09:21 PM) looking back over SR publishing history, rigger black book, rigger 2 and rigger 3 where all published at or close to the end of SR1, SR2 and SR3. For SR3 wasn't it actually the revised Rigger 3, not the original that had come out a couple of years prior? |
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Feb 12 2010, 07:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
I asked the dev and they told me there is no rigger book in plan.
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Feb 13 2010, 12:51 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (Caadium @ Feb 12 2010, 08:09 PM) For SR3 wasn't it actually the revised Rigger 3, not the original that had come out a couple of years prior? well rigger 3 was one of the last SR3 books that fasa published (if not the last), and rigger3 revised was one of the last from fanpro before going SR4. But thats all very much "iirc". |
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Feb 13 2010, 03:02 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Feb 12 2010, 06:21 PM) Arsenal doesn't count as a Rigger book does it? NO which kinda makes me think that was the point... if you make it Street Samurai Catalogue 2 + Rigger 4 + Fields of Fire 2 all in one, then it bypasses the curse. - J. |
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Feb 13 2010, 09:17 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
i think the idea was to get as high density of updates to "old" gear out there as fast as possible. And they got that done by throwing in a maximum of stats and descriptions, and a minimum of art.
heck, i think the original release plan was arsenal, then augmentation. But thanks to the licensing issues between fanpro and wizkids, resulting in fanpro getting the license revoked while in the middle of doing arsenal and emergence. |
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Feb 13 2010, 01:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Feb 13 2010, 04:17 AM) i think the idea was to get as high density of updates to "old" gear out there as fast as possible. And they got that done by throwing in a maximum of stats and descriptions, and a minimum of art. heck, i think the original release plan was arsenal, then augmentation. But thanks to the licensing issues between fanpro and wizkids, resulting in fanpro getting the license revoked while in the middle of doing arsenal and emergence. And the best company got the licence. Catalyst ! |
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Feb 13 2010, 01:50 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (Delarn @ Feb 13 2010, 02:25 PM) And the best company got the licence. Catalyst ! i could probably be badly wrong here but here goes: the way i have understood it is that when fasa dissolved, fanpro hired many of those that had worked on battletech and shadowrun, and created a US branch (fanpro llc, iirc) that did the actual product development. when fanpro then lost the license, catalyst was formed by the same group of people to continue development of those games (and picked up some new ones as well). |
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Feb 13 2010, 01:51 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,091 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ Feb 13 2010, 04:02 AM) NO which kinda makes me think that was the point... if you make it Street Samurai Catalogue 2 + Rigger 4 + Fields of Fire 2 all in one, then it bypasses the curse. - J. There's still hope in the form of War... |
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Feb 13 2010, 02:26 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Feb 13 2010, 02:51 PM) There's still hope in the form of War... currently, that one is so far off that its not even mentioned as upcoming on shadowrun4.com... |
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Feb 13 2010, 03:17 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,091 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
...and the absolute lack of information means that there is still room for wishful thinking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Feb 13 2010, 06:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 557 Joined: 26-July 09 From: Kent, WA Member No.: 17,426 |
On the topic of adding additional drones to the 'official' catalog, I wonder if the long-awaited Dumpshock Data Haven 'Zine might eventually get the nod to include optional rules for new gear? I'm remembering another franchise with its' own magazine that went that way, and now includes those optional rules in official RAW. (Always with the caveat that the GM makes the final call, of course.) I mention it only because I really would like more info on the drones we already have and similar models, and if there was a way to get some of that info out to the players without having to develop/print/market a new book...well, low overhead.
Another alternative to Rigger 4 would be a quick & dirty PDF supplement, with some of the old fluff updated to SR4 rules. Maybe when I finish my MapTools project and I need something to do, I'll cook one up for kicks. |
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Feb 14 2010, 11:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
It'd be nice if in an upcoming book, soneone could stat out a Terminator style drone. I'd like to see what the t-800 looks like in Shadowrun stats.
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Feb 14 2010, 12:30 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Uh... that's an Otomo.
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Feb 14 2010, 02:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Feb 14 2010, 12:30 PM) Uh... that's an Otomo. Maybe I should clarify: A high end version. The Akiyama and Otomo aren't particularly impressive in combat and would be shredded by your average combat runner. |
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Feb 14 2010, 05:34 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
You mean a Tomino? With armor 20 and a few other mods?
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Feb 16 2010, 06:42 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
No, just an Otomo with Concealed Armor. It should look human, after all.
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