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Teryn180
post Feb 28 2010, 06:26 AM
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QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 27 2010, 08:08 PM) *
Due to the natural tendencies of Bastets, I told the player that wanted one, the Training levels for a Bastet may be higher than those compared to a friendlier animal like a Flipper or a Mongrel. So while the character may have a Resonance bond and a pet with higher Resonance in a Bastet, it may not be as easy to train as compared to a Flipper or a Mongrel.


Yeah, cause let's face it. Cats are hard enough to train, and Bastets are more intelligent, and quite likely more stubborn. Oh, and don't forget, they're probably going to be training you (weather you know it or not) while you're trying to train them.
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post Feb 28 2010, 06:34 AM
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QUOTE (Teryn180 @ Feb 28 2010, 06:26 AM) *
Yeah, cause let's face it. Cats are hard enough to train, and Bastets are more intelligent, and quite likely more stubborn. Oh, and don't forget, they're probably going to be training you (weather you know it or not) while you're trying to train them.


No joke on the cat training you thing... my cat literally hates me, like legitimately, yet I still feed it, change out it's litter box, give it water and treats... and she ignores me... sometimes I don;t know why I do it. At least I don't live alone so i'm not the only one that has to deal with rejection, the cat only pays attention to one person and it;s not me. I mean come on... I was the one that choose it when we went to the shelter.

But back to Shadowrun...
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post Feb 28 2010, 09:46 AM
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Yeah, you don't train cats, cats train you. With something like a Bastet, it runs your finances too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 28 2010, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (Khyron @ Feb 28 2010, 04:46 AM) *
Yeah, you don't train cats, cats train you. With something like a Bastet, it runs your finances too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Given the percentage of the USA that is in crippling debt and such, that might not be such a bad thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 28 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (Blackb1rd @ Feb 27 2010, 05:38 AM) *
Alright, next question. My character, at least the one i'm writing right now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) , is a former UCAS Army Interrogator/Dog Handler. When i purchase an awakened critter at Chargen should i include the cost of the animal's training even if the character has trained the animal himself as part of his background?

one still "buy" the cyberware even tho its part of the background (former military or something). Think of the char gen purchase not so much a straight out purchase but more the resources spent in the time up to the start of the game. That is, a runner is not some level 1 newbie that is barely out of school, they have already picked up skills and gear that fit their way of doing things.
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:27 AM
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This reminds me of a game I ran awhile back in 3rd. One of the characters, a minotaur combat mage named Aquarius, rescued/stole a hellhound from a corpsec kennel during a run. He spoiled that damn dog rotten. And when it ate Mexican food... Let's just say a gassy hellhound is not a pleasant companion. Not to mention the costs of asbestos upholstery...
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:50 AM
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I recently started training a pack of attack animals because one on one most animals aren't very useful in a fight but when you have them trained for group tactics and cover them with some thermal smoke to keep the gun fire off them they quickly become a force multiplier. Has anybody else had much use for pets? Maybe outside of fighting?
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post Mar 1 2010, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Mar 1 2010, 04:50 AM) *
I recently started training a pack of attack animals because one on one most animals aren't very useful in a fight but when you have them trained for group tactics and cover them with some thermal smoke to keep the gun fire off them they quickly become a force multiplier. Has anybody else had much use for pets? Maybe outside of fighting?


I haven't actually done it yet, but I'd imagine a bandit could be super helpful for non-combat rolls such as recon, B&E, and so on.

If you could manage to train a rat and strap an RFID camera onto it, that would be good for some surveillance as well.
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post Mar 1 2010, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Mar 1 2010, 06:50 AM) *
I recently started training a pack of attack animals because one on one most animals aren't very useful in a fight but when you have them trained for group tactics and cover them with some thermal smoke to keep the gun fire off them they quickly become a force multiplier. Has anybody else had much use for pets? Maybe outside of fighting?


I wanted to use a temu as spotter for Astral activty for my mundane ninja, but my GM said he would never let me have one...
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post Mar 1 2010, 08:05 PM
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I wanted to use a temu as spotter for Astral activty for my mundane ninja, but my GM said he would never let me have one...


Lame GM. How else is a mundane suppose to evade an astral patrol?
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post Mar 1 2010, 08:23 PM
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walk very very quietly, and carry a big can of FAB3?
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 05:05 PM) *
Lame GM. How else is a mundane suppose to evade an astral patrol?


You hear that Garou? Ain't just my opinion now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
He says I can get that Ghost Cartel's BAD but he said it will show up in the campaign in a month (game time), but if I'm ever going to use any drug that often I'll have to buy a whole ne filtration system inside my body. A temu would take less trouble.
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 1 2010, 09:00 PM) *
You hear that Garou? Ain't just my opinion now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
He says I can get that Ghost Cartel's BAD but he said it will show up in the campaign in a month (game time), but if I'm ever going to use any drug that often I'll have to buy a whole ne filtration system inside my body. A temu would take less trouble.


I am not using Running Wild on this campaign. I don't see reason to make an exception. And i find the idea of a monkey trained to be a mute ninja in a mini rutheniun coating Full body Suit ridiculous. Get yourself a FAB granade a be happy about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Mar 1 2010, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (Garou @ Mar 1 2010, 06:08 PM) *
I am not using Running Wild on this campaign. I don't see reason to make an exception. And i find the idea of a monkey trained to be a mute ninja in a mini rutheniun coating Full body Suit ridiculous. Get yourself a FAB granade a be happy about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


the mini ruthenium full body suit would be a plus. You cut my monkey idea before I had even mentioned the suit.
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post Mar 2 2010, 01:59 AM
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Brazilian_Shinobi- It is of my humble opinion that one should never argue with a GM after he;s made a fair and reasonable decision. Jut because we, as players, do not like it we need to bear in mind that it is the GM's game and any Characters and their, erm, pets are subject to the proverbial "chopping block".

That being said this not the thread for such discussions, and from the looks of it this is an issue that should be addressed over PM and not on my innocent, if fully uninformed, topic.

Furthermore me and my GM have come to an agreement on the issue if a Hellhound at Chargen. We have decided my method of mathematical critter procurement costs for individuals with the necessary skills to train and care for animals (at least a skill of 3) is reasonable and will be held as a house rule from here on. That being said, i may work personally on creating similar house rules for Hackers, Riggers, and other specialists.

One caveat, i think the halved willpower modification should only be applied if the character in question has the Animal Handling and Care Skills at or above 4.

If you are confused you can refer to the bottom of the first page of the thread where my method is detailed.
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post Mar 2 2010, 08:18 AM
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My GM ruled that a Bandit with shiny toys playing in a parkinglot will distract every watcher spirit in the area. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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