 Bonuses for a Rigger... |
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 Mar 5 2010, 08:20 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Albany, NY Member No.: 1,757  |
Outa curiosity, I wanted to clear up some confusion with one of my players who has a Rigger. He's stating that he should be getting a +4 to all his actions when jumped in since A) He's Hot Sim VR'ing which is a +2 to all actions and B) He has a Control Rig which is +2 once more.
Something doesn't seem right here to me, or do you get a +4 to anything you do when jumped in with a Control Rig via Hot Sim? |
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Mar 5 2010, 08:22 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538 |
My reading is yes you do. Well with anything to do with running a drone you do.
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Mar 5 2010, 08:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Albany, NY Member No.: 1,757 |
Ya know, with the 20th Anniversary Edition of Shadowrun, you figure they'd make the rules for some of the more vague aspects a bit clearer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)
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Mar 5 2010, 08:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 285 Joined: 22-April 06 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 8,495 |
he is almost right:
QUOTE ("SR4A 245") Hot sim benefits the rigger as much as the hacker. All actions by a rigger who has jumped into a drone (or other device) are considered Matrix actions, and receive the benefit of the +2 bonus due to hot sim VR use. QUOTE ("SR4A 338") The control rig provides a +2 dice pool bonus on all Vehicle skill tests while the rigger is “jumped into” a vehicle/drone via full virtual reality. So he gets +2 to all tests in VR which includes all tests while rigging. But he gets the +2 Bonus from the Control Rig only on Vehicle Skills, so if he wants to infiltrate with his car, he does not get the bonus dice, since infiltration is not a vehicle skill. cya Tycho |
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Mar 5 2010, 08:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Albany, NY Member No.: 1,757 |
At least that sounds a bit more reasonable. Thanks
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Mar 5 2010, 10:03 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
If I´m not mistaken, Gunnery is a vehicle skill, yes?
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Mar 5 2010, 10:04 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE (Ryu @ Mar 5 2010, 05:03 PM)  If I´m not mistaken, Gunnery is a vehicle skill, yes? It is. Also, don't forget to grab control rig booster nanites (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 5 2010, 10:20 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526 |
And don't forget that he takes physical damage from dumpshock when you crash the node of one of his drones. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Mar 5 2010, 11:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 26-January 10 Member No.: 18,081 |
QUOTE (Ryu @ Mar 5 2010, 02:03 PM) If I´m not mistaken, Gunnery is a vehicle skill, yes? Actually, no. It states that you get the +2 bonus dice to Vehicle Tests, not to all vehicle skills. Basically, he gets the +4 when he's making rolls to do any actual driving/flying (making a Vehicle Test - it's a specific test defined in the Combat chapter), but only +2 for Gunnery skills and the like. |
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Mar 5 2010, 11:43 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 9-December 09 Member No.: 17,955 |
QUOTE (DWC @ Mar 5 2010, 11:20 PM) And don't forget that he takes physical damage from dumpshock when you crash the node of one of his drones. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) and stun damage from biofeedback when the drone takes damage |
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Mar 6 2010, 02:28 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
QUOTE (svenftw @ Mar 5 2010, 06:34 PM) Actually, no. It states that you get the +2 bonus dice to Vehicle Tests, not to all vehicle skills. Basically, he gets the +4 when he's making rolls to do any actual driving/flying (making a Vehicle Test - it's a specific test defined in the Combat chapter), but only +2 for Gunnery skills and the like. No. The bonus applies to all vehicle skill tests. Look up the section on Vehicle skills and Gunnery is in there. |
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Mar 6 2010, 02:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 956 Joined: 16-June 07 From: Like a coyote, always on the move Member No.: 11,931 |
If he were a TM with 2 ranks in the Immersion Echo, he would get a +4 though to all rolls when jumped in.
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Mar 6 2010, 02:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Albany, NY Member No.: 1,757 |
Squinky is right, the one skill I didn't want him to have a +4 to he will... Gunnery. Ahh well, I just gotta dig out some bigger critters and threats for the team's rigger then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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Mar 6 2010, 02:54 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
QUOTE (Jonny Reload @ Mar 5 2010, 09:51 PM) Squinky is right, the one skill I didn't want him to have a +4 to he will... Gunnery. Ahh well, I just gotta dig out some bigger critters and threats for the team's rigger then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) Drones and vehicles can't always be there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 6 2010, 03:00 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526 |
QUOTE (Jonny Reload @ Mar 5 2010, 09:51 PM) Squinky is right, the one skill I didn't want him to have a +4 to he will... Gunnery. Ahh well, I just gotta dig out some bigger critters and threats for the team's rigger then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) Never underestimate the value of directional jammers. Starting a war of escalation will just annoy everyone caught in the crossfire and push the grounds of plausibility as the Air Force eventually starts sending Skytrain gunships packing Firelance vehicle lasers and Taurus gauss cannons to hunt his killer drones. |
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