How dangerous can a troll go-gang be ? Options

[AngelisStorm]

Arsenal does have rules for combining drugs, but if there is anything besides "take a -1 die penalty to your addiction test," then I'm missing it.

I know that you can take drugs at the same time, and gain effects from both. But since SR is normally against stacking, I would take that to mean that you gain the gain the better bonuses from both drugs (kamakazie & novacoke, for example: +2 Str (same on both drugs), +1 IP from Kama, and the Pain Tolerance (6) from Novacoke, because it's better than the (3) from Kama).

The other alternative could be fun (stacking), but does lead to situations such as "Yeah, I'll take Cram & Jazz at the same time." O-o

[Dumori]

IIRC all drug bonus stack... Yeh this means you can pump yout self up to 9ip(random guess looks right) but still you can only use 4 of them XD

[Ascalaphus]

AFAIK, you simply can't stack IP bonuses. Pretty much every augmentation tells you to. Even if RAW isn't clear on the drugs, that's probably what they meant;

[Thingy that gives you the most IP bonus] + [Edge] + 1 = total IPs.

And the other things that drugs give bonuses on.. well, to the augmented maximum.

[Ghremdal]

Im picturing this troll go gang as a bunch of Warhammer 40K Nobs on bikes. Fasta Red!!

[Dumori]

AFAIK, you simply can't stack IP bonuses. Pretty much every augmentation tells you to. Even if RAW isn't clear on the drugs, that's probably what they meant;

[Thingy that gives you the most IP bonus] + [Edge] + 1 = total IPs.

And the other things that drugs give bonuses on.. well, to the augmented maximum.

but i'mn sure you can pop jazz or cram to got form 2-3 ip

[BookWyrm]

How dangerous can a Troll go-gang be?

If you have to ask, you don't want to know. EVER.

[Stahlseele]

That question is right up there with:WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

[Dumori]

Or You sure this is a cake walk?

[Delarn]

A troll go-gang ! Run for your life and hide has fast has you can !

[Dumori]

at least its not a drake go-gang (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Fatum]

at least its not a drake go-gang (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Or should we say "fly-gang"?

[Dumori]

Meh some go-gangs apparently have air support by the fluff.

[Fatum]

Lol what. What kind of gangs, and what kind of support? Sprawls have their airspace tightly controlled.

[Stahlseele]

Do flying drones count as air support?

[Kliko]

Do flying drones count as air support?

That would be yes.

[Stahlseele]

Get a low level comlink and a low level flying drone that can carry one, put a hunting rifle on that thing and you are set.
Hide it in a box and transport in a car or van or something and only take it out when you need eyes and guns up there.

[Fatum]

Pah, if you count drones, sure thing everyone and their mother have them.
I thought we're talking real air support - you know, all the good stuff: t-wings, copters, strike aviation.

[FriendoftheDork]

Arsenal does have rules for combining drugs, but if there is anything besides "take a -1 die penalty to your addiction test," then I'm missing it.

I know that you can take drugs at the same time, and gain effects from both. But since SR is normally against stacking, I would take that to mean that you gain the gain the better bonuses from both drugs (kamakazie & novacoke, for example: +2 Str (same on both drugs), +1 IP from Kama, and the Pain Tolerance (6) from Novacoke, because it's better than the (3) from Kama).

The other alternative could be fun (stacking), but does lead to situations such as "Yeah, I'll take Cram & Jazz at the same time." O-o

Realistically, effects of drugs increases the more you use, and of course different drugs can enhance one another. However it's not so clear cut as adding the effects together. Sometimes the effect of drugs may even negate one another.

Also, there is the fact that many of the drugs listed are probably already processed drugs added together. Now if you can get +3 IPs just by taking 3 different drugs, then why is there no drug cocktail listed with similar effects?

In those cases where the drugs have different effects though, all effects should apply, and the higher of two should be used of it's the same kind of bonus.

No clear cut rules on it though.

[Tyro]

Realistically, effects of drugs increases the more you use, and of course different drugs can enhance one another. However it's not so clear cut as adding the effects together. Sometimes the effect of drugs may even negate one another.

Also, there is the fact that many of the drugs listed are probably already processed drugs added together. Now if you can get +3 IPs just by taking 3 different drugs, then why is there no drug cocktail listed with similar effects?

In those cases where the drugs have different effects though, all effects should apply, and the higher of two should be used of it's the same kind of bonus.

No clear cut rules on it though.

I allow everything but increased IP's to stack, but I enforce speedballing rules (nasty). Also remember that coming down from 2 drugs at once or in quick succession can quite easily kill you, especially if you're already banged up from combat.

[AngusMacFadden]

I read about some go-gangs where they prowl the highways to raid truck merchandise amongst other things. My players are about to smuggle some goods using a Bulldog Van (for the goods) and an SUV (for additional manpower transportation).

I was wondering, how can a troll go-gang can be taken seriously ?? The gang's most probably not cybered, got good Pilot skill, probably some firearms, and why not flails to dent the van. The gang can't possibly ram the Bulldog Van (I'm assuming they're on bikes), but they will probably have an easy time following the players because of speed and handling.

I'd like to scare or challenge the players with something mundane, realistic, and without any tie to the main run, much like a random encounter.

Thoughts and ideas are welcome. Tx.

Hey, use the trolls in a Mad Max type of deal. If the stretch of road the runners are going through is a warzone, add some obstacles such as cars full of burning tourists (Tir ones). How about having the trolls partner up on bikes/cars and have them assault the van. Suddenly you have a bunch of psychopathic trogs clambering all over your ride! Do something strange, like having them smash out the windows or trying to enter the crew cab. Chances are, even though a go-gang really doesn't have a static turf (course they really do, like biker bars and clubhouses) they would definitely know the roads like the back of their hands.

This post has been edited by AngusMacFadden: Apr 22 2010, 06:07 AM

[Pepsi Jedi]

Take away the advantage of the van.

Transfer truck across the road will stop even armored vans PDQ. When they stop, the trolls all pull up behind... Then.. You know. Do what pissy trolls do.