 Orichalcum Bullets? |
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 Mar 16 2010, 12:29 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 582 Joined: 13-April 08 Member No.: 15,881  |
What would be the effect/use of Orichalcum or Orichalcum-tipped bullets?
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Mar 16 2010, 12:31 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Socinus @ Mar 15 2010, 06:29 PM)  What would be the effect/use of Orichalcum or Orichalcum-tipped bullets? Bankruptcy... Keep the Faith |
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Mar 16 2010, 12:37 AM
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Dumorimasoddaa Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 |
REALLY fast
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Mar 16 2010, 12:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 582 Joined: 13-April 08 Member No.: 15,881 |
Assuming you can absorb the expense of creating them, what effect would they have in combat?
Orichalcum's actual properties dont seem to be spelled out very well anywhere. |
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Mar 16 2010, 12:48 AM
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Dumorimasoddaa Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 |
None over and above normal rounds unless some critter has an allergy to the substance then it would have the effect of "silver" bullets.
Really you best bet is to just ancer spells to rounds of your chocie but even then its super expensive. |
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Mar 16 2010, 02:21 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 5-February 10 Member No.: 18,115 |
This is kind of like asking what would be the effect / use of dragonbone bullets, or of a katana made of diamond studded platinum.
It's just really rare stuff. It's not useful for much except magical shenanigans. ~Umidori |
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Mar 16 2010, 02:50 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 10-February 09 Member No.: 16,863 |
It's like the cars they made with gold wiring in the 50s. It doesn't actually improve performance very much, and is significantly more expensive than normal, but it's a statement of awesomeness and wealth to do it.
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Mar 16 2010, 02:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 12-January 10 Member No.: 18,033 |
Hell, how much is Orichalcum worth? It sounds like if your targets survive they could get a friendly doc to dig out the bullets, split the money, and get a nice bundle of credsticks.
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Mar 16 2010, 03:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 372 Joined: 2-March 10 Member No.: 18,227 |
QUOTE (Emy @ Mar 15 2010, 09:55 PM) Hell, how much is Orichalcum worth? It sounds like if your targets survive they could get a friendly doc to dig out the bullets, split the money, and get a nice bundle of credsticks. Now that sounds like the kind of game a Dragon might use to motivate his snack food / chief guests."I'm going to shoot at you with very expensive bullets. If you take a bullet and survive, you could carry out a small fortune... if I catch you first, though, you're going to be deliciously spiced." |
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Mar 16 2010, 03:46 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
QUOTE (Emy @ Mar 15 2010, 07:55 PM) Hell, how much is Orichalcum worth? It sounds like if your targets survive they could get a friendly doc to dig out the bullets, split the money, and get a nice bundle of credsticks. Orichalcum is 50,000 nuyen per unit, availability 12 Refined Gold is 20,000 nuyen per unit, availability 6 Refined Silver is 600 nuyen per unit, also availability 6 Refined Copper is 200 nuyen per unit, also availability 6 Refined Iron is 100 nuyen per unit, also availability 6 Street Magic, page 185 As far as I can tell a unit is a subjective measure, and may not even be the same from one material to the next (especially when alchemy will let you get a maximum of 8 units of orichalcum out of 4 units of reagents). Unless there's a printing somewhere that actually says what the weight and/or volume of a "unit" is, I don't think I've seen it yet. |
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Mar 16 2010, 03:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 312 Joined: 3-March 10 Member No.: 18,237 |
QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Mar 16 2010, 02:46 PM) Orichalcum is 50,000 nuyen per unit, availability 12 Refined Gold is 20,000 nuyen per unit, availability 6 Refined Silver is 600 nuyen per unit, also availability 6 Refined Copper is 200 nuyen per unit, also availability 6 Refined Iron is 100 nuyen per unit, also availability 6 Street Magic, page 185 As far as I can tell a unit is a subjective measure, and may not even be the same from one material to the next (especially when alchemy will let you get a maximum of 8 units of orichalcum out of 4 units of reagents). Unless there's a printing somewhere that actually says what the weight and/or volume of a "unit" is, I don't think I've seen it yet. Teaches me for not reading Street Magic yet, I missed this little gold mine. Be interested in someone could find the answer to the unit size (if it exists) as I've always worked on the assumption that it is expensive, but now that I know 'how' expensive, I'm still eluded to 'how' 'much' expensive in regards to actual size/weight. Just ignore me if that made no sense, I'm not sure if I understand what I wrote. |
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Mar 16 2010, 03:58 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
QUOTE (Socinus @ Mar 15 2010, 08:41 PM) Assuming you can absorb the expense of creating them, what effect would they have in combat? Orichalcum's actual properties dont seem to be spelled out very well anywhere. What makes you think anything unusual would happen? |
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Mar 16 2010, 04:10 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Mar 15 2010, 10:46 PM) Orichalcum is 50,000 nuyen per unit, availability 12 ... As far as I can tell a unit is a subjective measure, and may not even be the same from one material to the next (especially when alchemy will let you get a maximum of 8 units of orichalcum out of 4 units of reagents). Unless there's a printing somewhere that actually says what the weight and/or volume of a "unit" is, I don't think I've seen it yet. Orichalcum is crazy expensive, like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) 1,000,000 per pound... Or about 50,000 an ounce. How about that math? Iron at (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) 100 per "unit" looks to be along the lines of 1 unit being about 100 pounds or more. Even in the Sixth World iron is going to be dirt cheap (today's price for steel: about $500-$700 per tonne). Copper is ~$3.50 / lb today, making 1 unit about 57 pounds. |
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Mar 16 2010, 04:37 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
Refined Iron, not Iron.
It is Iron that has been mined / treated for use as a regent for enchanting. Taking a chunk out of a chain-link fence does not suffice (assuming said fence is even made out of the metal). [By memory - cannot access Street Magic at the moment] I do not know where you got the value of 1,000,000 per pound from, but I am assuming earlier editions. If I understand correctly, the Nuyen in 4th is comparatively significantly more valuable than it was in 1st - 3rd (either that, or everything else is significantly less valuable). Regardless, I am personally fine with a "Unit" being equal to 1 ounce of the given material. |
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Mar 16 2010, 04:56 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
If Orichalcum is 50k per ounce, a bullet of it would cost thrice less - a standard 7.62 weighs around 9 grams.
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Mar 16 2010, 05:26 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
So only 16,000¥ per round? What a screaming deal! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 16 2010, 06:15 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
And if you call right now and order no less than 15, we'll include this stylish clip absolutely for FREE.
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Mar 16 2010, 06:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 30-April 07 From: Edge of the Redmond Barrens, Borderline NAN. Runnin' the border for literal milk runs. Member No.: 11,565 |
QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 16 2010, 01:15 AM) And if you call right now and order no less than 15, we'll include this stylish clip absolutely for FREE. But Sir, my gun holds more than 15 bullets! What can I, the common consumer, do about this? |
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Mar 16 2010, 06:41 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
Our special offer is only available if you load no more than 15 bullets.
Please contact your local representative to get information on whether you can load less than a full clip for your gun. |
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Mar 16 2010, 03:40 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Mar 15 2010, 11:37 PM) Refined Iron, not Iron. It is Iron that has been mined / treated for use as a regent for enchanting. Taking a chunk out of a chain-link fence does not suffice (assuming said fence is even made out of the metal). Touche. I still think it would be possible that each "unit" is a different size based on material, but treating them all as 1 oz. isn't a bad idea. |
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Mar 16 2010, 05:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 628 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 17,963 |
http://wiki.dumpshock.com/index.php/Orichalcum
One unit is 10 grams. Making a detonation bullet would be nice. A Nova spell force 6 casted by the bullet on impact. Or a simple light spell casted from the inside of a nosferatu... |
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Mar 16 2010, 05:36 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
Stupidly expensive, anchored spell bullets? Am I the only one getting flashbacks to Outlaw Star?
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Mar 16 2010, 05:38 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Yes you are. Me, myself and i, we are getting flashbacks to forums.dumpshock.com some months ago ^^
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Mar 16 2010, 05:44 PM
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Dumorimasoddaa Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 |
Anchored spells on bulttes for the assain the know he needs to kill that tank with a hold out pistol.
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Mar 16 2010, 05:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
From the 1st – 3rd Edition sourcebooks:
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