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MatrixJargon
post Mar 18 2010, 11:52 PM
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....What does the Steel Lynx look like and exactly how big is it? Also...the Doberman.

The drones in Core are so poorly described.
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post Mar 19 2010, 12:10 AM
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I think it is best left up to the imagination.

They have had some drone pics over the years, some varying dramatically through editions. I've always been of the mind that there are so many producers of drones that you can have different looking ones under the same product line.

Sorry I wasn't more help.
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post Mar 19 2010, 12:25 AM
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A Steel Lynx is from 3rd edition, and relatively unchanged for 4th. A partial pic is available in SR4a on page 96 and can be helpful for a size reference as well.

The Doberman from 3rd edition you can expect to be a bit different for 4th as it's now a walker drone in 4th. AFAIK there's no pic for a 4th edition Doberman, yet.

Arsenal, page 102 has a good gauge on drone size classes and approximations for size. A Doberman, being a medium scale drone, can in theory look rather similar to a large dog since it's a walker, and because of its speed it could even have wheels instead of feet (discussed in another thread somewhere). But considering that there are likely half a dozen manufacturers for variants, any imaginative sketch based on a drone's vague description and listed gear should do just fine.
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post Mar 19 2010, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Mar 19 2010, 12:25 AM) *
A Steel Lynx is from 3rd edition, and relatively unchanged for 4th. A partial pic is available in SR4a on page 96 and can be helpful for a size reference as well.

The Doberman from 3rd edition you can expect to be a bit different for 4th as it's now a walker drone in 4th. AFAIK there's no pic for a 4th edition Doberman, yet.

Arsenal, page 102 has a good gauge on drone size classes and approximations for size. A Doberman, being a medium scale drone, can in theory look rather similar to a large dog since it's a walker, and because of its speed it could even have wheels instead of feet (discussed in another thread somewhere). But considering that there are likely half a dozen manufacturers for variants, any imaginative sketch based on a drone's vague description and listed gear should do just fine.


Thanks a lot bro, we just wanted a general idea. Love the way the steel lynx is done, dunno if i'll use that concept for the doberman since i'm actually putting one of those virtual pet personalities in it coupled to an agent (It's the woof woof death machine). Might need something cuter.

Now if I can get an idea on the Dalmation I'm solid. If only they had been less vague....
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post Mar 19 2010, 12:41 AM
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http://www.gods-inc.de/macavity/IsleOfShad...cles/index.html

You'll find the two I linked there, as well as a whole mess of others, including the Dalmatian. Ignore the stats as they're all for 3rd edition.
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post Mar 19 2010, 12:45 AM
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Also, with all the alternative models, you can always say they look the way you like as long as they are of roughly the same size and have the same stats.
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:14 AM
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The Steel Lynx is, basically, a mini-tank drone with a huge gun. Except instead of treads or wheels - it has legs WITH wheels. For bonus crawling around action. See: Here

Dobermen are now walker drones, and have big guns on them. I see them as kind of dog-drone, really. I'm having difficulty finding good pictures of them, but basically the dogbots from Deus Ex 2. They clomp around, look kinda spiffy, and have guns on their back. Also, the first few seconds/loadingscreen splash Here.

Remember that cyberspace designs are the king of Vectored Thrust drones. From the Dragonfly to the Dalmation, they've got hover-jets/fans/turbines to propel themselves around. I see the Dalmation as a sleek, fairly big(body 4, remember? Thats as big a a lynx). Kind of like a Predator UAV without wings, just 2-4 vectored thrust(Either 2 on the sides, or two front/2 back) engines to zoom it about. Like one of these, only smaller, more compact, and without guns.

Hope that helps.

Holy crap, spellbinder's link is really, really useful. Was all of that stuff really in 3rd edition, and if so, where can I find it?
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE (Udoshi @ Mar 19 2010, 04:14 AM) *
Holy crap, spellbinder's link is really, really useful. Was all of that stuff really in 3rd edition, and if so, where can I find it?


I can't say I read all the 3rd Ed books, since I wasn't around back then, but I've flipped through them. And I don't remember seeing even a 10% of that.
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 19 2010, 02:34 AM) *
I can't say I read all the 3rd Ed books, since I wasn't around back then, but I've flipped through them. And I don't remember seeing even a 10% of that.


I've been there before, just didn't expect them to have the art I needed. Most of it is custom stuff. You'll also find the gunblade from FF8 on there, a three shot revolver called the Earthshaker from some anime, and a pistol with a blade on it that looks badass.
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE (MatrixJargon @ Mar 18 2010, 07:39 PM) *
I've been there before, just didn't expect them to have the art I needed. Most of it is custom stuff. You'll also find the gunblade from FF8 on there, a three shot revolver called the Earthshaker from some anime, and a pistol with a blade on it that looks badass.


Gotcha, thanks. Still, I have to respect someone taking all that time to rip pictures and match them up with things.
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE (MatrixJargon @ Mar 19 2010, 02:39 AM) *
I've been there before, just didn't expect them to have the art I needed. Most of it is custom stuff. You'll also find the gunblade from FF8 on there, a three shot revolver called the Earthshaker from some anime, and a pistol with a blade on it that looks badass.


The pistol with the blade on it that you're referring to is actually from the Blade Trinity movie. Just FYI.
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post Mar 19 2010, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE (Navar @ Mar 19 2010, 01:56 AM) *
The pistol with the blade on it that you're referring to is actually from the Blade Trinity movie. Just FYI.


Thanks bro.

Like how your signature is an inside joke on our old campaign. Good times.
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post Mar 19 2010, 02:56 AM
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[img]http://www.unsayablejazer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/image_09.jpg[/img]

This makes a good doberman.
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post Mar 19 2010, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE (The Monk @ Mar 18 2010, 08:56 PM) *
[img]http://www.unsayablejazer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/image_09.jpg[/img]

This makes a good doberman.


Ah, AMEE. Yes, yes it does, just with a huge gun on top. Much better than what I linked.
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post Mar 19 2010, 03:33 AM
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QUOTE (Udoshi @ Mar 19 2010, 04:22 AM) *
Ah, AMEE. Yes, yes it does, just with a huge gun on top. Much better than what I linked.

Just make sure to remove the personality soft. Not a good idea to repeat the series of mistakes in that movie.
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post Mar 19 2010, 03:42 AM
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Add a panic button to it, like on the Renraku Manservent-3, if you're worried about it going berserk.
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post Mar 19 2010, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Mar 19 2010, 04:42 AM) *
Add a panic button to it, like on the Renraku Manservent-3, if you're worried about it going berserk.

The personality soft, tends to run the risk of it figuring out how to disable devices such as the "panic button". Curiosity, Sense of Self, Survival, and what not.

Besides some of us are still too paranoid to use even semi-intelligent or drones with meta-humanlike "personalities", since the SCIRE Incident.
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post Mar 19 2010, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Mar 18 2010, 07:42 PM) *
Add a panic button to it, like on the Renraku Manservent-3, if you're worried about it going berserk.


It's less likely to go berserk then to get suborned by the opposition - that's why I always add the Safe Target System (Arsenal, p33), which keeps the GM from turning my drone's weapons on the party.
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post Mar 19 2010, 07:22 PM
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Your Doberman could never turn against you if it had a personality soft based on K9 from Dr. Who.

All this talk about drone appearance has made me wonder about all Deus' drone designs from the arcology. The Medusa drone was always terrifyingly awesome.
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post Mar 20 2010, 01:49 AM
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QUOTE (MatrixJargon @ Mar 19 2010, 01:31 AM) *
Thanks a lot bro


I didn't know there were any bro's into SR...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8
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post Mar 20 2010, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE (Daylen @ Mar 20 2010, 02:49 AM) *
I didn't know there were any bro's into SR...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8


Oh, sorry. Thanks a lot Chummer
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