 What will happen with Sixth World Almanac?, And Midnight + Darkest hour... |
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 Mar 23 2010, 06:22 AM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872  |
With CGLs current dramas, will this ever see print? What about the other books?
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Mar 23 2010, 06:42 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
the patient will find out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Mar 23 2010, 10:38 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
Not good enough!
- J. |
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Mar 23 2010, 10:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392 |
As I understand it, the Dawn of the Artifacts series should continue once we get some freelancers caught up on payments. The Almanac is getting the assistance it needs, and it should be back at its fighting weight shortly. There may be some issues involved in paying for the printing--getting a book that pretty to press costs money!--but I was talking to management today about it, and it remains a priority.
Jason H. |
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Mar 24 2010, 12:16 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
...yeah, I'm not as optimistic as Jason is on this one, considering how much of the Sixth World Almanac was written by Jen Harding and myself.
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Mar 24 2010, 12:26 AM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
The items listed have currently been placed "on hold" in the production schedule until the issues stated by Jason and Bobby can be addressed. As it has been stated before, several freelancers have witheld copyright due to lack of payment and others have terminated their contracts entirely. The Director team is working with Jason to identify a solution and when one is found, I will return the items listed to the production schedule and the sellsheets will be updated with the anticipated release dates.
Until that time, I am unable to comment further on their status. |
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Mar 24 2010, 12:59 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Mar 23 2010, 04:16 PM)  ...yeah, I'm not as optimistic as Jason is on this one, considering how much of the Sixth World Almanac was written by Jen Harding and myself. Should I assume from your posting of the Awakened Haunts proposal that the potential SWA might contain such infos? Or does its inclusion in the Look Behind the Madness thread imply the opposite? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) |
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Mar 24 2010, 01:06 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Anything in that draft was well past the expiration date. It would still have been compatible with what I wrote in 6WA (and other places), but since I terminated my contracts with CGL, you won't see my material in that book if CGL publishes it. If CGL tanks before they publish, I might be able to sell the draft to the next company.
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Mar 24 2010, 01:15 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
I wish someone would just release the content for SoLA as a freebie. I mean its not like its going to see print anytime soon (and will be superceded/subsumed by SWA eventually).
- J. |
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Mar 24 2010, 01:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 27-March 08 Member No.: 15,819 |
I'm trying to get a handle on what print copies are available.
Is this correct- a few copies of Vice made it past the distributors, and Midnight never made it out of the Warehouse? |
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Mar 24 2010, 01:20 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
It's not like it hasn't been debated before, but the book was never even in layout, and finding some of the authors could be...difficult.
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Mar 24 2010, 01:27 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Mar 24 2010, 02:20 AM) It's not like it hasn't been debated before, but the book was never even in layout, and finding some of the authors could be...difficult. Mate, at this point I'd be bloody happy with a raw text file! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) - J. |
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Mar 24 2010, 01:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 332 Joined: 15-February 10 From: CMU Member No.: 18,163 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ Mar 23 2010, 08:27 PM) Mate, at this point I'd be bloody happy with a raw text file! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) - J. I know you jest, but any kind of release would cost a non-zero amount of money, so I don't think it could really be justified, especially with SWA in the pipe. |
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Mar 24 2010, 01:43 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (kjones @ Mar 24 2010, 02:35 AM) I know you jest, but any kind of release would cost a non-zero amount of money, so I don't think it could really be justified, especially with SWA in the pipe. My comments are tongue in cheek somewhat, but the fact is I am not kidding. - J. |
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Mar 24 2010, 02:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Mar 23 2010, 07:16 PM) ...yeah, I'm not as optimistic as Jason is on this one, considering how much of the Sixth World Almanac was written by Jen Harding and myself. No worries! It's being dealt with! Jason H. |
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Mar 24 2010, 02:17 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
My nearest translation to that is: there are plans to pay off any freelancers that are withholding copyright, and Jason is either sizing up people to rewrite my sections (and anybody else that terminated, not sure on all that) or girding his loins to write them himself. Which, given the freelancers I know that are left, might be the smart-monkey option...though I wouldn't be the person to ask, since my opinion of Jason's particular familiarity with the current Shadowrun universe and overall writing ability isn't as high as it could be on account of I'm still pissed at him.
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Mar 24 2010, 02:44 AM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
teaTime-the distributors were contacted last week regarding several of the items which had a cease and desist issued for them. Sales after receiving the C&D would be non-advisable and can be taken as a willful violation of copyright. Those decisions would be left to legal assets.
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Mar 24 2010, 03:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Mar 23 2010, 10:17 PM) My nearest translation to that is: there are plans to pay off any freelancers that are withholding copyright, and Jason is either sizing up people to rewrite my sections (and anybody else that terminated, not sure on all that) or girding his loins to write them himself. Which, given the freelancers I know that are left, might be the smart-monkey option...though I wouldn't be the person to ask, since my opinion of Jason's particular familiarity with the current Shadowrun universe and overall writing ability isn't as high as it could be on account of I'm still pissed at him. Ancient History, since you terminated your contracts—rather than just withholding copyright—does that mean that even if CGL does find the money, your work would no longer be included in the Sixth World Almanac ? |
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Mar 24 2010, 03:24 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 21-February 08 Member No.: 15,696 |
So...Vice was not supposed to be on the shelf?
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Mar 24 2010, 03:26 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392 |
QUOTE (Entropian @ Mar 23 2010, 10:24 PM) So...Vice was not supposed to be on the shelf? When it was released, people had not yet withheld their copyright--that happened afterward. Jason H. |
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Mar 24 2010, 03:27 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (MJBurrage @ Mar 24 2010, 03:16 AM) Ancient History, since you terminated your contracts—rather than just withholding copyright—does that mean that even if CGL does find the money, your work would no longer be included in the Sixth World Almanac ? If published by CGL, that is correct. If CGL closes doors, I can sell the draft to the next company, natch. |
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Mar 24 2010, 03:29 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
Well, that's definitely not a reassuring thing to hear. :\
Why do you hate us, Ancient History? :ь |
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Mar 24 2010, 03:31 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,458 Joined: 22-March 03 From: I am a figment of my own imagination. Member No.: 4,302 |
Darn, and that gave me a glimmer of hope that I had me a fancy not meant for print book on my shelf. Well, on the little stow space at the head of my rack (read: crappy navy bed).
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Mar 24 2010, 09:01 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Sounds as if 6WA could be the successor/inheritor to SoLA . .
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Mar 24 2010, 09:15 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 24 2010, 10:01 AM) Sounds as if 6WA could be the successor/inheritor to SoLA . . That is what I'm afraid of. - J. |
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