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Dreisechs
post Mar 25 2010, 09:39 AM
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Back then, I went to the computer pool at university to browse the Shadowrun Archive ... it was hosted in Italy. Printing PlasticWarriors books on a Star LC10. Trying to find out Gurth's real name =)

mongoose, I still have that shirt, and the SR:Assassin flyer you mailed me with my BABY ... good old times.
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post Mar 25 2010, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 25 2010, 04:41 AM) *
I may have underestimated slightly. Fortune used to be here when it was Deep Resonance, but I haven't seen him post in quite a while. Other than that, I can't actually name anyone who's still around. I kinda miss the days of ThatPaolo, Dvixen, mistress of the BanHammer, and when Bull would SMITE!™ your right testicle for mouthing off in his personal sub-forum. There's a certain legacy here, one that would be lost if we lose any of the longstanding greats.

I do not miss Dvixen as a Mod (had to change my screen name because of her)... What ever happened to her and ThatPaolo? I haven't been around for almost a decade.

As for Adam, he didn't work on any of the SR books directly for a long time. So what's to stop him from not working on any of the SR books directly again? It's his choice whether he stops with SR or not, also keep in mind he has a new baby 'Eclipse Phase'. Rehiring Adam isn't as necessary as you seem to indicate (sorry Adam ;-), SR worked fine before he worked directly on it, it will do fine without him.

Oh... And get of my damned lawn! ;-)
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post Mar 25 2010, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 25 2010, 03:02 AM) *
in high school in 1990.


Unless 9th Grade was the best 7 years of your life, I just felt a wee bit older, kid. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 25 2010, 11:51 AM
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Wow. This sure made me feel old. I was posting under a different name (which I can't for the life of me remember), but I was around back in the days of RN, the carpings, undernet, fifteen million irc games that never got past the meet because they all started at 1am, the Archive, and the beginnings of Deep Resonance.
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post Mar 25 2010, 12:30 PM
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Yep you blokes are old, old, old.

Codgers.

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Funny, I never really got into the online thing, I was far too busy cutting classes to play SR.

I do distinctly recall feeling like the end was nigh and SR had been ruined when FASA replaced that beautiful Big Blue Book with that nasty Big Black Book.

I've felt that way several times since, when FASA went under etc, etc.

This week has been particularly sucky. I'm very sad to see Adam and Jennifer go. I didn't know Adam at all and Jennifer only slightly but I liked her and respected her professionalism. It's hard to see products that you worked on, even only as a playtester, start to follow SoLA into the great garbage dump in the sky. I was shocked to see AH go as well, he's always struck we as pretty level headed, at least compared to Frank, I can only hope that this will turn out to be just the latest in a long series of 'Mark Twain'ian' false alarms.

That's a horrible turn of phrase but it'll annoy my wife so it can stay.
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post Mar 25 2010, 12:32 PM
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God you old folks, go back to the home already (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

We newbies respect the eff out of you old guys. This thread's starting to remind me of Jackpoint (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 24 2010, 09:41 PM) *
No snark: Are you part of the 1989 club as well? That's when I got my first Big Blue Book.

Yup. Had just gotten back from England, got myself stationed in Nebraska, and saw the original Elmore cover in November of 89 at Ground Zero Comics and Games in Bellevue. Been playing ever since.
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:23 PM
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Ordered my first BBB from Wargames West in 89, yes kids an actual newspaper style catalog no inter-tubes back then. No community or news outside of a few publications and your local gaming group. Every few months we'd drive a few hours to a game store and see if anything for our favorite games had been released, no release dates posted anywhere. Waregames West was a great catalog due to fact it would list upcoming products as well as available. Oh and heres a funny one. First rpg was a gift my second I ordered from a Sears catalog in the games section AD&D.
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:23 PM
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1991, I saw the book for the first time. I had only been RolePlaying for a year, and I fell in love with the game, which led to me attempting to run a session. Gawd, that was horrible. I really sucked at it at first. Ah well, still love the game and now I don't suck at running games nearly as much... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)


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post Mar 25 2010, 01:27 PM
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I got involved in 1997, but I've been playing double time since to catch up.
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:34 PM
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My first run was in the spring of 1993. Living in Germany, we got SR2 (2.01D as FanPro called it) some time later. I started to to hang around at the FanPro (Germany) board in the late 90s. About '98 or '99. I was the proud owner of a 56k modem then. I've been visiting about six to ten conventions per year for a decade now. Last year a player at a con asked me, since when I was playing SR and was shocked he wasn't even born then. But reading this topic, I feel young again.
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post Mar 25 2010, 02:02 PM
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I was twelve, it was 1993; summer vacation was just about to start. I went over to my friend Jeff's house and he had this book, it had a cow skull and an elf, and a guy in warpaint with two guns on the cover. Machine guns!. And trench coat armor! It was (and is) the coolest thing ever. I had no idea what table top gaming was, none of us did, but I wanted to learn.

In my eyes SR4 has been a Renaissance for the game and it's setting. SR4A is easily one of the best looking books on the store shelf and wonderfully suited to get new players off on the right foot. I've personally watched seven people become avid fans of the game over the last four months, having finally found a game that allows them to make pretty much any character type they like in a setting that is both familiar and at the same time deeply unique. The history alone has been enough to snag a few of them. One devoured the fiction in SR4A, then came to me and asked for more. He plays because he wants to be a part of that.

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post Mar 25 2010, 02:10 PM
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Guys. as much as I hate to disrupt the nostalgia, and would love to drop in some of my own, let's please keep this thread on topic. Uncle Bull is even older than Uncle Fisty (not by a lot) and isn't up for breaking up more threads. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 25 2010, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Mar 25 2010, 03:10 PM) *
Guys. as much as I hate to disrupt the nostalgia, and would love to drop in some of my own, let's please keep this thread on topic. Uncle Bull is even older than Uncle Fisty (not by a lot) and isn't up for breaking up more threads. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Can you guys split the thread up? With the nostalgia posts in a separate thread?
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post Mar 25 2010, 02:38 PM
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Edit: weird double post
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post Mar 25 2010, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Cergorach @ Mar 25 2010, 05:41 AM) *
As for Adam, he didn't work on any of the SR books directly for a long time.

Let's see if I can remember this correctly ... started playtesting in 1998 with SR3, first published in late 2000 in Target: Matrix, started working with FanPro on their site and some misc stuff in early 2001, started working at Guardians of Order fulltime in late 2002 [writing my parts of Sprawl Survival Guide in the GoO offices, after hours...] until late 2004, and then hit the ground running with a bunch of freelance for FanPro in early 2005.

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Rehiring Adam isn't as necessary as you seem to indicate (sorry Adam (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ,

Hell, I haven't even said it was necessary. [At the least, though, I'd make a very useful consultant to any new venture... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ]
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post Mar 25 2010, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (Cergorach @ Mar 25 2010, 03:41 AM) *
ThatPaolo?

Is that an alternate handle that Aaron used?
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post Mar 25 2010, 04:51 PM
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ThatPaolo would be Paolo Marcucci of the Shadowrun Archive.
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post Mar 25 2010, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 25 2010, 05:02 AM) *
Cain's got me bit by a bit. I made my first SR Character in high school in 1990. I didn't buy my own copy of SR till SR2 came out. I first got online in... '95? Early '96? It all blurs togther.

I need a new hobby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I got into SR back in the 1st Edition days with Dodger, Sally, and that sam whose name I keep forgetting on the front cover. I was still in high school. I was too poor to buy the hardcover so I bought the softcover and used my l33t cardboard cutting skills to make a nice sturdy cover for the book.

Got into BattleTech back in 7th grade... in 1987. I believe I got into SR in 1989/1990 time frame. First time online was 1996 after my wife & I started living together after being married for almost 8 months (yes we were married and still not living together, long story). Didn't search out Shadowrun online until much later though.
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post Mar 25 2010, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 25 2010, 05:22 PM) *
Let's see if I can remember this correctly ... started playtesting in 1998 with SR3, first published in late 2000 in Target: Matrix, started working with FanPro on their site and some misc stuff in early 2001, started working at Guardians of Order fulltime in late 2002 [writing my parts of Sprawl Survival Guide in the GoO offices, after hours...] until late 2004, and then hit the ground running with a bunch of freelance for FanPro in early 2005.

Hell, I haven't even said it was necessary. [At the least, though, I'd make a very useful consultant to any new venture... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ]

That's a good first decade of SR without Adam (with publishing credits) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Also, you might not want to mention your previous employers, bad mojo *grins evily* FASA => FanPro => Guardians of Order => CGL, guess what all those have in common...
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post Mar 25 2010, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (Cergorach @ Mar 25 2010, 01:26 PM) *
That's a good first decade of SR without Adam (with publishing credits) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Absolutely.

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Also, you might not want to mention your previous employers, bad mojo *grins evily* FASA => FanPro => Guardians of Order => CGL, guess what all those have in common...


Much less than you might think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 25 2010, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (Cergorach @ Mar 25 2010, 12:26 PM) *
That's a good first decade of SR without Adam (with publishing credits) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Also, you might not want to mention your previous employers, bad mojo *grins evily* FASA => FanPro => Guardians of Order => CGL, guess what all those have in common...


That I've enjoyed products they've produced? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 25 2010, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 25 2010, 02:04 AM) *
Try Megamek. It's Battletech completely without Books.


You really need the books, or to have memorized the rules, to play though. It is a java interface that allows you to play people that aren't at the same table as you and has digital maps and calculates out the rolls for you. However, MM has claimed a good amount of my life in its various incarnations so I can attest that if you are CBT fan it is a great place to play.
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post Mar 25 2010, 06:02 PM
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i can play just fine with just a rudimentary understanding of the rules . .
some stuff i do in there, i don't even understand and it still works . .
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post Mar 25 2010, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 25 2010, 11:38 AM) *
Much less than you might think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yeah, from first to last:

1) got out while the getting was good, owner sold a number of IP assets, passed others on to offspring, retired
2) blindsided by sourcing house sub-contractor bankruptcy and then drained in a doomed attempt to prop up owner's larger main corp
3) shoestring budget running at the borderline hammered into insolvency by currency fluctuation (a sharp rise in CDN$ vs US$ is very hard on Canadian companies exporting to the US)
4) accounting and operations "difficulties" have come to a crisis
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