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> Moderation on Dumpshock, Should there be an appeals process?
fistandantilus4....
post Apr 7 2010, 11:29 PM
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We're also generally a little more lax on things like use of "foul language". Perhaps more than we should be I suppose. We look at this as more of an adult community, which is reflected in the average age of the users. We keep things from getting overboard or regulalrly vulgar, but usually if its one post and not explicit, we let it slide.

As for contacting mods, the main issue is for a user that has had a ban, temporary or not, placed on their account, so that they cannot log in. For others, there is a Moderating Team button on the main forum page, in the Board Statistics section, that lists all the mods and has a PM button. Yeah it could be a little bigger/more glaring, but it's there to contact any and every mod via PM.

Bias is something we're aware of as well. Not just with things like Catalyst, but also with things such as Warning a User one mod or another has a particularly good or bad relationship with. In those cases, we're generally pretty clear where we stand, so the mod in question leaves the handling of whatever situation there might be to the others.
In the example of the infamous Coleman letter, Caine Hazen and Bull left it to Redjack and I after temporarily isolating it in a quarantine section. RJ and I have no vested interest in Catalyst one way or the other, so we handled it.

Oh, and btw, I know my handle is hard to spell. Sorry. Just want to make sure you're all paying attention. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Cain
post Apr 8 2010, 01:35 AM
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As for contacting mods, the main issue is for a user that has had a ban, temporary or not, placed on their account, so that they cannot log in. For others, there is a Moderating Team button on the main forum page, in the Board Statistics section, that lists all the mods and has a PM button. Yeah it could be a little bigger/more glaring, but it's there to contact any and every mod via PM.

This is exactly the problem. You said on the first page of this thread that there's an appeals process, but what good is it if you can't reach a mod while you're banned?
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post Apr 8 2010, 01:45 PM
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And that is the first test of your worthiness...
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post Apr 8 2010, 05:03 PM
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You've just met the Dweller of the Threshold. Congratulations.
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krainboltgreene
post Apr 10 2010, 06:30 AM
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I remind you of the Terms of Service, item 1

http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show...p;#entry629616)

I am giving you a warning.

You may respond to me or any other Mod via PM, once you reach ten posts, regarding this. A copy of this message is available to the Mods.
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Stahlseele
post Apr 10 2010, 07:31 AM
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That's because you are only a probationary member.
We've had some problems with spam-bots and this was installed to help with that problem.
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Paul
post Apr 11 2010, 11:11 PM
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Just a quick note. I was banned for about...2-3 years. I never received an email asking me anything about said ban.
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Caine Hazen
post Apr 11 2010, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE (Paul @ Apr 11 2010, 06:11 PM) *
Just a quick note. I was banned for about...2-3 years. I never received an email asking me anything about said ban.

That has something to do with the fact that you requested said ban... that said, how much trouble did you have contacting us about reinstatement of your account?
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fistandantilus4....
post Apr 12 2010, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (krainboltgreene)
I remind you of the Terms of Service, item 1

http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show...p;#entry629616)

I am giving you a warning.

You may respond to me or any other Mod via PM, once you reach ten posts, regarding this. A copy of this message is available to the Mods.

You currently have 6 posts total, counting this one. One of those you earned a warning for. So one in six posts was a personal attack.

And you're upset with us about how we do things?
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Cthulhudreams
post Apr 12 2010, 03:14 AM
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QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 1 2010, 04:29 AM) *
You'd almost think I did get a warning. Oh wait, I did. From the moderator I was defending no less. But nevermind that, let's continue to rally to get me a warning. That, you know, I already got. Rabble rabble rabble!


Then again, you where calling Frank a shifty little man in the other thread after you got the warning, so I'm not sure the warning was taken to heart?

In a related tangent, the forum unquestionably has modding double standards. It means that some useful contributors are dismissed and useless ones are kept and overall quality is decreased from potential. As doc funk said, fact of life, take it or leave it.
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Paul
post Apr 12 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Apr 11 2010, 06:25 PM) *
... that said, how much trouble did you have contacting us about reinstatement of your account?


I was completely unable to contact anyone. According to what I see I sent three emails. As for this part of your statement:

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That has something to do with the fact that you requested said ban...


This speaks miles about the type of moderation one can expect. I hope you understand my disappointment. (Not that it matters in any significant way-I am neither a prolific poster, nor a regular here, nor do i expect some sort of guilt on any ones part. I'm not totally unreasonable!)

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post Oct 23 2010, 06:20 AM
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Hmmm, it's been forever since I posted on DSF, but I remember collecting 9 hits off one of my first 3 posts. Bull handed me that warning for the argument I was having with him and Adam at the time. After nearly a year of not even lurking on here, & stewing over the argument, I realized I did in fact need a smacktard label on my forehead. It took some bonehead in Europe, with Bionic arms, getting himself killed to bring me back here.
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Method
post Oct 27 2010, 09:39 PM
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CeaDawg: that was before we standardized our policies for dealing with issues and giving warnings. For what its worth, your warn level is at zero now-a-days. Welcome back.
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pbangarth
post Oct 28 2010, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Oct 27 2010, 05:39 PM) *
For what its worth, your warn level is at zero now-a-days. Welcome back.
Is there a way to get that below zero, so you have credit for one or more assinine comments to be made at a later date?
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post Oct 28 2010, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (pbangarth @ Oct 28 2010, 05:12 PM) *
Is there a way to get that below zero, so you have credit for one or more assinine comments to be made at a later date?


That's generally known as a 'verbal warning', based off previous personal experience as a mod on another board.
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post Oct 28 2010, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Oct 28 2010, 01:08 PM) *
That's generally known as a 'verbal warning', based off previous personal experience as a mod on another board.

Methinks pbangarth would like to purchase indulgences for future sins.




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pbangarth
post Oct 29 2010, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 28 2010, 06:39 PM) *
Methinks pbangarth would like to purchase indulgences for future sins.
Yes, that was the idea.
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Method
post Oct 29 2010, 04:35 AM
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Hmmm... what are you offering as payment? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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pbangarth
post Nov 2 2010, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Oct 29 2010, 12:35 AM) *
Hmmm... what are you offering as payment? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
PM me with your price. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Nov 2 2010, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (pbangarth @ Oct 28 2010, 05:12 PM) *
Is there a way to get that below zero, so you have credit for one or more assinine comments to be made at a later date?

One might say that the very idea behind that question is warn-worthy... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Nov 3 2010, 03:07 AM
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I no longer have ready access to a computer, so my visits are few and my posts even more so. But I was suspended for two weeks and warned....twice, I think. I thought all three incidents were handled well.
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