and in this corner....?, Is there a power for good in the world? Options

[Stahlseele]

Well, because the corps would be trying to save their business, they would more or less be targetting vital matrix nodes of their enemies.
And try to keep their own business up and running while at it too. The simple reason why i don't think a total war between 2 or more Megacorporations would have too much influence on the rest of the world:
Because they all will hold SOMETHING back so they are still there when the smoke has cleared out. They simply all can't afford to risk it all.

[Sengir]

Well, it was shot into a building/the ruins of a building and below a kind of magical shield.

Subtactical warheads still clock in between 50 and 1000 tons TNT equivalent, and unless it is an EXTREMELY strong barrier, surrounding a nuke with something solid (Verdämmmung, dunno what what the English term is) will actually make it more powerful.

Of course explosive rules in SR are a different story, but the oddly small result of the Cermak nuke is also mentioned several times in canon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[fistandantilus4....]

i'd much rather have seen a more or less all out corp war instead of OH MY GOD TERRORISTS AND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!

Check out Shockwaves/Schokwellen. Proteus gets it on with a number of corps, including catching an Ares Thor Shot on the chin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Or for a slightly different example with an Omega order, check out Novatech/Neonet in System Failure and their dealings with a certain mad investor.

[Stahlseele]

Subtactical warheads still clock in between 50 and 1000 tons TNT equivalent, and unless it is an EXTREMELY strong barrier, surrounding a nuke with something solid (Verdämmmung, dunno what what the English term is) will actually make it more powerful.

Of course explosive rules in SR are a different story, but the oddly small result of the Cermak nuke is also mentioned several times in canon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Well, 1000t TNT is still 1kilo-ton, i would not consider that sub tactical warhead . . but then, what do i know?

Check out Shockwaves/Schokwellen. Proteus gets it on with a number of corps, including catching an Ares Thor Shot on the chin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Or for a slightly different example with an Omega order, check out Novatech/Neonet in System Failure and their dealings with a certain mad investor.

Yes, i know ^^
And i think there was another Omega-Order mentioned in one of the Novels . . Possibly the one with the old Decker Sly and the Callaway Corvette Twin Turbo and the technology to tap into fibre optical wires to intercept and change data in there.
After the M$ Shadowrun PC Game Debacle i had the idea that someone hires the runners of the group playing to more or less take over Microdeck and/or at least influence William Bonney Gates the third, a kinda proto-otaku i think, to break into the mainframes of several of the Tripple A Rated mega-corporations to plant evidence that one of the others was close to making a major breakthrough that would tip the scales massively in their favour so they can more or less take over the rest of the world market. In the mean-time microdreck-funds were to be used to massively buy stock in weapons corporations to make a pretty penny with, because those would become horribly valuable with an all out war between the other corps.
And of course, in the end, all leads that show up lead to microdeck, which then gets an omega-order to be carried out by what ever is left of the AAA-Corps.
Using Bill Gates and Microsoft as the Scapegoat for wordwide total corporate war for making a fortune with stock in weapons sounded like the perfect way to deal with me being upset with Micro$ucks over the Game.

[Sengir]

Well, 1000t TNT is still 1kilo-ton, i would not consider that sub tactical warhead . . but then, what do i know?

The SADM (not to be confused with the SADAM, who was more about chemical weapons) allowed the user to dial-a-yield between a few tons and one kT, all that in a nice 70kg package. Given that the primary delivery system for tactical nukes was the Starfighter, some people probably figured we needed a more reliable backup plan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[hermit]

I have to say I find an all-out corp war unfeasible. Corps do not have the manpower for more than semi-terrorist strikes, nor own the estate to make more than commando seek&destroy raid type attacks sensible. And the best way to hurt a corp is by destroying it's credibility, credit rating, and finances. Which involves pretty little weapons.

The closest thing I would consider feasible as a corp war would be something along the lines of the Opium War. Duking it out with a nation to force it's market open fortheir products. THAT could actually be fun.

I'd like to see a big, old-fashioned national war though. CAS versus Aztlan over an independent Texas fending for itself with Pueblo jumping in, being all cocky because things tended to drop into it's lap a lot. Secondary fighting between the CAS-backed manitou and Aztlan backed ALM, ect. Amazonia taking the chance and attacking Aztlan in the rear, the NAN splintering over whom to support or what to do, Pueblo throwing it in with the CAS, the UCAS maybe trying to enforce a reunification, that kind of action.

Good, old honest nation states at war. We've had enough of corp wars already, I think.

As for System Failure and the Crash 2.0: I think this was poorly executed,too. There needn't be a crash 2.0, anyway. The WMI would have taken on regardless, and it would be much more believable that anybody would finance it when the world economy had not collapsed entirely a few years back.

As for System Failure and the Crash 2.0: I think this was poorly executed,too. There needn't be a crash 2.0, anyway. The WMI would have taken on regardless, and it would be much more believable that anybody would finance it when the world economy had not collapsed entirely a few years back. I appreciate the trying to tie up loose ends, but I severely dislike how this was made into LOL new setting LOL.

And technomancers. Jeez. Hadn't you noticed Matrix was getting bloody old with the second movie? Not to mention that now, after AI ravaged the world thrice, everybody seems to love AIs. But that would be Emergence, so far the worst SR sourcebook ever released, trumping my old hate pet, Germany SB.

[Brazilian_Shinob...]

Well, Aztechnology does have the manpower for a standing army (considering that Aztechnology is an arm of Aztlan or the other way around, whichever you prefer).
Actually, I would like to see Amazonia taking over the southern countries, but this would be more a brazilian joke than anything.

[pbangarth]

I think you don't have to go any farther than events of the last decade or two to see how corps would wage war. Not on each other, and not for land (directly) or conquest. Take a look at how the IMF and the World Bank have manipulated countries' finances, delivering shocks to their economies upon which corporations have capitalized. The vast wealth of AAAs would allow them to manipulate political/military situations in this way.