Endowed Materialization and foci, what comes through along with you? Options

[D2F]

Ah, cool. I see why I missed it, too. The PDF search function seems to scan pages from right to left for some reason, and I didn't bother to keep searching when it found "projecting" at the end of the page under weapon foci. Weird. Anyway, it's a good thing I mentioned that "I admit I haven't looked very hard." But thanks for the needless emphasis to aid my apparent inability to read a forum post. Appreciate it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Despite, you know, the whole "I admit I haven't looked very hard" thing.

You're welcome. And the emphasis is not just for you, but also for those that just scan over posts. Helps in the speed reading.
You said you weren't sure, I provided info. There was no intention beyond that.

[pbangarth]

Nevermind some of the really outrageous things you can do with that poorly designed power which I don't want to touch upon for the sake of sane GMs everywhere.

Aww... come on. Let's trade insanity for insanity. It's not like anyone would actually use this stuff... right? Right? Oh.

That said, and assuming a strict GM (which is a safe assumption as a loose GM really wouldn't care one way or the other), I'd argue that the foci and other secondary astral forms don't make the transition unless the spirit specifically endowed Materialization to them (which is moot since they don't have the sentience required to use a power; but hey, there's Sapience they can endow, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif) ).

Except you can't be Endowed with more than one power at a time. So even if that bag of mojo became Sentient, it still couldn't get Materialization as well. Even if it wanted to clone back into the physical plane. Which it might not. I mean, if spirits can be hesitant to serve their bound master, so could sentient bags of mojo. Right?

"You never take me out any more. You used to fondle me nightly, now you just take me for granted. Well, well... go by yourself then! See if I care!"

[dirkformica]

Except you can't be Endowed with more than one power at a time.

I still contend that Endowment is on a per spirit basis, not a per Endowment basis. So if you have multiple great form spirits with Endowment, you can have multiple instances of Endowment on a single character.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I still contend that Endowment is on a per spirit basis, not a per Endowment basis. So if you have multiple great form spirits with Endowment, you can have multiple instances of Endowment on a single character.

That is definitely a way to read that, but it opens up the game for sever abuse... why would you wnat to deal with that?

Keep the Faith

[dirkformica]

To be honest, in my person opinion? Because that's fun.

<edit= I have not actually been a player in Shadowrun since 1st edition as a highschooler. I have recently gotten some long time friends to play Shadowrun, and I'm the GM.>

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

To be honest, in my person opinion? Because that's fun.

<edit= I have not actually been a player in Shadowrun since 1st edition as a highschooler. I have recently gotten some long time friends to play Shadowrun, and I'm the GM.>

Abusive Characters are Fun? Interesting Response... Can't argue with that I guess...
Well, have fun then...

Keep the Faith

[darthmord]

I still contend that Endowment is on a per spirit basis, not a per Endowment basis. So if you have multiple great form spirits with Endowment, you can have multiple instances of Endowment on a single character.

That is how I read the words as written in the rules.

Besides, players are pretty quick to pick up on not abusing spirits lest they get unwanted attention.