So is there any good information on the CAS?, A discussion about a seemingly information-lacking area Options

[Darkeus]

Well I can tell you it isn't in SoNA. There is no Aztlan section in SoNA, there isn't anything in the CAS section about them retaking the area. In fact, the CAS section has a mention of the recent setbacks that the Azzies have had making them vulnerable.

I didn't see any references to the Yucatan in the Pueblo section as well but I really only glanced over it.

As for Year of the Comet. I haven't read that thoroughly yet so that adds another book to my research. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[hermit]

There might also be some info in one of the SOTAs. The one with the merc stuff.

[Demonseed Elite]

Sorry, it's from SoLA. Pieces of the storyline (like the execution of the feathered serpent Dztibalchen) have found their way into other books and I imagine it'll be covered more in the Almanac.

[Darkeus]

Well I just read the part in the YOTC and it also says the same thing as Shadowrun Anniversary edition. YOTC pretty much states that the spirits of the area are at war and both the rebels and the Azzie army are broken. In military terms, that would mean both sides took heavy losses and had to retreat and regroup.

This does not sound like the Azzies are in control. In fact, no one is, it is all out spirit warfare.

[Demonseed Elite]

The SoLA material takes place in 2064, a few years after the slash-and-burn offensive that helped lead to the toxic spirits.

[Darkeus]

I do see in this SoLA section a small mention of it in the timeline but this is all pre-Crash 2.0. It really doesn't give much detail to say that it is a puppet government. Odds are it is but what page is this info on?

That is the real question. The Crash is gonna kick the Azzies in the balls. That SoLA concentrates more on the Sons of the Alamo and they kind of hint that they may do something like what I have planned, force the CAS to have to do something. The thing is, in my timeline, the Azzies stay mysteriously quiet. For the moment.

[Demonseed Elite]

I do see in this SoLA section a small mention of it in the timeline but this is all pre-Crash 2.0. It really doesn't give much detail to say that it is a puppet government. Odds are it is but what page is this info on?

Well, yeah, all of SoLA is pre-Crash 2.0. It takes place before System Failure. Most of the relevant information about the Yucatan is in the Yucatan draft, which I think Peter Taylor wrote. We're still working on contacting all of the writers so we can batch all of the drafts together.

[Darkeus]

Well, yeah, all of SoLA is pre-Crash 2.0. It takes place before System Failure. Most of the relevant information about the Yucatan is in the Yucatan draft, which I think Peter Taylor wrote. We're still working on contacting all of the writers so we can batch all of the drafts together.

Indeed. I just hunger for knowledge about the CAS and what happens in Aztlan is very important in Texas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

That's cool though. I just hope the info sets out soon!

[Whipstitch]

Or, you know, DC.

Yeah, I get what you mean about DC, but I still think it's worth noting that Atlanta becoming the capitol at a point in time where blacks aren't literally disenfranchised would have some interesting cultural impact even if legally speaking the result wouldn't be unlike situations already in place. There's always a temptation to just play to media-made stereotypes when jotting down area outlines, and yet there's Atlanta as the capitol of the new South, a city where minorities make up the majority and where one of the nation's largest LBGT communities has quietly formed up. Of course, on the other hand, if I remember correctly it also has one of the fastest growing white populations going, but of course white doesn't necessarily mean bigoted so... *shrug.* There's just so many directions it could go, and very few of them fit the common media stereotypes I think many people would go to first when trying to conjure up an image of the South. I dunno what it'd be like in SR's crazy alternate future, and that's what makes it so interesting.

[hermit]

Put that way, I see your point with Atlanta. I kind of had it booked off as a provincial capital among many.

[Darkeus]

I guess we ran out of sweet tea references.

So what would people like to see come out of the almanac that is supposed to be out eventually?

I really hope they stay consistent with the info presented in the write up of New Orleans, the info in SoNA, and the tension in Texas. A CAS, coming out of isolationist policies and all of the problems that involves.

[The Dragon Girl]

Something else that's not been factored in just yet, the para-animals. I know it's often overlooked, but the awakened animals have a pretty big impact. Alot of the south is still rual. Once you get outside the citys, (( in SR Terms, the sprawls)) You find the wild real quick down there. Not that bad today. You don't have to worry about bandersnatches popping off your head when you take out the trash, or awakened wolverines eating your face, A Bandit stealin' your car, or heaven forbid a Juggernaut coming though your house, or one of those awakened gators flipping your boat. lol

Not a "SUPER" huge thing in the sprawls, but I have to think it'd factor in a bit. In SR... Nature fights back, and she's pissed off.

Maybe not, but around here at least, coyotes have been reintroduced. I have some vivid memories of my momma standing in front of the house with a shot gun scaring off the pack of them that was prowling in our yard after our pets. There are also bobcats. And bears. I remember when the fifteen pound raccoon mauled my cat too -.- I dislike raccoons. Rattlers, copperheads, cotten mouths.. and of course round in florida and louisana ..gaters, and more snakes, snapping turtles..

We're not exactly unused to unfriendly wildlife already, just adds some more on top of that.

[Sharkman]

Did anyone come up with a map reference for CAS that is considered canon? Thanks.

[Darkeus]

Did anyone come up with a map reference for CAS that is considered canon? Thanks.

Not that I know of, supposed to be in the Almanac... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Red-ROM]

The Dismal swamp(North Carolina and Virginia) is huge and full of bears and all kinds of wildlife. Also, it can have underwater peat fires that are pretty interesting.

[DWC]

The Dismal swamp(North Carolina and Virginia) is huge and full of bears and all kinds of wildlife. Also, it can have underwater peat fires that are pretty interesting.

I can't imagine that the urban sprawl that is booming in the Triangle won't make its' way east, envelope the I-95 corridor, and turn eastern Carolina into more of the same office parks and tract housing that is coming to dominate the rest of the landscape. This is particularly true with the influx of refugees that the CAS would have seen.

[Mesh]

I wonder if, in the CAS, the people still revere Jerry Lawler and refer to the Carolinas as "Flair country?"

You think he's joking. Whenever the Carolina Hurricanes score a goal, Ric Flair pops up on the jumbotron, and the entire arena goes Wooo!

[Darkeus]

OH I know he is not joking!

[Angelone]

The Dismal swamp(North Carolina and Virginia) is huge and full of bears and all kinds of wildlife. Also, it can have underwater peat fires that are pretty interesting.

Underwater peat fires? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif) Going to have to research this. The only two southern states I lived in were Florida and Texas and I'm told they aren't really "The South". Is that a common opinion?

Oh yeah, sweet tea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Edit- Hmm... apparently a peat fire inspired the song "Smoke on the Water" if it's true and not Wikipedia lies I wholeheartedly approve of them. They can also burn/smolder for months or years at a time.

[The Dragon Girl]

'Round here we regard florida as mostly being full of old people from yankeeville >.> Never heard anyone say Texas wasn't southern though.

[MissingLink]

Some years ago I was running games based in Atlanta and did a little work on the Charlotte area. Being from NC myself I liked the idea of CAS based games. Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

[Red-ROM]

Underwater peat fires? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif) Going to have to research this. The only two southern states I lived in were Florida and Texas and I'm told they aren't really "The South". Is that a common opinion?

Oh yeah, sweet tea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Edit- Hmm... apparently a peat fire inspired the song "Smoke on the Water" if it's true and not Wikipedia lies I wholeheartedly approve of them. They can also burn/smolder for months or years at a time.

We had a wildfire in the swamp like 4 years ago or so, its pretty hard to put out, and worse, all the bugs in the swamp take a mad exodus into the surrounding neighborhoods. its pretty gross.

[Red_Cap]

Underwater peat fires? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif) Going to have to research this. The only two southern states I lived in were Florida and Texas and I'm told they aren't really "The South". Is that a common opinion?

Florida is often called "the Northern-most state in the South" because so many people who move there are from other parts of the country (mostly the Northeast). And most of them are retirees anyway.

Texas is most definitely in the South, but it was also one of only two states (the other being Hawaii) that was independent nation before becoming a state, and it remains the only state whose Constitution specifically grants them the right of secession if they don't like what's going on at the Federal level. So while Southerners are a proud folk, Texans are even worse (or better, depending on your point of view).

[Patrick Goodman]

Texas is most definitely in the South, but it was also one of only two states (the other being Hawaii) that was independent nation before becoming a state, and it remains the only state whose Constitution specifically grants them the right of secession if they don't like what's going on at the Federal level. So while Southerners are a proud folk, Texans are even worse (or better, depending on your point of view).

Emphasis mine.

Sadly, at least in my view, this is a common misconception, even within our state government (our alleged governor recently spoke of this right while pandering for votes, and he was thoroughly lambasted by both sides of the aisle).

We had, and I believe we still do have, the right to split into up to five different states (and some regions of the state have considered seceding from the rest of the state in the recent past), but this was mostly to answer the notion of balance between slave and non-slave states in the time just before the Civil War. But if we ever had the right to secede, and it's questionable, it was eliminated during Reconstruction.

Whether this is a good thing or not, I leave to other people to decide. Part of me wishes we did, but I can see how it would be a real problem for us if we tried.

[Red-ROM]

I think any state that suceded from the Union qualifies as a "southern state". but that being said, florida doesn't have any southerners left south of the pan handle, and the barbeque contest between Texas and Carolina has tensions high