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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,026 Joined: 13-February 10 Member No.: 18,155 ![]() |
Never having heard of that house rule, I'm not going to use it - I'll emphasize to karmagen players that this is my first time allowing or using the system - as written, before SR4A, it was overpowered. Please do not take it as a slight - because it is my first time, I want to run karmagen as close to RAW as possible, and I'll be giving Karmagen characters a relatively closer look than BP characters - both will be gone over with a fine-toothed comb, but I'll be going over karmagen characters a bit more; BP is fairly intuitive to me by now, karmagen ain't. Not a problem, I've already been stating out a character without free knowledge skills. He was also originally built by SR4A rules anyway, so no trouble there. As for the difference between karmagen and BP, it can be summed up as focused abilities versus broad talents. BP encourages concentration in stats, as it doesn't cost more to buy higher levels. Karmagen is the opposite. Buying more skills costs less than buying higher-level skills. --- Currently, he looks like mildly powerful adept (2 magic after a little augmentation). He has a fair number of knowledge skills, especially academic, to reflect his scholarly background. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 ![]() |
Fair. The lifestyle was a long shot. I can have the sheet done tonight, where do you want it? I'll PM my email. Minchandre: Check my profile. I have a number of contact options enabled. (I would *like* everything by email...Makes organization a lot simpler.) Hopefully, IM or something might work....? |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 ![]() |
Alright; I have some more specific char related questions, now. Sadly, I can't PM yet, and my plan of spamming the boards to get to 10 quickly was one I quickly reconsidered. Should I ask the questions here, or do you want to drop me an email line? I think my email should be in the profile. Otherwise, PM me yours and we can get going. By the way, all 4e books are allowed, right? (Specifically, Companion, Arsenal, and Unwired. Maybe Augmentation.) The 4e books you listed are all legal, though not everything may be useful. (Genetic stuff in partciular seems ICly very new, and possibly only the province of specialized clinics.) |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,026 Joined: 13-February 10 Member No.: 18,155 ![]() |
The 4e books you listed are all legal, though not everything may be useful. (Genetic stuff in partciular seems ICly very new, and possibly only the province of specialized clinics.) Oh, really? I was thinking of getting PuSHeD to reflect his background. (+1 to logic tests) >_> |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 ![]() |
That's my gut instinct, Faraday. As in, without digging through my books, that's how it seems.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Boulder, PCC Sector, Denver Member No.: 18,468 ![]() |
Apparently, probationary members aren't allowed to send email.
Anyway, I do HAVE an AIM account (minchandre), but I haven't used it in a long time. I can boot it up if you want, though. We could also use Skype (to chat). Finally, email always works and I check mine several times a day. Incidentally, what's your position on Availability <=12, but also F? Some GMs allow it, some don't, I've found. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,026 Joined: 13-February 10 Member No.: 18,155 ![]() |
That's my gut instinct, Faraday. As in, without digging through my books, that's how it seems. From what I've read, some genetic enhancements are legal, if expensive, and don't require significant searching. Some of them are hard to get, being more extreme and cutting-edge. Adapsin is so new, it's not even on the market. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 ![]() |
Apparently, probationary members aren't allowed to send email. Anyway, I do HAVE an AIM account (minchandre), but I haven't used it in a long time. I can boot it up if you want, though. We could also use Skype (to chat). Finally, email always works and I check mine several times a day. Incidentally, what's your position on Availability <=12, but also F? Some GMs allow it, some don't, I've found. Mmmm, I'll allow it. So far as communications: AIM is always a good idea.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 ![]() |
From what I've read, some genetic enhancements are legal, if expensive, and don't require significant searching. Some of them are hard to get, being more extreme and cutting-edge. Adapsin is so new, it's not even on the market. Yeah, that's basically where I'm confused. I can't figure out how "new" genetech is supposed to be. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,026 Joined: 13-February 10 Member No.: 18,155 ![]() |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New Jersey, USA Member No.: 500 ![]() |
There's a fair argument to be made in that regard, yes. I'll concede the point.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Boulder, PCC Sector, Denver Member No.: 18,468 ![]() |
Thinking ahead slightly, does anyone have a better suggestion for the boat itself than a Morgan Cutlass?
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 ![]() |
Grinder: Mmmm. Thinking on this. My instinct is to say "No karma", because characters very well could be noobs. Note that the 20 points "slack space" I gave for BP also applies to karmagen, equivalently in value. And for what it's worth, you aren't joining the Navy. You're, um...contractors.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 20 BP is not that much Karma. I was thinking of 50 Karma Points. Makes sense for the Navy to hire a bunch of competent guys, I guess. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) My fellow players, what's your stance on this? Btw, where can I download DamienKnight's XLS chargen sheet? |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,026 Joined: 13-February 10 Member No.: 18,155 ![]() |
My fellow players, what's your stance on this? As long as our GM recognizes we are roughly equivalent to new 400 BP characters, we'll be ok.Btw, where can I download DamienKnight's XLS chargen sheet? Character Generator |
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 ![]() |
As long as our GM recognizes we are roughly equivalent to new 400 BP characters, we'll be ok. You're supposed to be on my side, not the GM's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Thanks for the link! |
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 ![]() |
Will transfer my character build at the char sheet this week and likely modify a bit while doing it (just noted that my stats math was wrong).
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Dumorimasoddaa ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 ![]() |
I might post my build here as I think it could do with some optimization and such. Though I've yet to work out all mt DPs ect
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 ![]() |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 ![]() |
The Morgan Cutlass is a patrol boat in the main sourcebook, Xahn. SR4A p. 349. Arsenal has several viable options, many of which are superior to the Cutlass in one degree or another. Speed is something that's very important for both pirates and privateers, so that certainly shouldn't be overlooked.
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 ![]() |
Whatever it is, it needs Amenities. If we had more money on this loan, I'd suggest the Celebrian Striker. It's perfect for what we need, with Weapon Mounts, Drone Racks... We could probably put a MDS on it as well with that Improved Sensor Array! The description actually says "capable of independent action." All we need now is 2,000,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) . Mind you, if I was the UCAS Navy (and I could be), and I was hiring privateers, the idea of giving up a corvette to shadowrunners sounds... Iffy. I'd maybe do it, but don't expect the thing isn't so filled with trackers that Lone Star could actually find it without a map!
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 ![]() |
Instead of some massive, heavily armed ship, we could go with a single ship large enough to support the team and to act as a launcher for either smaller boats and/or jetskis. I'm not sure how the cost works out, but it could very well be a viable alternative. Not only would it let us have the speed and maneuverability to keep up with anything we encounter, but it let us flank targets and hit them from multiple sides while letting everyone who wanted to have their own vehicle and perform their own actions. The main ship could then sit in the background using long-range weapons while we zip around as tiny, hard to hit targets.
Could even throw in a small helicopter or two, too. Just something to consider. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 ![]() |
Instead of some massive, heavily armed ship, we could go with a single ship large enough to support the team and to act as a launcher for either smaller boats and/or jetskis. I'm not sure how the cost works out, but it could very well be a viable alternative. Not only would it let us have the speed and maneuverability to keep up with anything we encounter, but it let us flank targets and hit them from multiple sides while letting everyone who wanted to have their own vehicle and perform their own actions. The main ship could then sit in the background using long-range weapons while we zip around as tiny, hard to hit targets. Could even throw in a small helicopter or two, too. Just something to consider. Like a minicarrier? I'm for this idea! |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 20-March 05 Member No.: 7,194 ![]() |
Any one know where a quiver is stated out in the books? My elf character is going to be proficient with a bow and actually like to carry the arrows around in, besides sticking them into a backpack.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 ![]() |
It's one of those "they don't need stats" things. If you really need to do so, look up Smart Ammo Pouches in Arsenal and try to extrapolate something from that. It's about as close as you'll get as far as I know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 20-March 05 Member No.: 7,194 ![]() |
okey-dokey, thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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