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Samoth
post Apr 22 2010, 01:12 PM
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That is, unless you were going for a full cyber body?

1.5 essence for a "shell" (not a replacement) that still comes with physical stats of 3, which would require 99% of runners to pump more money into it to get the stats to match their physical norms. Torsos do have a decent amount of capacity, but you can't put actually useful things like hydrolic jacks or gyromounts in them. Well, I guess you probably could, but they wouldn't have any use. You can pump it full of armor, which I believe the max would be 10 points, but even then it would apply to the 1/5 rule for cyber armor, so you'd get an unimpressive +2/+2 for the expenditure. I guess it's great if you want to add 1 point to your condition monitor and put in multiple free internal air tanks...

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- Samoth   Why would anyone ever get a Cybertorso   Apr 22 2010, 01:12 PM
- - D2F   QUOTE (Samoth @ Apr 22 2010, 02:12 PM) Th...   Apr 22 2010, 01:18 PM
|- - Samoth   QUOTE (D2F @ Apr 22 2010, 01:18 PM) Artic...   Apr 22 2010, 01:22 PM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Samoth @ Apr 22 2010, 08:22 AM) I ...   Apr 22 2010, 01:25 PM
||- - Daddy's Little Ninja   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Apr 22 2010, 09:25 AM) If...   Apr 23 2010, 08:20 PM
||- - ClemulusRex   QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Apr 23 2010...   Apr 24 2010, 11:00 AM
||- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (ClemulusRex @ Apr 24 2010, 01:00 P...   Apr 24 2010, 11:35 AM
||- - ClemulusRex   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 24 2010, 12:35 PM...   Apr 24 2010, 02:17 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Samoth @ Apr 22 2010, 02:22 PM) I ...   Apr 22 2010, 01:25 PM
||- - Creel   QUOTE (D2F @ Apr 22 2010, 08:25 AM) Yes, ...   Apr 22 2010, 02:20 PM
|||- - D2F   QUOTE (Creel @ Apr 22 2010, 03:20 PM) Can...   Apr 22 2010, 02:24 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (D2F @ Apr 22 2010, 08:25 AM) Yes, ...   Apr 22 2010, 08:16 PM
|- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Samoth @ Apr 22 2010, 08:22 AM) I ...   Apr 22 2010, 01:26 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Samoth @ Apr 22 2010, 07:12 AM) Th...   Apr 22 2010, 01:24 PM
|- - Samoth   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 22 2010, 02...   Apr 22 2010, 02:57 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   A-yup.   Apr 22 2010, 03:03 PM
- - Werewindlefr   So you can put enough armor to soak heavy gauss fi...   Apr 22 2010, 03:11 PM
- - Banaticus   You don't understand, it's not a metahuman...   Apr 22 2010, 03:17 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Banaticus @ Apr 22 2010, 04:17 PM)...   Apr 22 2010, 03:27 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Banaticus @ Apr 22 2010, 09:17 AM)...   Apr 22 2010, 03:32 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Apr 22 2010, 11:32 AM)...   Apr 22 2010, 03:43 PM
||- - Creel   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 22 2010, 10:43 AM) ...   Apr 22 2010, 03:49 PM
|||- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Creel @ Apr 22 2010, 10:49 AM) I w...   Apr 22 2010, 04:22 PM
|||- - Creel   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 22 2010, 11...   Apr 22 2010, 05:13 PM
||- - D2F   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 22 2010, 04:43 PM) ...   Apr 22 2010, 03:55 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (D2F @ Apr 22 2010, 11:55 AM) What ...   Apr 22 2010, 04:37 PM
|- - Creel   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Apr 22 2010, 10:32 AM)...   Apr 22 2010, 03:47 PM
- - Dumori   I'd just have my armor and shield possessed wi...   Apr 22 2010, 03:35 PM
- - kjones   10 points of armor is not enough to soak a Gauss c...   Apr 22 2010, 04:01 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (kjones @ Apr 22 2010, 05:01 PM) 10...   Apr 22 2010, 04:16 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Either way, it's still a silly amount of armor...   Apr 22 2010, 04:27 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 22 2010, 10:27 AM...   Apr 22 2010, 04:46 PM
- - Mesh   How about someone's body is crushed and mangle...   Apr 22 2010, 04:31 PM
- - Dumori   If you can take full cyber i'm sure a pain edi...   Apr 22 2010, 04:41 PM
- - Banaticus   So, how do we go about changing that armor into ha...   Apr 22 2010, 04:58 PM
|- - Patrick the Gnome   QUOTE (Banaticus @ Apr 22 2010, 11:58 AM)...   Apr 22 2010, 05:01 PM
||- - tagz   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Apr 22 2010, 05...   Apr 22 2010, 08:38 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Banaticus @ Apr 22 2010, 05:58 PM)...   Apr 22 2010, 05:02 PM
- - Patrick the Gnome   Doesn't cybertorso give +2 boxes to the damage...   Apr 22 2010, 04:58 PM
- - Dumori   thats where the possession comes in.   Apr 22 2010, 04:58 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Dumori @ Apr 22 2010, 06:58 PM) th...   Apr 22 2010, 05:02 PM
- - Banaticus   Well, something was able to tamp down the effect o...   Apr 22 2010, 05:33 PM
|- - Patrick the Gnome   QUOTE (Banaticus @ Apr 22 2010, 12:33 PM)...   Apr 22 2010, 05:44 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Banaticus @ Apr 22 2010, 06:33 PM)...   Apr 22 2010, 05:45 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Melee hardening has nothing to do with hardened ar...   Apr 22 2010, 05:43 PM
- - Godwyn   Really, it would depend on the size of the nuke. ...   Apr 22 2010, 07:08 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   just to get back to the original topic: Doesn...   Apr 22 2010, 08:19 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Apr 22 2010, 04:19 P...   Apr 22 2010, 08:22 PM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Apr 22 2010, 08:19 P...   Apr 24 2010, 01:00 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Not really. It just means your internal organs ar...   Apr 22 2010, 08:25 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   I can see a case for body given most of the meat o...   Apr 22 2010, 08:29 PM
- - ClemulusRex   The attributes question for cyber skulls/torsos ha...   Apr 22 2010, 09:33 PM
- - Draco18s   Or that somehow your cyberskull is as equally impo...   Apr 22 2010, 09:41 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   In groundfighting at least it is.   Apr 22 2010, 09:43 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   It's one of the many rules where you have to s...   Apr 22 2010, 09:45 PM
- - tagz   I've been thinking of just playing with a hous...   Apr 22 2010, 09:52 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   I generally just go with being very liberal in dec...   Apr 22 2010, 10:12 PM
|- - Creel   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Apr 22 2010, 05...   Apr 22 2010, 10:23 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Creel @ Apr 22 2010, 11:23 PM) Arm...   Apr 23 2010, 12:09 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Creel @ Apr 23 2010, 12:23 AM) Arm...   Apr 23 2010, 08:00 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Yeah I understand where he is coming from as well,...   Apr 23 2010, 03:09 AM
- - Abschalten   My solution was always to keep the ratings of the ...   Apr 23 2010, 04:36 AM
- - Stahlseele   Articulated full arms are one thing and bloody obv...   Apr 23 2010, 05:07 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   There is only one articulated weapon-arm in SR4. N...   Apr 23 2010, 05:16 PM
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- - Stahlseele   Well, the shoulder-mount i can understand. Bigges...   Apr 23 2010, 06:44 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 23 2010, 07:44 PM...   Apr 23 2010, 06:59 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Shouldn't a Predator's weapons either be m...   Apr 23 2010, 06:47 PM
- - Stahlseele   No, the Weapons were all equipment. All Technolog...   Apr 23 2010, 06:51 PM
|- - Samoth   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 23 2010, 07:51 PM...   Apr 23 2010, 06:55 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   An Ares Redline laser pistol would work on the sho...   Apr 23 2010, 06:55 PM
- - Stahlseele   Ah, right, i forgot about great leaping. But it...   Apr 23 2010, 07:03 PM
- - Patrick the Gnome   If you want the predator, why give him cyber at al...   Apr 23 2010, 08:07 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Patrick the Gnome @ Apr 23 2010, 09...   Apr 23 2010, 09:47 PM
- - Omenowl   Simple explanations of having all cyberlimbs are h...   Apr 24 2010, 12:33 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   If cyberware existed in the real world that perfor...   Apr 24 2010, 12:38 PM
- - Stahlseele   Yeah, put your body on autopilot till you are at w...   Apr 24 2010, 12:40 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 24 2010, 08:40 AM...   Apr 24 2010, 04:24 PM
- - Stahlseele   DAKKA < = see? i can =^.^= Also: No, the Torso...   Apr 24 2010, 01:12 PM
- - Rasumichin   Possible, but that would leave the user with the n...   Apr 24 2010, 01:20 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Considering how much Essence it eats up, it's ...   Apr 24 2010, 01:21 PM
- - Samoth   And since it has capacity, it must replace some pa...   Apr 24 2010, 02:11 PM
- - Dumori   Born rich and in debt might help. If I was a GM an...   Apr 24 2010, 02:27 PM
- - Teulisch   what it sounds like you need, is a cyberware suite...   Apr 24 2010, 03:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   "Rivals... No one rivals Doom! NO ONE...   Apr 24 2010, 04:47 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 24 2010, 06:47 PM...   Apr 26 2010, 05:47 PM
- - BishopMcQ   How about for the additional smuggling capacity on...   Apr 25 2010, 01:07 AM
- - Omenowl   Any major skull fracture would require a steel pla...   Apr 25 2010, 03:34 AM
- - knasser   One thing that's always bugged me in the cyber...   Apr 25 2010, 02:22 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Yeah, the lack of a Synthetic Cyberskull has alway...   Apr 25 2010, 03:53 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Odd... After looking in my copy of Augmentation, I...   Apr 25 2010, 04:16 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 25 2010, 05...   Apr 25 2010, 04:39 PM
|- - RedFish   QUOTE (knasser @ Apr 25 2010, 05:39 PM) H...   Apr 25 2010, 04:41 PM
||- - knasser   QUOTE (RedFish @ Apr 25 2010, 05:41 PM) D...   Apr 25 2010, 05:00 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (knasser @ Apr 25 2010, 10:39 AM) H...   Apr 25 2010, 04:41 PM
- - Stahlseele   I'm pretty sure all limbs allways were and sti...   Apr 25 2010, 04:17 PM
|- - D2F   n/m, I read Tymeaus' post too late.   Apr 25 2010, 04:38 PM
- - Shrike30   IIRC there's a printing of the main book that...   Apr 26 2010, 05:27 AM
- - Samoth   I read through the rules again: By RAW, the max a...   Apr 26 2010, 03:55 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Think of it as a last ditch choice, rather than th...   Apr 26 2010, 03:59 PM
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