Second Skin + Jammer = Nudity violation? |
Second Skin + Jammer = Nudity violation? |
Apr 27 2010, 10:15 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 6-March 10 Member No.: 18,252 |
Simple question. If a Second Skin suit is hit by a powerful jammer, will it be jammed?
And, at that, would it display all opaque static, or be blanked and transparent? |
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Apr 27 2010, 10:34 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 14-June 09 Member No.: 17,280 |
From my understanding the tech doesnt work like that. The way it was presented in 3rd edition is that there are a bunch of cameras built into the suit that use the pictureto produce a skin color scheme for certain portion of the suite. So the suite is more like a 3rd flexable TV screen then anything else. since you can't see through a TV screen you wouldnt look nekked. You could however use a digital image of your nekked self and put it into the suits programming to be used to show various levels of undress. its just wouldnt be showing your actual naked body but a picture of what it looked like at one point.
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Apr 27 2010, 10:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Boulder, PCC Sector, Denver Member No.: 18,468 |
If jammed, I would imagine it would just keep displaying whatever it was told to last, or revert to some sort of "I'm not in contact with your PAN right now" setting.
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Apr 27 2010, 10:39 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526 |
I keep picturing someone standing there embarrassed with a thousand little 404s scrolling continuously across their entire body.
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Apr 27 2010, 10:45 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
I keep picturing someone standing there embarrassed with a thousand little 404s scrolling continuously across their entire body. Hehe, that's great. But yeah, I agree, I see no reason that the second skin would simply display you naked. It'll either have whatever it is supposed to be displaying in local memory (With infinite memory, why not?) or revert to some kind of 'standard' display. No company would make it far (in that product) if every time someone wearing their product dropped their commlink or walked through a jammed zone, they were suddenly rendered naked. I think being stuck on whatever it was last set up to display is by and far the most likely result of a jamming. |
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Apr 27 2010, 11:01 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 |
Why would it? A device doesn't Stop functioning just because it isn't talking to another. You just cant tell it to do something different/change the settings without a connection. (If you were using your Second Skin suit's chameleon setting to stream network advertisements to get money, then yes, that wireless connection would go away.)
This is why you skinlink your stuff. Its 50 cred. Seriously. |
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Apr 27 2010, 11:25 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
Honestly people. It does this. I mean really.
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Apr 28 2010, 02:47 AM
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Target Group: New Member Probation Posts: 3 Joined: 31-March 10 Member No.: 18,390 |
Honestly people. It does this. I mean really. I suppose that's Shadowrun's equivalent of Second Life. Would that make it Sixth Life? |
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Apr 28 2010, 02:51 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Apr 28 2010, 10:09 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
Hmm
Would be fun if someone with incompetence with electronics wore the chameleon suit inside out and the cameras presented what they saw... He would THINK he was invisible... |
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Apr 28 2010, 12:24 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
Hmm Would be fun if someone with incompetence with electronics wore the chameleon suit inside out and the cameras presented what they saw... He would THINK he was invisible... Except if he wore it inside out, all the screens would be on the inside as well, so it'd just look like he was wearing a suit inside out. Even if there were screens on both sides, it'd be too dark for them to see the guy's body. I also imagine it is fairly difficult to get an armored high-tech suit to even turn inside out, much less get it on at that point. |
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Apr 28 2010, 12:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 1-September 09 From: Denmark Member No.: 17,583 |
Get real guys. You'd get this situation: http://www.garbageetc.com/wp-content/uploa...2009-125503.jpg
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Apr 29 2010, 04:50 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
This makes me wonder what kind of a moron would link his 2nd skin into his PAN via wireless. Few clothes are so obviously meant to be used with a SkinLink.
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Apr 29 2010, 04:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 211 Joined: 25-March 10 From: Los Angles(Near Lax) Member No.: 18,360 |
This makes me wonder what kind of a moron would link his 2nd skin into his PAN via wireless. Few clothes are so obviously meant to be used with a SkinLink. I am with you on this. Skinlink it. No wireless reception at all. "The pan you are trying to reach is no longer in service or just doesn't want to f**king talk to you, have a nice day, good bye" I have character that would skinlink there toothbrush if they could. |
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Apr 29 2010, 05:21 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Actually, all my characters' gear is de-WIFI'd as a standard until noted otherwise. You'd have to be an epic moron in the Shadowrun world where hundreds of thousands were eaten by AI already to treat this as casually as RL people do, n a world where so far, not very many people have been killed by someone hacking their pacemakers (though it IS possible and I am just WAITING for this to happen).
This whole "let's make everswhing WiFi, WOOOOO!" is horribly idiotic in a world where a common awakened Pest powerbolts any radio source, anyway. Not to mention it would royally suck if your car stopped working every time there was a thunderstorm or smething. |
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Apr 29 2010, 05:26 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 |
One thing I've been wondering about the Second Skin. With the ruthenium polymer upgrade, can you use it like a slightly cheaper, less encumbering Chameleon Suit? Its 4/1 armor instead of 6/3, which means slightly less encumbrance when compared to Body, plus the side effect of looking like a james bond villianess.
Sure, sure, the situations where you'd want to use it instead aren't very common, that two-point difference can be the difference between a penalty and not for characters with low body when combined, with, say, FFBA. I didn't see anything in the description about the sensor suite which lets Chameleon suits replicate the surrounding environment - and since this seems to be the thread for it, wondering if anyone else has an opinion on the matter. |
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Apr 29 2010, 06:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 490 Joined: 29-August 06 From: Texas Member No.: 9,245 |
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Apr 29 2010, 06:58 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE One thing I've been wondering about the Second Skin. With the ruthenium polymer upgrade, can you use it like a slightly cheaper, less encumbering Chameleon Suit? Its 4/1 armor instead of 6/3, which means slightly less encumbrance when compared to Body, plus the side effect of looking like a james bond villianess. You'd need a helmet, because it doesn't cover the head. As the helmet weighs in too, it's the same encumberance. |
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Apr 29 2010, 10:35 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
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Apr 30 2010, 07:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 250 Joined: 16-January 09 From: Nowhere near you... unless you happen to be near Cologne. Member No.: 16,776 |
Uhmm, you do know that the thing is called "second skin" for a reason?
According to the description in Arsenal it isnt't leaving very much of your body up to the imagination of any observer even when fully operational. If you are afraid of being naked in public you don't wear such things in the first place. And combining second skin with other armors should be right out. At least if you want to use the ruthenium polymer camouflage since than second skin needs to be the outermost armor layer. -CJ |
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Apr 30 2010, 04:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 211 Joined: 25-March 10 From: Los Angles(Near Lax) Member No.: 18,360 |
Uhmm, you do know that the thing is called "second skin" for a reason? According to the description in Arsenal it isnt't leaving very much of your body up to the imagination of any observer even when fully operational. If you are afraid of being naked in public you don't wear such things in the first place. And combining second skin with other armors should be right out. At least if you want to use the ruthenium polymer camouflage since than second skin needs to be the outermost armor layer. -CJ second skin can be used under clothing as well and it being programable help with fashion. You can make it transparent or use to simulate a stockings you name it. |
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