 Shadowrun featured in Game Trade Magazine cover story, Another news post by Hardy? What the hell? |
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 May 7 2010, 06:27 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392  |
I wouldn't keep posting stuff like this, but stuff keeps happening, so what can I do? Buried in one of the many CGL speculation threads is a brief article I wrote about what I feel are some of Shadowrun's strengths and what good things related to Shadowrun are currently happening. That article is now the cover story of Game Trade Magazine, and along with the words there are some great art previews, including a glimpse at the cover art for the Sixth World Almanac. Want to see it? Go to the main article (but don't skip the earlier link, because there's a cool new piece of art there, too). The cover preview is next to the text about the Sixth World Almanac, of all places. Enjoy!
Jason H. |
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May 7 2010, 07:25 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
OK, if the 'preview' is just the art, it's a nice piece of artwork.
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May 7 2010, 09:45 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Didn't I already rant about your rough draft for that piece?
[/edit]I did. I originally wanted to take it apart line by line, but restrained myself. I will say that "magic cyberpunk noir" is the stupidest description Shadowrun's ever had. I mean noir? At what point do we go "Down these mean streets a metahuman must run who is not himself mean"? Bullshite. |
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May 7 2010, 10:21 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 12-November 09 From: Brno Member No.: 17,868 |
Must... have... the Sixth World Almanac artwork! Preferably as a big poster in my room.
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May 7 2010, 10:26 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 16-March 10 Member No.: 18,297 |
QUOTE (BookWyrm @ May 7 2010, 11:25 AM)  OK, if the 'preview' is just the art, it's a nice piece of artwork. Tell us how you really feel, AH. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) |
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May 7 2010, 10:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 704 Joined: 20-November 06 From: The seemingly unknown area of land between Seattle and Idaho. Member No.: 9,910 |
QUOTE (Sheala @ May 7 2010, 05:21 PM) *deleting double post* Wow, you really want that poster, don't you? |
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May 7 2010, 10:37 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 12-November 09 From: Brno Member No.: 17,868 |
QUOTE (crash2029 @ May 7 2010, 11:26 PM) Wow, you really want that poster, don't you? I swear, the gremlins did that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And yes, you are completely true ofc. |
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May 7 2010, 10:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 11-March 10 Member No.: 18,276 |
QUOTE (crash2029 @ May 7 2010, 03:26 PM) Wow, you really want that poster, don't you? To hell with the poster... someone introduce me to the model who posed for it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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May 7 2010, 10:47 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 7 2010, 03:45 PM) Didn't I already rant about your rough draft for that piece? [/edit]I did. I originally wanted to take it apart line by line, but restrained myself. I will say that "magic cyberpunk noir" is the stupidest description Shadowrun's ever had. I mean noir? At what point do we go "Down these mean streets a metahuman must run who is not himself mean"? Bullshite. o.O <gives you a hug> |
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May 7 2010, 11:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Southern CA Member No.: 8,574 |
In my purely informal survey of WoD vs DnD 3.5 vs DnD 4.0 vs Shadowrun (based on torrent frequency), I'm showing Shadowrun leading at about 2.5 times either WotC game and ahead of White Wolf's game. I'm also showing 3.5 leading over 4.0. Although WotC's books sell better, so perhaps WotC players are more honest or their products are played more in real life and less over the internet where people can see whether or not you actually have the book? Anyway, Shadowrun is definitely leading in the torrent competition according to me.
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May 8 2010, 02:34 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
QUOTE (Banaticus @ May 7 2010, 06:00 PM) Anyway, Shadowrun is definitely leading in the torrent competition according to me. And your involvement in the torrent scene is purely academic and limited to the purpose of gauging the relative popularity of Tabletop RPG brands, I trust? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif) |
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May 8 2010, 03:12 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
Which one is the SWA cover art? I thought it was the third piece in the article (after the SR4A and Runner's Toolkit covers); is it actually the magazine cover piece as Wandering One thinks?
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May 8 2010, 03:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 7 2010, 10:12 PM) Which one is the SWA cover art? I thought it was the third piece in the article (after the SR4A and Runner's Toolkit covers); is it actually the magazine cover piece as Wandering One thinks? The 6WA cover is the one next to the text describing 6WA; the cover piece will be the cover of another project. Jason H. |
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May 8 2010, 03:22 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
Awesome! In that case, I second Sheala. You should totally release that piece as a poster.
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May 8 2010, 03:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 7 2010, 10:22 PM) Awesome! In that case, I second Sheala. You should totally release that piece as a poster. We had a discussion about precisely that topic as soon as we all saw the piece. Jason H. |
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May 8 2010, 03:28 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ May 7 2010, 10:34 PM) And your involvement in the torrent scene is purely academic and limited to the purpose of gauging the relative popularity of Tabletop RPG brands, I trust? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif) Maybe you give him the benefit of the doubt. You know the whole "Innocent until proven guilty" deal. |
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May 8 2010, 04:32 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 21-February 10 Member No.: 18,187 |
I thought covers on trade magazines were bought as advertising? Is this not right?
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May 8 2010, 05:36 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
QUOTE (Keats @ May 8 2010, 12:32 AM) I thought covers on trade magazines were bought as advertising? Is this not right? They are. Bought or bartered. |
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May 8 2010, 05:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Southern CA Member No.: 8,574 |
QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ May 7 2010, 06:34 PM) And your involvement in the torrent scene is purely academic and limited to the purpose of gauging the relative popularity of Tabletop RPG brands, I trust? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif) Of course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You can go to torrenting sites and see how many seeds and how many leechers there are for any given product. I look for the "group packs" that have multiple book files in a single torrent file. |
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May 8 2010, 08:33 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
If we're going down the route of sexy-woman covers, I prefer that of the Runner's Companion - that woman was a beautiful and mean looking girl with arms that looked like they could throw a punch, reclining in a "this is my turf" sort of pose. The woman on the new cover looks like she's posing for the cover of Weapons World 2069 - collagen lips, big eyeshadow and a "display-cabinet" rubber top. And her pose is a real magazine cover one. Seriously, here's a home experiment worth trying: stand in the position that woman is standing in and see what persona you feel you're putting on - really, try it. Then you'll find her as funny as I do. Make sure to get the lean forward and the slight inward knee. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I don't completely dislike the cover - it's massively better than Augmentation for a start. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) As regards the description of Shadowrun as "magic cyberpunk noir", I don't dislike the noir so much (though that only covers one style of Shadowrun play), but I dislike the description "cyberpunk". Cyberpunk is a small sub-genre that flowered briefly in the Eighties which was thirty years ago. And it was cheesy then. Obviously opinions are my own. K. |
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May 8 2010, 10:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 17-February 09 Member No.: 16,889 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 7 2010, 11:45 PM) Didn't I already rant about your rough draft for that piece? [/edit]I did. I originally wanted to take it apart line by line, but restrained myself. I will say that "magic cyberpunk noir" is the stupidest description Shadowrun's ever had. I mean noir? At what point do we go "Down these mean streets a metahuman must run who is not himself mean"? Bullshite. Every RPG is what a group makes of it. Nothing more, nothing less. As such, I agree that its stupid to link a system with a certain style, but I don't doubt that it would be possible to play SR as "magic cyberpunk noir". That being said, I'd be interested in your take on the article. Especially since I now wonder in what way JM Hardy's personal opinion might color future releases (esp. the 6th World Almanach). |
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May 8 2010, 12:39 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE (knasser @ May 8 2010, 10:33 AM) If we're going down the route of sexy-woman covers, I prefer that of the Runner's Companion - that woman was a beautiful and mean looking girl with arms that looked like they could throw a punch, reclining in a "this is my turf" sort of pose. The woman on the new cover looks like she's posing for the cover of Weapons World 2069 - collagen lips, big eyeshadow and a "display-cabinet" rubber top. And her pose is a real magazine cover one. Seriously, here's a home experiment worth trying: stand in the position that woman is standing in and see what persona you feel you're putting on - really, try it. Then you'll find her as funny as I do. Make sure to get the lean forward and the slight inward knee. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I don't completely dislike the cover - it's massively better than Augmentation for a start. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) As regards the description of Shadowrun as "magic cyberpunk noir", I don't dislike the noir so much (though that only covers one style of Shadowrun play), but I dislike the description "cyberpunk". Cyberpunk is a small sub-genre that flowered briefly in the Eighties which was thirty years ago. And it was cheesy then. Obviously opinions are my own. K. I can second all Khadim writes. *chuckles* Display cabinet type top. I gotta memorise this one. And almost anything is better than the Poser 3 botch job of Augmentation. Not the German naked borgified elf in dayglo liquid, though. Personally, I'd describe Shadowrun as near-future urban magic. QUOTE The 6WA cover is the one next to the text describing 6WA; the cover piece will be the cover of another project. Could it be the boo-scary Shadowrun book of the night? |
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May 8 2010, 12:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 11-April 10 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 18,443 |
QUOTE (knasser @ May 8 2010, 04:33 AM) If we're going down the route of sexy-woman covers, I prefer that of the Runner's Companion - that woman was a beautiful and mean looking girl with arms that looked like they could throw a punch, reclining in a "this is my turf" sort of pose. The woman on the new cover looks like she's posing for the cover of Weapons World 2069 - collagen lips, big eyeshadow and a "display-cabinet" rubber top. And her pose is a real magazine cover one. Seriously, here's a home experiment worth trying: stand in the position that woman is standing in and see what persona you feel you're putting on - really, try it. Then you'll find her as funny as I do. Make sure to get the lean forward and the slight inward knee. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I don't completely dislike the cover - it's massively better than Augmentation for a start. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) As regards the description of Shadowrun as "magic cyberpunk noir", I don't dislike the noir so much (though that only covers one style of Shadowrun play), but I dislike the description "cyberpunk". Cyberpunk is a small sub-genre that flowered briefly in the Eighties which was thirty years ago. And it was cheesy then. Obviously opinions are my own. K. Hey, nothing screams shadows like bright yellow caution tape and a gleaming red laser. Plus you can see part of her boobs, and that's cool. Mesh |
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May 8 2010, 01:05 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I really liked the cover for Runners Toolkit as shown. Hopefully that stays. I'm glad that the cover art has at least come a long ways from Corp Enclaves and the dreaded first SR4 Core book. Ugh. Hopefully the content will be up to par.
Note: Deleted Sheala's Double Post. |
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May 8 2010, 01:14 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Hhmm, well the art from the cover (Lady With Large Weapons) isn't really to my taste. It's just a little too blatant for me personally.
The cover for the Sixth World Almanac with the Mayan calendar looks nice. The only things that really detract from it in my opinion are the pointy tongue and glowing eyes. But again that's a personal taste thing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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