Best Spirit to specialise in?, For the purpose of Summoning/Binding Options

[Elfenlied]

So, which spirit (among the 10 standard ones) do you consider best to specialise in? Gaining bonus dice for spirits is rather easy, but requires some commitment on the conjurers part (Mentor spirit+Skill specialisation). So, assuming you were to optimize a conjurer, which spirit would you specialise in, and why? Assume, for the moment, that you can freely choose from the traditions in SM or create your own one, and the tradition is materialisation based (otherwise, Guardian spirits would be too obvious).

[Belvidere]

Fire, plain and simple. Just because, everything burns eventually. That and I have a habit for playing Christian Theurges and Black Magicians, both of whom use fire for combat.

[Summerstorm]

I am the GM in a game with a hyper specialized mage which does nearly all actions by proxy of spirits: And i can just say: AIR. Their engulf is very nasty AND nonlethal. Also to ruin the best laid plans of the bad guys: Ancestor spirits. They have access to the metamagic "Divination". A very nice tool to gather information and pretty much predict parts of the future (as long as they can see the aura of a important person in the story - yourself for example).

Back to combat: In all forms, ENGULF is just nearly unavoidable. You HAVE to to be very melee-specialized to not get taken out of the fight. And you have to be imune to poison, crushing air to not be smothered by an air spirit in 1-2 rounds. Fire is a close second (a nice +mod in physical form to agility helps in the attack - just like air), but it kills the victim.

But overall ALL spirits have great uses. Guardian Spirits have a weaponskill of choice as well as GUARD (insanely overpowered), Ancestors have some great utility (and guard too). Beasts and plant can get regeneration, which is nice. Earth is a nice combatant if you have low-skilled but hardy adversaries. But really: All spirits are better than unaugmented people.

[Bull]

Depends on the character and what you want to do.

Guardian have some fun toys. Guidance can be very cool. Earth and Fire can both be powerhouses in combat.

For my money, Air. Movement, Concealment, Engulf, and as an optional power, Fear. Those are the tools you need to dominate, control, and kick 32 flavors of ass.

Bull

[Tomothy]

I like spirits of man, innate spellcasting, fear, confusion and influence. Closely followed by air spirit.

[HappyDaze]

I tend to avoid Fire Spirits in Seattle-based games, as their Allergy can be a real bitch to them in the rain or in a building with a fire suppression system (which is most of them).

[Omenowl]

I am going to exclude invoking in the list

Man because of the ability to have any spell the spellcaster knows. A force 6 spirit of man can get you 2 spells that it can sustain on you for 2 tasks. Unlike other spirits that would lose force over time

I also like beasts for animal control.

[Faraday]

I am the GM in a game with a hyper specialized mage which does nearly all actions by proxy of spirits: And i can just say: AIR. Their engulf is very nasty AND nonlethal. Also to ruin the best laid plans of the bad guys: Ancestor spirits. They have access to the metamagic "Divination". A very nice tool to gather information and pretty much predict parts of the future (as long as they can see the aura of a important person in the story - yourself for example).

One trouble with air spirit engulfing: What if he has an internal air tank/gas mask?

[Whipstitch]

Plant spirits are excellent for Invokers who want cheap but hardy muscle. There's better spirits for raw damage potential, but Plant Spirits have no allergies, they have ready access to many of the bread and butter non-combat utility Powers while Magical Guard, Fear and Regeneration gives them a bit more staying power if you just need someone to cover your exit or to provide the the friends in melee and defended against multiple attack modifiers. I prefer more specialized Spirits for on the fly summoning, but Plant Spirits are excellent generalists and it really makes them great binding candidates.

[Saint Sithney]

Whiskey is my favorite spirit by far.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Nyost Akasuke]

Obviously, a Great Form Nuclear spirit is the best choice. Kidding aside, I'd agree with going for a Spirit of Man, for the reasons already mentioned. Guidance makes a close second for me. Fun with divination.

[Elfenlied]

Hmm, seems like Man, Air and Guidance seem to be the runner-ups. Lucky for me, my current character's tradition has access to all three of them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[TommyTwoToes]

I favor Guardian. If you carry around a backpack with a few heavy weapons, the Guardians can turn into "WTF, where did those spirits get Assault cannons from" goodness. If you are being non-stealthy, gernades aren't really going to bother F6 spirits, so they can run around dropping gernades at their feet.

[Tyro]

The Guidance Spirit's version of Engulf is just nasty.

Overall, Plant. Noxious Breath is a nice mook clearing ability, Fear rules, Regeneration if you can Invoke, etc.

I thought they were allergic to fire?

[Whipstitch]

Nope. And honestly, it makes sense that they aren't since healthy plants are roughly as vulnerable to fire as they are to everything else: not very. Grasses reclaim territory quickly and trees survive forest fires all the time by just standing there. Eucalyptus trees actually have oils that are highly flammable and if anything encourage fires, yet everything else about them is quite resistant to fires. They are actually able to support short growth periods even in the absence of photosynthesis, allowing them to regrow their leaves. The theory is that for eucalyptus trees the trait of actually encouraging fires turned into an evolutionary advantage, since they can survive fires a lot of competitor species and plants cannot. You can seriously find a plant out there that's adapted to just about anything.

[Tyro]

Nope. And honestly, it makes sense that they aren't since healthy plants are roughly as vulnerable to fire as they are to everything else: not very. Grasses reclaim territory quickly and trees survive forest fires all the time by just standing there. Eucalyptus trees actually have oils that are highly flammable and if anything encourage fires, yet everything else about them is quite resistant to fires. They are actually able to support short growth periods even in the absence of photosynthesis, allowing them to regrow their leaves. The theory is that for eucalyptus trees the trait of actually encouraging fires turned into an evolutionary advantage, since they can survive fires a lot of competitor species and plants cannot. You can seriously find a plant out there that's adapted to just about anything.

Very nice.

[Whipstitch]

I'm admittedly kind of a gigantic nature nerd despite being deathly allergic to hippies and new agey types.

[Tyro]

I'm admittedly kind of a gigantic nature nerd despite being deathly allergic to hippies and new agey types.

What is it about hippies that bothers you?

[Whipstitch]

Patchouli.

[Caadium]

Patchouli.

Seconded!

[Apathy]

What about task spirits? Doesn't being able to summon a high-force task spirit make you an uber-generalist with access to almost any skill?

[Tyro]

What about task spirits? Doesn't being able to summon a high-force task spirit make you an uber-generalist with access to almost any skill?

You have a point there.

[Udoshi]

Task spirits are pretty excellent, becaues they give mages access to something almost all Technomancers(through machine sprites) get - access to nearly any technical with a snap of their fingers.

Plus, you know, task spirits with Artisan(i think its a technical skill), movement, concealment and spray paint make for hilarious spray-tagging pranks.

[Elfenlied]

Guardian spirits for non-possession based traditions are kinda lackluster at our table, since we tend to rule that any gun counts as a "technological device", and hence cannot be used by spirits.

Agree with the others, is Task really worth speccing into though? Their interactions with computers etc are limited due to their vision, after all.

[HappyDaze]

Guardian spirits for non-possession based traditions are kinda lackluster at our table, since we tend to rule that any gun counts as a "technological device", and hence cannot be used by spirits.

Agree with the others, is Task really worth speccing into though? Their interactions with computers etc are limited due to their vision, after all.

Why can't spirits use technological devices? The only rule I'm aware of is against spirits using simsense tech.

And spirit hackers can still do fine with standard displays (like contacts and earbuds) - just not with simsense input.