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> Sixth World Almanac preview pic up, Just how pretty is that map?
JM Hardy
post Jun 17 2010, 11:57 PM
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I just received a preview pic of the Sixth World Almanac--it's up on the website, so take a look. Just a note--that's not a final print on the right, it's the cover stuck on some dummy pages. Hope you like the looks of it!

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post Jun 18 2010, 12:02 AM
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It's a pretty map.
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post Jun 18 2010, 12:15 AM
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Looks nummy.

I want one.
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post Jun 18 2010, 12:18 AM
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Is the map included in the .pdf? Any chance we can purchase copies of the map separately?
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post Jun 18 2010, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE (Method @ Jun 17 2010, 07:18 PM) *
Is the map included in the .pdf? Any chance we can purchase copies of the map separately?


Both good questions. I think the map will be with the PDF, but I don't believe we are planning to sell the map separately. But plans can change--I'll run it up the flagpole.

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post Jun 18 2010, 12:49 AM
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Ooo - the map is cool. Didn't know it would be fold out. Nice.
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post Jun 18 2010, 12:57 AM
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Yeah, we've been needing a good map update for a LOOOOONG time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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post Jun 18 2010, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Jun 17 2010, 06:24 PM) *
But plans can change--I'll run it up the flagpole.
Awesome! And thanks in advance. As a collector I just don't see paying 50$ for this book and then tacking that map up my wall or even taking to the table to be molested. But if I could shelf one with the book and buy one for use that would be sweet. Printing one from the PDF is a viable alternative but it wouldn't be nearly as purdy.
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post Jun 18 2010, 03:48 AM
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What is the size of the map? By the looks, it seems it is A2 paper, right? I don't know, you can go to a professional ploter and get a map on good quality paper for less than U$15 (comparing to current brazilian currency). If you consider that 30% of the book's cost is the map, it doesn't look so expensive to me.
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post Jun 18 2010, 03:55 AM
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QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Jun 17 2010, 10:48 PM) *
What is the size of the map? By the looks, it seems it is A2 paper, right? I don't know, you can go to a professional ploter and get a map on good quality paper for less than U$15 (comparing to current brazilian currency). If you consider that 30% of the book's cost is the map, it doesn't look so expensive to me.


Yeah, I was talking to my wife about it--she recently had some posters made of her art at a price that seemed sensible. I'll definitely keep poking around on this.

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post Jun 18 2010, 04:27 AM
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That map is not the territory.

But it is f!cking awesome!
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post Jun 18 2010, 02:37 PM
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A couple critiques of a map that does look nice overall.
  1. The Gulf of Aztlan is labeled the Gulf of Mexico – This does not bother me since I always found Gulf of Aztlan odd sounding, but it is canon as far as I know.
  2. Uruguay is shown on the map – is this correct? or should it be part of Amazonia?
  3. Why was a Mercator Projection used? It wastes a lot of paper space on the far north, and as a result compresses the most interesting portions of the map.
    • A classic Equirectangular Projection would have been much better, for the area covered.
    • By contrast, Rand McNally and the National Geographic Society use/used a Robinson Projection to overcome the problems with the Mercator Projection.
  4. The border line between Quebec and UCAS stops too soon, it should go far enough to indicate that Labrador is part of Quebec, while Newfoundland is part of UCAS.
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post Jun 18 2010, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Jun 18 2010, 05:48 AM) *
What is the size of the map? By the looks, it seems it is A2 paper, right? I don't know, you can go to a professional ploter and get a map on good quality paper for less than U$15 (comparing to current brazilian currency). If you consider that 30% of the book's cost is the map, it doesn't look so expensive to me.

A1, and filled with colour. Yet 50$ for the map alone is too much.
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post Jun 18 2010, 04:27 PM
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I wonder if that map correctly reflects the new shape of the North Sea coastline after the massive changes caused by the Black Tide in 2011 (half of the Netherlands and parts of northern Germany submerged).
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post Jun 18 2010, 04:33 PM
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That map looks pretty sweet, but I'm more interested in the book itself. Do we have an estimated Street Date? This is certainly one thing I'm looking forward to purchasing right away!
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post Jun 18 2010, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (Mr. Mage @ Jun 18 2010, 11:33 AM) *
That map looks pretty sweet, but I'm more interested in the book itself. Do we have an estimated Street Date? This is certainly one thing I'm looking forward to purchasing right away!


I'm not allowed to estimate street dates. Sorry!

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post Jun 18 2010, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Jun 18 2010, 04:10 PM) *
I'm not allowed to estimate street dates. Sorry!

Jason H.

Oh poo! Not even a street year? Guess I'll have to keep a lookout on the website then...
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post Jun 18 2010, 10:16 PM
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Somebody didn't put away their legos.

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post Jun 18 2010, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (MJBurrage @ Jun 18 2010, 07:37 AM) *
Why was a Mercator Projection used? It wastes a lot of paper space on the far north, and as a result compresses the most interesting portions of the map.



Yeah...
seems like the Greenlanders are getting a bit too much play.
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post Jun 18 2010, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (MJBurrage @ Jun 18 2010, 10:37 AM) *
[*]Why was a Mercator Projection used? It wastes a lot of paper space on the far north, and as a result compresses the most interesting portions of the map.[list]


That's the first thought I had when I saw it, but the target audience is American. We like the simple pleasures in life... like squares and rectangles. It's natural that way... like the Earth itself. So save your "mercators" and your "prime meridians" and your fancy oval Earths for the European version, ok? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Jun 18 2010, 11:51 PM
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Is this going to be a hardback? The cover art looks great btw, who did it?
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post Jun 18 2010, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (Congzilla @ Jun 18 2010, 06:51 PM) *
Is this going to be a hardback? The cover art looks great btw, who did it?


Yes, this will be hardback. The art is by the fabulous Echo Chernik, who also did the much-discussed Attitude cover.

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post Jun 19 2010, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Jun 18 2010, 06:59 PM) *
Yes, this will be hardback. The art is by the fabulous Echo Chernik, who also did the much-discussed Attitude cover.

Jason H.


I like that cover a lot as well. The pose looks accurate to me. looking at the close ups on her web page I think really shows off how good it actually is. Close ups.
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post Jun 19 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (Mesh @ Jun 18 2010, 11:27 PM) *
That's the first thought I had when I saw it, but the target audience is American. We like the simple pleasures in life... like squares and rectangles.

Mercator maps certainly have their advantages, extrapolating coordinates from a rectangular grid is...oh wait, the "map" doesn't have a bloody grid, probably that clutter on the eastern seaboard (if a world map shows more detail than the regional map in the BBB, you're doing something wrong) was deemed more important.
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post Jun 19 2010, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (Congzilla @ Jun 19 2010, 03:41 AM) *
I like that cover a lot as well.

IMHO, It's too cluttered and too dependent on details that won't show up on the actual book due to resolution restrictions.

And the loss of details will make it look strange – which is a bit strange, too, since the rest of his work is much more stylized.
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