Grim Theory, Ideas on off-limit or much-needed spells Options

[Crimson Jack]

What spells would you like to see in the next Grimoire that are sorely missing and would enhance the game without breaking it (as in Teleportation)?

[Nikoli]

Brown Note for disabling guards en masse (and in mess)
See southpark for details.

[Kagetenshi]

Extremely high-frequency sound generation for handily reducing guards to vegetables.

~J

[Nikoli]

While not exactly a spell, how about an adept power that mimicks the aiming function of a smartgun link.

[Siege]

Exploring alternative physical adepts -- either new powers or broadening possible horizons like social skills, enhanced pheremones and so on.

-Siege

[Nikoli]

Or, opening new uses of powers based on other powers obtained, such as having the hearing amp ability and the emotion sensing ability allows the phys ad to act as a human lie detector

[Siege]

Enhanced amp?

-Siege

[Nikoli]

I fixed, sorry. Hearing amplitude

[Siege]

Ahhh, got it.

That would be an interesting set of house rules -- not only for adepts, but creative uses of cyber to boot.

-Siege

[Nikoli]

true, but cyber won't clue you in on emotional state.

[Req]

Why not? We can do voice-stress analysis right now. It's not perfect, but I can't imagine an equation to deduce emotional state is impossible.

[Nikoli]

Because machines are far more easily fooled than magic. Yes you could attempt it, but it would require some special cyberware connections, encephalon, memory, possibly an inducer to mentalize the inputs, either a special voice-stress skill or a program to simulate it, some serious micro-vision cyber, etc.

[Siege]

At the risk of derailing this thread -- while empathic sense would give you an edge on someone, voice stress analysis, enhanced olfactory and arguably thermo would still provide a pretty cutting edge evaluation technique.

-Siege

[Nikoli]

Of course, I'd also like to see some Way of Magic phys ad only spells in the next version. Or empathic sense opened up as an edge.

[Req]

[Nikoli]

Fair enough. Magic can be fooled by intent, but this isn't a spell, per se.

[Siege]

Right, but the person "reading" the magic could also be fooled.

Trying to read the emotional content of a sociopath or a psychopath would provide potentially different readings than, say, a normal person.

The responses to stimuli are different and have to be interpreted.

I would imagine a professional Johnson undergoes biofeedback training to develop the ultimate pokerface. (yes, please no Johnson jokes)

-Siege

[Nikoli]

That could be a good idea for an active skill, similair to the skill sim-sense stars pick up to emote the proper track for the recording.

[Siege]

You mean like "Acting"? :grinbig:

With the advent of simsense tech, simsense starlets just have to learn acting on a whole new level.

Or they slot the mood-chips to generate the proper emotion at the proper time.

Which, I have to imagine would be pretty damned draining to have someone punching buttons and running your body through a gauntlet of physical/emotional responses.

-Siege

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[Large Mike]

You know what's needed? Turn to Goo.

[Siege]

[Crimson Jack]

[Taran]

I want more specific rules for noticing the effects of Mind Probe, Control Thoughts, and the like. I have a shaman with some lovely mind magic; as long as he's just pushing gangers around it's no problem, but once he starts messing with the corps he's going to have to be more careful. How much more careful? By the book, there's no way to be sure. Kagetenshi is my GM, so the answer is "really really fraggin' careful", but an actual game mechanic would still be nice.

[Fortune]