Allergic to Wi-fi? Most Perturbatory..., A real person is allergic to it? |
Allergic to Wi-fi? Most Perturbatory..., A real person is allergic to it? |
Jun 22 2010, 08:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 2,072 |
From OMG-Facts.
There's a man who is 'allergic' to Wi-Fi. When he's around a wi-fi signal, it makes him feel "dizzy, sick and confused." It's a condition called "Electromagnetic Sensitivity". With the increase in the availability of public wi-fi, this guy has had to drastically go out of his way to avoid the signals. "I feel like an exile on my own planet. It's almost impossible to find somewhere without wi-fi nowadays.". ---- Now I couldnt find any links on the site to verify but I will look for it. Someone could be aware of wi-fi.... my sci-fi story might not be so far fetched then.... Found it I think: Link |
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Jun 22 2010, 08:03 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Nope. It's an increasingly common delusion/hoax that hasn't (yet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) ) held up to testing.
Given the prevalence of EM radiation of all kinds everywhere, it's very suspicious that these people just claim 'wi-fi' (and occasionally cell towers instead). |
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Jun 22 2010, 08:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 6-November 09 From: MTL Member No.: 17,849 |
From OMG-Facts. There's a man who is 'allergic' to Wi-Fi. When he's around a wi-fi signal, it makes him feel "dizzy, sick and confused." It's a condition called "Electromagnetic Sensitivity". With the increase in the availability of public wi-fi, this guy has had to drastically go out of his way to avoid the signals. "I feel like an exile on my own planet. It's almost impossible to find somewhere without wi-fi nowadays.". ---- Now I couldnt find any links on the site to verify but I will look for it. Someone could be aware of wi-fi.... my sci-fi story might not be so far fetched then.... Sounds like he would benefit from a tinfoil hat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) |
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Jun 22 2010, 08:04 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Either way, it's covered in Shadowrun. Unwired has a negative quality that deals with the same basic concept, though I don't recall the name off the top of my head. Runner's Companion has a positive metagenic trait that works on the concept, too, but to the character's benefit. Then you have Technomancers who feel exactly the opposite; a lack of a signal makes them all weird feeling.
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Jun 22 2010, 08:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 27-May 10 From: Helios Space Station, L3 solar LaGrange Point Member No.: 18,624 |
Either way, it's covered in Shadowrun. Unwired has a negative quality that deals with the same basic concept, though I don't recall the name off the top of my head. Runner's Companion has a positive metagenic trait that works on the concept, too, but to the character's benefit. Then you have Technomancers who feel exactly the opposite; a lack of a signal makes them all weird feeling. The quality is AIPS. QUOTE The character has Artificially Induced Psychotropic Schizophrenia
Syndrome, a psychological disorder most common to survivors of the Matrix Crash of 2064. For each level of this quality taken (max. 3), the character suffers a –1 dice pool penalty to Perception Tests while within Signal range of a Matrix device (including her own). Additionally, the gamemaster may require a successful Willpower Success Test with a threshold equal to the level of this quality when the character must focus her attention in a non-stressful situation. |
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Jun 22 2010, 10:11 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 12-November 09 From: Brno Member No.: 17,868 |
My mother claims she is allergic to mobile radiation. As a technophobe, she is not even aware about wifi signals everywhere. Also she seem to be upset when she actually SEES the cellphone, and displays no symptoms when cellphone is present without her awareness. Maybe my mom has AIPS, but I think she is just nuts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .
Okay i know how does psychosomatics work.I am a psycholopgy student anyway |
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Jun 22 2010, 10:12 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,082 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
If The Sun wrote that the sun will rise tomorrow morning, I wouldn't believe them until seeing it myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) The whole scare about radiation for cellphones, power lines and whatnot has been around for decades, but never once has one of the alleged sufferers been able to reliably tell the presence of EM radiation in a double-blind study. |
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Jun 22 2010, 10:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
My mother in law appears to be sensitive to EM radiation. It can be anything from her hand feeling warm if she holds her cellphone for too long to have difficulty sleeping with power meters on the other side of her bedroom wall.
It could be psychosomatic but I am going to side on "real impact of EM fields". |
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Jun 22 2010, 10:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 19-May 10 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 18,592 |
There's only 912 days left until the dawn of the sixth age. The transition is starting! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jun 22 2010, 10:31 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
It can be anything from her hand feeling warm if she holds her cellphone for too long Or you know. A buildup of actual heat. My phone sometimes feels warm in my pocket (and then I pull it out to find the camera's on and its draining the battery, causing an excessive buildup of waste heat). |
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Jun 22 2010, 10:32 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE When he's around a wi-fi signal, it makes him feel "dizzy, sick and confused." It's a condition called "Electromagnetic Sensitivity". With the increase in the availability of public wi-fi, this guy has had to drastically go out of his way to avoid the signals. "I feel like an exile on my own planet. It's almost impossible to find somewhere without wi-fi nowadays.". Oh look, he's allergic to light. |
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Jun 22 2010, 10:40 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
QUOTE Ars Technica responds in advance (same guy, a year ago) This post has been edited by suoq: Jun 22 2010, 10:41 PM |
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Jun 22 2010, 11:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 19-May 10 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 18,592 |
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Jun 23 2010, 01:17 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 11-April 10 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 18,443 |
LoL, so if this guy...
"If I go somewhere, I can instantly sense the wi-fi and have to leg it." ...can instantly sense it, what the frag is he doing with a wi-fi detector? So he can know when he has a headache? Mesh |
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Jun 23 2010, 01:38 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 29-May 10 Member No.: 18,639 |
I can hear electricity. Outlets and stuff that are in rooms give out this super high pitch ring in my ears. Kinda like that sound capacitors in old cameras and stuff make, except constant and never changing in pitch. Its annoying. But someone getting dizzy from wifi, glad I don't have that.
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Jun 23 2010, 03:24 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
I can hear electricity. Outlets and stuff that are in rooms give out this super high pitch ring in my ears. Kinda like that sound capacitors in old cameras and stuff make, except constant and never changing in pitch. Its annoying. My ears aren't (weren't?) that sensative, but I could hear CRT monitors in sleep mode (PC off, monitor on) and could not stand a ticking clock (I went Captain Hook on them--well, ok, I wanted to). |
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Jun 23 2010, 03:28 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
i can hear when a CRT is on, but there is no image or sound, thanks to its slight buzzing noise.
but wifi allergy, bah. |
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Jun 23 2010, 03:33 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Yeah, you lose the higher frequencies as you age. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 23 2010, 03:39 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
Yeah, you lose the higher frequencies as you age. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) funny enough, i think i have managed to retain most of it, tho its still "early" days as i have only just started on the down hill part towards adult diapers. |
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Jun 23 2010, 03:39 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Xeroderma pigmentosum isn't an allergy- its an inability to repair damage to your DNA caused by UV radiation. An actual allergy to light would not be conducive to life. Nor would an allergy to radio waves (wifi), which by the way aren't a new invention- they are a cosmic phenomenon that probably started oh... around the time of the Big Bang! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif) {edit: which is an oxymoron I suppose, since time also started with the Big Bang, but whatever...}
Lucky for us our immune system (the basis for allergies) cannot detect and react specifically to various forms of electromagnetic radiation. In fact, the known effects of radiation on the immune system are *immunosuppressive* and that takes considerably higher energy than radio waves. This whole thing is nonsense. |
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Jun 23 2010, 04:08 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I always assumed that CRT capacitor whine was a common thing. I don't see many CRTs any more, but they always used to make that noise for me.
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Jun 23 2010, 04:26 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
If anyone is interested:
Rubin GJ, Nieto-Hernandez R, Wessely S. Idiopathic environmental intolerance attributed to electromagnetic fields (formerly 'electromagnetic hypersensitivity'): An updated systematic review of provocation studies. Bioelectromagnetics. 2010 Jan;31(1):1-11. Here's the punch line: QUOTE To date, 46 studies involving 1175 volunteers with
IEI-EMF have tested whether exposure to electro- magnetic fields can trigger the symptoms reported by this group. These studies have produced little evidence to suggest that this is the case or that individuals with IEI-EMF are particularly adept at detecting the presence of electromagnetic fields. On the other hand, many of these studies have found evidence that the nocebo effect is a sufficient explanation for the acute symptoms reported in IEI-EMF. Thus while continued experimental research in this area will be required to clarify the role of chronic exposures and to test the effects of new varieties of electromagnetic emissions, the best evidence currently available suggests that IEI- EMF should not be viewed as a bioelectromagnetic phenomenon. |
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Jun 23 2010, 04:33 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Jun 23 2010, 04:37 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,650 Joined: 21-July 07 Member No.: 12,328 |
The guy referenced in the OP is a crank.
QUOTE My parents could never hear it, despite how much I bitched about making sure to turn the monitor off. This is because your parents have natural hearing loss through age. |
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Jun 23 2010, 04:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 359 Joined: 10-June 10 From: Renton--metas keep out Member No.: 18,684 |
Xeroderma pigmentosum isn't an allergy- its an inability to repair damage to your DNA caused by UV radiation. An actual allergy to light would not be conducive to life. Nor would an allergy to radio waves (wifi), which by the way aren't a new invention- they are a cosmic phenomenon that probably started oh... around the time of the Big Bang! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif) {edit: which is an oxymoron I suppose, since time also started with the Big Bang, but whatever...} Lucky for us our immune system (the basis for allergies) cannot detect and react specifically to various forms of electromagnetic radiation. In fact, the known effects of radiation on the immune system are *immunosuppressive* and that takes considerably higher energy than radio waves. Sir, this is the Internet. Your "facts," "logic," and "rational thinking" have no place here. Begone! |
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