Orky life cycle, Not only lifespan, but maturity, adulthood, parenthood ect. Options

[Brazilian_Shinob...]

Orks or homo sapiens robustus metatype are the second most common metatype in the world according to recent statistics, though birthrates have plunged in industrialized countries over the past few years. Several sociologial and medical studies into the matter have proved inconclusive, but it seems safe to suggest that such a drop off is unlikely to be natural.

Here is the quote from the book, it is supposed to be a report for the UN's International Comitee on Human Rights. If it really was just a bunch of corp Orks with acces to birth control programs, I don't think they would say that what has caused the drop would inconclusive.

[Dumori]

Orks or homo sapiens robustus metatype are the second most common metatype in the world according to recent statistics, though birthrates have plunged in industrialized countries over the past few years. Several sociologial and medical studies into the matter have proved inconclusive, but it seems safe to suggest that such a drop off is unlikely to be natural.

Here is the quote from the book, it is supposed to be a report for the UN's International Comitee on Human Rights. If it really was just a bunch of corp Orks with acces to birth control programs, I don't think they would say that what has caused the drop would inconclusive.

However it could be some strange (semi-magical) population density issue to stop the Ork race from starving it's self to death.

One thing that's always bothered me about the fantasy genre is that they assume all races have maturity rates based squarely upon their maximum age. The longer you live, apparently, the longer it takes your balls to drop... and vice-versa.

That said, I'm pretty sure there's something official out there that lists this kind of information for all the base metatypes. I'll be damned if I can remember which book it was (I'd say something in the 2nd edition line of books), but after thumbing through a few that I have close at hand, I couldn't find anything. Try looking in books like Shadowbeat or the Sprawl Survival Guide. Those, as well as the core rulebooks describing each race, are the ones most likely to have the information.

How ever Orks do mature 33% faster. The other races don't have any significant changes in development times. I'm sure there's some but nothing close to sociologically massive. Life spans how ever are an interesting thing to conciser along with maturity. Also who's to say that orks won't live well past 45. I mean the SR average life expectancy for a human is 65 where as in some areas of the SR world where 90+ could well be the average now with medical advances and let alone age counting gene-treatments is that going to lead to screwy data come a few decades.

[Drace]

Here is the quote from the book, it is supposed to be a report for the UN's International Comitee on Human Rights. If it really was just a bunch of corp Orks with acces to birth control programs, I don't think they would say that what has caused the drop would inconclusive.

However it could be some strange (semi-magical) population density issue to stop the Ork race from starving it's self to death.

Or an elven plot to remove the race from the face of the earth.....

Also, I remember either a novel or sourcebook mentioning that they mature mentally at the same rate, saying that they have a full grown mature, muscled body while still going through teen angst and all the social problems teens go through (I think it also mentions thats why gangs try to recruit them so heavily)

[Martin_DeVries_I...]

The elves, immortal or not, highborn or not, would never enact a plot to erase orks from the earth. It's ridiculous and don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise.

The elves will need servitors once they ascend to rule the Earth, after all.

[Dumori]

Or an elven plot to remove the race from the face of the earth.....

Also, I remember either a novel or sourcebook mentioning that they mature mentally at the same rate, saying that they have a full grown mature, muscled body while still going through teen angst and all the social problems teens go through (I think it also mentions thats why gangs try to recruit them so heavily)

Novels are horrifically off cannon at time. One has a human goblinise in to a dwarf... So forgive me for not trusting the novels on this topic.

[Martin_DeVries_I...]

Novels are horrifically off cannon at time. One has a human goblinise in to a dwarf... So forgive me for not trusting the novels on this topic.

.....Ugh. What?

[Critias]

.....Ugh. What?

Shadowboxer, yeah. Not the worst novel out there, but certainly not the best.

[Martin_DeVries_I...]

Mmm. I had heard, somewhere, that that one was considered non-canon by folks. That must be (one reason) why.

[Critias]

Mmm. I had heard, somewhere, that that one was considered non-canon by folks. That must be (one reason) why.

Definitely "one" reason, yes. There was also the magic smart-holster/belt-buckle that quick drew for you, right off the top of my head. Other sins against nature, too, I'm sure...but those always struck me as the top two.

[Ol' Scratch]

I've never considered any of the fiction to be canonical. Including the stuff in the actual sourcebooks. At best, they're treated as simflicks and pulp action novels in my take on the game world... and that's about it.

[Saint Sithney]

The assumption in this thread seems to be that because Orks mature faster physically, they mature faster mentally as well.

Instead, imagine a 12-year-old tween with the body of a professional athlete, the hormones of a horny teen, and the education of a slum kid.

[Ol' Scratch]

That's how I prefer it for the most part. Same goes for elves and other long-lived races. In D&D, they don't hit adulthood until they're like 100 years old. It's goofy.

[nemafow]

The assumption in this thread seems to be that because Orks mature faster physically, they mature faster mentally as well.

Instead, imagine a 12-year-old tween with the body of a professional athlete, the hormones of a horny teen, and the education of a slum kid.

Good point, I'm more likely to lean towards that representation.

[Sengir]

The assumption in this thread seems to be that because Orks mature faster physically, they mature faster mentally as well.

...because descriptions like "Orks have a very hard time fitting into a society that wasn’t designed to accommodate them. They mature faster, live shorter, and have families that are dramatically larger than
human families. For them, the government system is broken. They can’t take a job, drive a car, buy a drink, or even get married for years after they mature." (RC, the entry for the ork activist contact) don't sound like orks just matured faster psysically (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Jay Mitsuru]

I would assume that the natural stuff (acknowledging you need to poop, putting together the fact that you can hurt someone else and beginning to communicate coherently) might come faster for an Ork, while more complex things (spelling? math?) wouldn't necessarily be any faster. If subjected to schooling at the same rate as humans, I imagine the result would be worse (assuming accelerated physical maturity) because the hormonal distractions of a High School Freshman might manifest in like 5th grade or something. While all the kids are great at kickball, little Johnny two-tusks sure can kick the hell out of a ball, but he always trips on his own feet halfway to first base, and his spelling is atrocious, probably because he never quite got a grip on phonics.

And he'd sit in class drawing dirty doodles of his teacher because he can't stop thinking about her and the way he feels funny when she talks to him.

[TommyTwoToes]

And he'd sit in class drawing dirty doodles of his teacher because he can't stop thinking about her and the way he feels funny when she talks to him.

And the winner is this....

[Dumori]

That's how I prefer it for the most part. Same goes for elves and other long-lived races. In D&D, they don't hit adulthood until they're like 100 years old. It's goofy.

And hit puberty at 25. Have have atrociously low birthrate and seam to like running around on pointless adventures.