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post Sep 5 2010, 03:55 AM
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@ Red-ROM- Heh, sorry, I didn't mean to break your plans.. I try to not meta so I was just acting like a Coyote shaman arguing with the fuzzbutt would. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Here's an assensing roll though.

5d6.hits(5) → [4,6,2,6,2] = (2)
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post Sep 5 2010, 04:01 AM
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Seeing as Professor was just checking the astral area out, it won't have been an Assensing, but rather this (from p. 191 of SR4A):

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While astral perception allows an Awakened character to sense
the astral plane, actually interpreting what is sensed takes practice.
Interpreting auras to gain information about the person or thing to
whom they belong is called Assensing. A magician who wishes to
learn more about an aura must make an Assensing + Intuition test,
with the number of hits determining how much the magician learns,
as outlined on the Assensing Table (at right). Without attempting
to read an aura, a magician can still get an impression of what type
of aura it is (spell, spirit, living creature, etc.).


Now, professor has never met a vampire of any kind, so the first impression should be confusing, and if there is Concealment going on....
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post Sep 5 2010, 04:13 AM
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@ seph: I think your spirit left at sunrise dude.
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post Sep 5 2010, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (Acme @ Sep 4 2010, 10:55 PM) *
@ Red-ROM- Heh, sorry, I didn't mean to break your plans.. I try to not meta so I was just acting like a Coyote shaman arguing with the fuzzbutt would. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Here's an assensing roll though.

5d6.hits(5) → [4,6,2,6,2] = (2)


Hey no worries, you're doing what your character would do. I can adjust.
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post Sep 5 2010, 04:26 PM
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Sorry, I was referring to the air elemental that I had actually forgotten to summon. =/

Summoning said elemental: 2 Conjuring + 4 Magic + 4 Power Focus = 10d6 = 5 hits

Spirit's Force roll against my roll: 3d6 = 1 hit

4 services owed.

Drain roll resisting 2S - Willpower 3 + Logic 6 = 9d6 = 2 hits

No damage taken. Optional power: I can haz Elemental Aura plz?

Second initiative pass, he commands the spirit and observes in detail, I suppose? He's also delaying further action until he sees a look of comprehension on Professor's face/aura, if that's ok. I don't know whether that applies with the third initiative pass or whether that's for a future combat turn, though.

assensing (8d6.hits(5)=3)
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post Sep 5 2010, 04:26 PM
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post Sep 5 2010, 04:47 PM
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So, is that a watcher spirit hanging over the truck, or this elemental? If the latter, I will edit my post.
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post Sep 5 2010, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (pbangarth @ Sep 5 2010, 05:47 PM) *
So, is that a watcher spirit hanging over the truck, or this elemental? If the latter, I will edit my post.

Watcher, I think. Jovan's just summoning the elemental on the spot. The watcher's been on one of those gangers for a few hours.
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post Sep 5 2010, 06:54 PM
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Professor Assenses the unknown astral entity, his Heightened Concentration overcoming the negative modifier of whatever power is trying to hide it (up to -6):

INT 4 + Assensing 5 + Actively looking 3 = 12 dice ==> 3 HITS
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post Sep 5 2010, 07:19 PM
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@pbangarth: does three hits let Professor recognize Jovan as a nos without having seen a vampire before, then? The Assensing table in SR4A isn't exactly clear on how many hits lets you see HMHVV and how many hits lets you identify the type of Infected.
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post Sep 5 2010, 07:30 PM
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@sephiroth: If he had gotten 5 hits, then I think a clear picture would have come to him. With 3 hits, this point:

"A general diagnosis for any maladies (diseases or toxins) the subject suffers."

I figure puts him into the following loop;

1. It's dead.
2. But it's not dead.
3. Go to #1 till you figure it out, moron.

That's where he is now till Red-ROM steps in to give his interpretation of 3 hits. Professor has every magical and Quality memory enhancement available, and problem solving enhancements too, so if he has read about it even once anywhere, he should be able to figure it out. He may very well not be able to tell Nosferatu versus another type of vampire, though. And Red-ROM might choose to keep him further in the dark. Even at his most ignorant, Professor is going to have to be nonplussed by Jovan's aura.

EDIT: Please don't kill him yet.
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post Sep 5 2010, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (pbangarth @ Sep 5 2010, 07:30 PM) *
EDIT: Please don't kill him yet.

I don't plan to, as Jovan is not quite THAT murderous, but i think this may require some serious speed chess on Jovan's part to keep the situation contained.

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QUOTE (Sephiroth @ Sep 2 2010, 05:45 AM) *
[Professor- not enough information available. Abilities likely revolve around observation, analysis, comprehension. Residence unknown. May be difficult to surprise. May be most likely to notice HMHVV-positivity. Avoid if possible. First target if betrayal occurs. Reduces chances of alerting others to contingency plan if first to die. Moniker meaning unclear - should investigate.


So Jovan's attempt to kill Professor would ultimately depend on Professor, really.
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post Sep 5 2010, 07:50 PM
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Whew! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

I'm happy to play along with your characterization of Jovan, sephiroth. It should be a lot of fun as we dance around trying to recognize, trying to obfuscate. It's just, well, there Jovan is, hanging over the combat zone in astral space. Professor couldn't not look.

EDIT: and it will be hard (but I bet not impossible! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) for Jovan to find Professor a threat somehow.
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post Sep 5 2010, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (pbangarth @ Sep 5 2010, 08:50 PM) *
Whew! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

I'm happy to play along with your characterization of Jovan, sephiroth. It should be a lot of fun as we dance around trying to recognize, trying to obfuscate. It's just, well, there Jovan is, hanging over the combat zone in astral space. Professor couldn't not look.

Aye, it'll be quite an interesting game of metaphorical chess, indeed. A perceiver and a plotter - what a fun dance that will be! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/scatter.gif)
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post Sep 6 2010, 04:22 PM
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It looks like my hard drive crashed last night. Won't be able to fix it for a while, so I will have to go downtown to use public computers till I can. I will try to get to a computer once a day if I can.
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post Sep 6 2010, 06:39 PM
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Here's a roll to convince the gangers that it's better for everyone if they just go back inside. I'm guessing it's Negotiation, but the roll would be identical if it's Con or Etiquette or Intimidation (Physical). Charisma 4 + Negotiation 3 + Kinesics 3 = 2 hits. Bleh. But who knows, maybe they will go for it.
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post Sep 6 2010, 07:21 PM
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Current system status for Ferret's head:

PAN: Hidden
Commlink: Response 4, Signal 3, Firewall 6, System 4
Active programs: Stealth, Analyze, Scan, Spoof. (-1 Response).
Stealth is always on, Analyze is likely still running but EW and Spoof will need to be loaded and I'm only doing it in an AR window so takes 2 full rounds.

1st round: Load EW (complex action), detect active/passive nodes (Free action), focusing primarily on the gangers
2nd round: Load Spoof (complex), detect active/passive nodes (Free action), focusing primarily on team.
3rd round: If any of the gangers or the buggy is not showing a node, EW (4) + Scan (3) to try and find one (gangers first) = 7d6.hits(5)=2, threshold is 4, so no luck.

If anyone starts shooting anywhere in Ferret's direction, he stops snooping and reverses out of the parking lot.
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post Sep 7 2010, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (HugeC @ Sep 6 2010, 10:39 AM) *
Here's a roll to convince the gangers that it's better for everyone if they just go back inside. I'm guessing it's Negotiation, but the roll would be identical if it's Con or Etiquette or Intimidation (Physical). Charisma 4 + Negotiation 3 + Kinesics 3 = 2 hits. Bleh. But who knows, maybe they will go for it.


Looks like you better duck. There's going to be a lot of car parts flying in just a moment... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Also, it might do to keep your timestamps in line with the combat turns. We should still be waiting for the ganger's first IP on CT 1.

Meanwhile, that buggy might not be there anymore by IP 2..
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post Sep 7 2010, 12:42 AM
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hey guys, bit of a holiday weekend, I'll have to get back on this tomorrow, I think we all have some time.
Professor sees that Jovan has a disease, and that its awakened, and that Jovan is undead. I don't think its clear what strain of HMHVV
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:25 AM
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Does Jovan notice that Professor notices? Is that allowed?
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post Sep 7 2010, 06:59 AM
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You could use assensing in to discern his emotional state with a single hit, and then use the power of Natural Paranoia to assume any fear or fright is a result of him recognizing your nature.
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post Sep 7 2010, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Sep 7 2010, 06:59 AM) *
You could use assensing in to discern his emotional state with a single hit, and then use the power of Natural Paranoia to assume any fear or fright is a result of him recognizing your nature.

Natual Paranoia power FTW. I did the assensing roll in my post with the summoning roll, but I can't tell from pbangarth's post whether Professor is fearful or just shocked.
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:09 PM
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Professor's philosophy is 'live and let ... unlive'. I'm not sure how communication is carried on in astral space. There is a suggestion that one can 'see' and 'hear' but more on an emotional level. So that's what I will try to convey in the IC thread.
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:39 PM
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My understanding (anyone jump in and correct me if I'm wrong) is that you can hear perfectly well while astrally perceiving/projecting. Thus, Professor could hear the sound of Thirty speaking next to him, and even the sound of the speaker in his earbud. Jovan can speak, and Professor can hear what he says too. I had thought before that you could not hear sounds coming from technological devices while perceiving or projecting, but posters on Dumpshock have disabused me of that notion, and SR4A rules seem to support that you can hear audio devices normally.

I think that Professor would have to talk out loud in the physical, and Jovan could hear him in the astral if within normal hearing distance. Jovan cannot hear or speak on the comms, since he is not "there" at his body to do so.
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post Sep 8 2010, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (HugeC @ Sep 7 2010, 12:39 PM) *
My understanding (anyone jump in and correct me if I'm wrong) is that you can hear perfectly well while astrally perceiving/projecting. Thus, Professor could hear the sound of Thirty speaking next to him, and even the sound of the speaker in his earbud. Jovan can speak, and Professor can hear what he says too. I had thought before that you could not hear sounds coming from technological devices while perceiving or projecting, but posters on Dumpshock have disabused me of that notion, and SR4A rules seem to support that you can hear audio devices normally.

I think that Professor would have to talk out loud in the physical, and Jovan could hear him in the astral if within normal hearing distance. Jovan cannot hear or speak on the comms, since he is not "there" at his body to do so.

I was going to ask this same question. My Understanding is that Astral perception is a psychic or emotional sense, i.e. you can't see the words on paper, but you can get the emotional content(I think this is in the book, but maybe I picked it up on dumpshock). I imagined that "hearing" with Astral perception would be the same way. However, when manifesting, you can communicate verbaly, which leads me to believe that hearing still works pretty much the same. I can't really explain this "fluff wise" but thats what I got. Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

I think Jovan's paranoia would assume Professor knows even more than he does
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