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 Jul 6 2010, 07:38 PM
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Immortal Elf  Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890  |
And you missed the part where the mage would have to stay at the North Pole for the entire duration.
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Jul 6 2010, 07:41 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Jul 6 2010, 12:38 PM)  And you missed the part where the mage would have to stay at the North Pole for the entire duration. Did not miss it... just ignored it as a pain for the Mage... notice I did say that it would suck to be there the entire time... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Just wanted to point it out, since you can have a spirit summoned for 6 months with no binding, it is just not all that useful in my opinion... No Worries though... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Keep the Faith |
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Jul 6 2010, 07:45 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
See, what I'd do is summon/bind a spirit at the north pole, ask it to define "how long a long term service lasts" ("a year and a day") and have it define a year ("365 sunsets") and then task it with a long term service* and leave. "Oh, and I only really need 50 sunsets. You're free after that."
It'd be a really Spirit Abuse thing to do, of course, but HILARIOUS. *Notably one that wouldn't require that I be nearby or have the spirit leave the pole. |
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Jul 6 2010, 07:47 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Have to be a pretty stupid spirit to use sunsets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 6 2010, 08:21 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 6 2010, 03:47 PM) Have to be a pretty stupid spirit to use sunsets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Well yeah. But like I said, it'd be funny. |
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Jul 6 2010, 10:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 21-June 10 Member No.: 18,737 |
Wait guys, on the year and a day thing, only "long term service" (from street magic) where you pay karma and release a spirit from normal binding (and thus your bound spirit limit) lasts a year and a day. Regular binding is forever (or until the Mage dies).
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Jul 6 2010, 10:11 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Jul 6 2010, 06:07 PM) Wait guys, on the year and a day thing, only "long term service" (from street magic) where you pay karma and release a spirit from normal binding (and thus your bound spirit limit) lasts a year and a day. Regular binding is forever (or until the Mage dies). I do believe I am aware of that, thanks. You missed the part about getting a long term service (just one) to last 360 years due to creative interpretation of "day." |
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Jul 7 2010, 01:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 16-March 05 From: 51° 16' North 7° 11' East Member No.: 7,168 |
Btw, which time's relevant? Local time or the place of summoning? What about globe hopping ahead of sunset?
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Jul 7 2010, 01:42 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Jul 6 2010, 09:40 PM) Btw, which time's relevant? Local time or the place of summoning? What about globe hopping ahead of sunset? "Service? Oh yes. I want you to run west as fast as you can and let me know just before sunset (or dawn, if it comes to it) how many times around the world you went." |
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Jul 8 2010, 04:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Pueblo Corporate Council Member No.: 8,332 |
QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jul 6 2010, 10:56 AM) p. 186 SR4A "A spirit will perform the services it owes until the next sunrise or sunset. At that time, regardless of any remaining services or what it was doing, the spirit will depart and return to its home deep in astral space." Thanks, Dire. Man, I looked everywhere for that. *points to sig* As for the new topic, I'm sure I read in canon where it specifically said that spirits last til the natural sunrise north of the arctic circle. Third edition? Just don't ask me for a page ref... |
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Jul 16 2010, 01:19 AM
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Target Group: New Member Probation Posts: 1 Joined: 1-July 10 Member No.: 18,774 |
pg 165 of Arsenal, under Polar Magic. "The lengthened periods of day and ngiht can be a boon for conjurers. Summoned spirits will stay on hand until the next sunrise or sunset, even if that is weeks away."
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Jul 16 2010, 04:38 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (aspect @ Jul 15 2010, 08:19 PM) pg 165 of Arsenal, under Polar Magic. "The lengthened periods of day and ngiht can be a boon for conjurers. Summoned spirits will stay on hand until the next sunrise or sunset, even if that is weeks away." Frakking awesome. |
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Jul 16 2010, 12:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 5 2010, 08:57 PM) Sometimes they can go all night, if the spirit is willing. ... but the fleshform is weak... |
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Jul 16 2010, 07:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 23-June 10 Member No.: 18,749 |
RAW says to keep a spirit beyond sunrise or sunset uses up one owed service. If this causes you to run out of services, the spirit leaves.
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Jul 16 2010, 09:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-July 09 Member No.: 17,440 |
QUOTE (Laodicea @ Jul 16 2010, 08:17 PM) RAW says to keep a spirit beyond sunrise or sunset uses up one owed service. If this causes you to run out of services, the spirit leaves. Could you give a page quote on that one? Cause that directly contradicts the first paragraph of Spirit Services on SR4A p 186. That would be an interesting bit of rule interpretation if they have both statements as RAW. |
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