 Ares Alpha and Gas Vent 3, Allowed or not ? |
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 Jul 6 2010, 02:33 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 303 Joined: 26-May 10 Member No.: 18,622  |
This accessories is supposed to go on the barrel and cannot be cumulated with another vent option.
Did the Ares Alpha Special chamber allow it or not (gut feeling no) ? Can it be mounted even if there is an underbarrel grenade launcher (gut feeling yes) ? |
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Jul 6 2010, 02:42 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,856 Joined: 25-July 07 Member No.: 12,360 |
My group has always interpreted it as the special configuration adding more recoil without taking up a mount, so the gas vent 3 was an option (barrel mount). Of course, if your group feels 5 recoil with a grenade launcher is too beastly, raise the availability (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) IIRC, there was some mention in the previous SR4 book about it's 'bullpup configuration' accounting for the extra recoil compensation.
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Jul 6 2010, 02:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 22-May 10 From: Germany Member No.: 18,604 |
The special chamber design has nothing to do with a gas vent so there's no problem.
In SR3 the 2 inherent recoil came from the bullpup design and the special chamber design (1 each). In SR4a the Alpha apparently no longer has a bullpup design but still gives 2 inherent recoil compensation from the improved chamber design. |
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Jul 6 2010, 03:01 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 31-May 09 From: London, UK Member No.: 17,229 |
QUOTE (Combat Mage @ Jul 6 2010, 04:59 PM)  In SR4a the Alpha apparently no longer has a bullpup design but still gives 2 inherent recoil compensation from the improved chamber design. In SR4 Bullpop does not exist at all anymore, as there is no building guns from scratch and no individual Concealability stat. |
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Jul 6 2010, 03:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 22-May 10 From: Germany Member No.: 18,604 |
It doesn't have any special rules but it does exist, for example the Nitama Optimum II has a bullpup design.
I was refering to the fact that the picture of the Alpha in the anniversary book shows it with a classic design, not bullpup. |
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Jul 6 2010, 04:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 125 Joined: 21-March 10 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 18,325 |
QUOTE (Combat Mage @ Jul 6 2010, 08:05 AM) It doesn't have any special rules but it does exist, for example the Nitama Optimum II has a bullpup design. I was refering to the fact that the picture of the Alpha in the anniversary book shows it with a classic design, not bullpup. Bah. SR4A is good for rules and extra fluff, but the original is better for weapon art. The Alpha is a bullpup (magazine feed behind the trigger group). |
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Jul 6 2010, 05:21 PM
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Dumorimasoddaa Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 |
Bullpup only really means you get the same gun in less length. As for the GL it's mounted under barrel that's a different slot. There's top barrel and bottom/undebarrel.
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Jul 6 2010, 05:43 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,856 Joined: 25-July 07 Member No.: 12,360 |
QUOTE (Dumori @ Jul 6 2010, 01:21 PM) Bullpup only really means you get the same gun in less length. As for the GL it's mounted under barrel that's a different slot. There's top barrel and bottom/undebarrel. And stock, if you're using shock-pads. |
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