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post Jul 7 2010, 06:09 PM
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For those saying that its unrealistic that APDS ammo is availebul for all types of guns, heres 6.5x25mm CBJ

That some nice armor penetration for a 9mm pistol, would be cool to get to shoot a few clip of that at armored targets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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post Jul 7 2010, 06:16 PM
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Might be able to pick some up at a gun show. I was never expecting to be able to snag Hydra-Shok at one.

'Course, I went with the Remington silvertip hollow-point rounds. You never know when a werewolf is going to try to break in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 7 2010, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 7 2010, 11:16 AM) *
Might be able to pick some up at a gun show. I was never expecting to be able to snag Hydra-Shok at one.

Good luck with that....

Title 18, sec 101 chap 44

§ 922 Unlawful acts.
(a) It shall be unlawful—
(8) for any manufacturer or importer to sell or deliver armor piercing ammunition,
unless such sale or delivery--
(A) is for the use of the United States, any department or agency of
the United States, any State, or any department, agency, or political
subdivision of a State;
(B) is for the purpose of exportation;
or
(C ) is for the purpose of testing or experimentation and has been authorized
by the Attorney General;



§921
(B) The term "armor piercing ammunition" means—
(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun
and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces
of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys,
steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium;...
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post Jul 7 2010, 07:07 PM
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Yeah, Well... That is just a suggestion though... Minor details at most... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

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post Jul 7 2010, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 7 2010, 08:03 PM) *
Good luck with that....

Title 18, sec 101 chap 44 legal mumbo jumbo


Yes, because people at gun shows always follow the law. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
I realize it's a military round (and you'd have to swap out the barrel on the nine in order to let it fire this stuff), but there are always ways to get a hold of it. It's a sweet round/PDW combo. A micro-UZI that can defeat body armor, low wear ammo with an aluminum jacket?

Any way you knock it, that's pretty damn cool.
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post Jul 7 2010, 07:34 PM
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Unless you're the one wearing the body armor.
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post Jul 7 2010, 07:41 PM
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In which case, I would develop a lasting (not long, but lasting) hatred of the Swedish.

Maybe my tortured soul would haunt their manufacturing facility.
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post Jul 7 2010, 07:47 PM
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Hey, APDS used to always be described as being hard to get (what was the original shadowtalk about it? something about "found a couple of mags at Ft. Lewis once, but I had to use them up just to get out")... no reason to change that now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 7 2010, 08:21 PM
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when I bought my pistol the only rounds I could find for it were these weird copper shots. they didnt say they were armor peircing but they dont fragment when they hit so that all the force hits a small spot and wont break. they were really creepy kinda. also really kinda expensive at like a dollar and a half per shot. also I bought them at sheels so they are legal.
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post Jul 7 2010, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (JohnNoSIN @ Jul 7 2010, 09:21 PM) *
when I bought my pistol the only rounds I could find for it were these weird copper shots. they didnt say they were armor peircing but they dont fragment when they hit so that all the force hits a small spot and wont break. they were really creepy kinda. also really kinda expensive at like a dollar and a half per shot. also I bought them at sheels so they are legal.


What kinda pistol did you buy?
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post Jul 7 2010, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 7 2010, 08:24 PM) *
What kinda pistol did you buy?


H&K USP 9mm

copper rounds are bad for the barrel though so I was sort of annyoed I had to use them. also they were expensive like I said.
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post Jul 7 2010, 08:45 PM
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Reh? You can't find jacketed ammo where you are?

Cripes, order it off the internets. =P
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post Jul 7 2010, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 7 2010, 08:45 PM) *
Reh? You can't find jacketed ammo where you are?

Cripes, order it off the internets. =P


I can now. when I bought the gun there was a stupid shortage because people were freaking that obama was gonna come take their guns. so I couldnt find any ammo then but thats over.
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post Jul 7 2010, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (JohnNoSIN @ Jul 7 2010, 09:51 PM) *
I can now. when I bought the gun there was a stupid shortage because people were freaking that obama was gonna come take their guns. so I couldnt find any ammo then but thats over.


Oh! Ha! I remember that now.
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post Jul 9 2010, 03:35 PM
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Well, there's good reason people thought that, although he hasn't made a move for it yet and the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of the 2nd Ammendment.
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post Jul 9 2010, 03:48 PM
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Not really. Obama is the president, not a legislator. Maybe there's some things he wouldn't have vetoed, but it's kinda breathtakingly silly that people genuinely start hoarding guns every time a gun control advocate gets into office.
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post Jul 9 2010, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jul 9 2010, 04:48 PM) *
but it's kinda breathtakingly silly that people genuinely start hoarding guns every time a gun control advocate gets into office.

Not silly, just good PR - create a scare out of thin air to make people buy your stuff, then when the imaginary threat fails to materialize take the credit for avoiding it with your "public awareness" campaign. And that doesn't just work with guns (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 9 2010, 05:11 PM
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Pff. The time to hoard guns is when there's a pro-gun President in office; it drives the price down.

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post Jul 9 2010, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 9 2010, 11:11 AM) *
Pff. The time to hoard guns is when there's a pro-gun President in office; it drives the price down.


Yes, the smart people stock up when a pro gun Pres is in office, then make a tidy profit when it swings the other way.
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post Jul 9 2010, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (Deadmannumberone @ Jul 9 2010, 05:25 PM) *
Yes, the smart people stock up when a pro gun Pres is in office, then make a tidy profit when it swings the other way.

Most major arms manufacturers are publicly traded, why haul around all that metal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Am I the only one who just got an idea for a plot involving Ares and Horizon?
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post Jul 9 2010, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 9 2010, 06:32 PM) *
Most major arms manufacturers are publicly traded, why haul around all that metal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Because they're fun to shoot. I still need to try out pop's PPK and dual 92F's he picked up recently...
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post Jul 9 2010, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 9 2010, 10:34 AM) *
Because they're fun to shoot.

Oh so true. And guns, in and of themselves, are just cool. Of course you don't have to take my word for it, a major news source agrees. (For a given value of "news.")
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post Jul 9 2010, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (Martin_DeVries_Institute @ Jul 9 2010, 10:35 AM) *
Oh so true. And guns, in and of themselves, are just cool. Of course you don't have to take my word for it, a major news source agrees. (For a given value of "news.")


Not just a major news source, but "America's Finest News Source"
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post Jul 9 2010, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (JohnNoSIN @ Jul 7 2010, 03:51 PM) *
I can now. when I bought the gun there was a stupid shortage because people were freaking that obama was gonna come take their guns. so I couldnt find any ammo then but thats over.



There is never a shortage of stupid.
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post Jul 9 2010, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jul 9 2010, 08:48 AM) *
Not really. Obama is the president, not a legislator. Maybe there's some things he wouldn't have vetoed, but it's kinda breathtakingly silly that people genuinely start hoarding guns every time a gun control advocate gets into office.



Your not supposed to bring reality into the conversation that is just not cool
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