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post Jul 20 2010, 05:15 PM
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Anyone who has been on Dumpshock for any decent amount of time is almost sure to of seen a particular phrase at least a few times; I/My GM doesn't allow <Pet Peeve>, be it Technomancers because they make the Matrix "magical", some bit of kit from Augmentation that you don't agree with or the entirety of Unwired because it makes the Matrix too complicated.

So, what I am wondering is what you, or your GM, specifically do not allow in your games, and if possible, why? Sate my curiosity!
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:16 PM
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Jerks, drama queens, etc..

Oh and..under no circumstances: weak stomachs

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post Jul 20 2010, 05:18 PM
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Penile Implants in unusual places.

Well, he hasn't expressed forbid it. He's just expressed a very strong disapproval of it and the implant in general.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:23 PM
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I don't disallow anything. I have a few things I recommend avoiding but like I said to my players at the beginning of the campaign:

Shadowrun can be broken. It's not even that hard. When you make your characters ask yourself "Is this ridiculous? Will it piss Dave off?" If the answer to either of those questions is yes, then I would recommend against doing it. If the answer is "Maybe" then call and ask. If you forge ahead regardless, that's fine, just remember that I know the rules better than you, and every one trick pony has a counter.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:24 PM
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Goat eyes.

In my games, goats don't have eyes.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:25 PM
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I disallow fun.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 20 2010, 01:24 PM) *
Goat eyes.

In my games, goats don't have eyes.

Spoilsport.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:26 PM
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For the current campaign I'm running I disallowed the races out of RC, largely because the players are relative newbies to shadowrun in general and didn't want to overwhelm them with the variants, infected, and the near infinite options of being a changeling. That, and one of them would have gone so far pink mohawk he would have ruined things for the others if he got what he wanted.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (imperialus @ Jul 20 2010, 09:23 AM) *
I don't disallow anything. I have a few things I recommend avoiding but like I said to my players at the beginning of the campaign:

Shadowrun can be broken. It's not even that hard. When you make your characters ask yourself "Is this ridiculous? Will it piss Dave off?" If the answer to either of those questions is yes, then I would recommend against doing it. If the answer is "Maybe" then call and ask. If you forge ahead regardless, that's fine, just remember that I know the rules better than you, and every one trick pony has a counter.

Wait, your name is "Dave"?
/me starts looking for a follow feature.

We have three Dave's in our group and a two Dave minimum.

My only issue with OTP is those who whine like little children when I OTP them back.
"Well Hello Mana Static!"

BlueMax
/who was being childish too.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:31 PM
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the only real thing I disallow/ignore is the rule where TM's have to learn cracking/electronics twice..

I also tend to play loose with char creation rules, if they can come up with a good reasoning for the character having something
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:33 PM
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I tend to do the same. I'm also a lot easier on folks who are still learning the system.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:52 PM
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I banned (or rather, significantly nerfed) the Emotitoy my Hacker player wanted.
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (Witch @ Jul 20 2010, 06:52 PM) *
I banned (or rather, significantly nerfed) the Emotitoy my Hacker player wanted.


I still don't get those.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 20 2010, 12:55 PM) *
I still don't get those.


check out the android receptionist in japan iirc, it can recognize a bit of emotions based on facial recognition software and respond appropriately.

Emotitoys strike me as mini drones designed to react to thier owner's emotional state, but eaisly reprogrammed to work on others
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:07 PM
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Chronically overcasting Mystic Adepts.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 20 2010, 06:00 PM) *
check out the android receptionist in japan iirc, it can recognize a bit of emotions based on facial recognition software and respond appropriately.

Emotitoys strike me as mini drones designed to react to thier owner's emotional state, but eaisly reprogrammed to work on others


I've heard of Johnsons putting bullets in those when they see em'.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:17 PM
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Day-job and Sinner flaws. Too many players took them not realizing that either was recipe for disaster and I got tired of having to ignore the flaws lest the party get screwed.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:20 PM
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Currently banned: Pretty much nothing

Things we should ban: Middle Aged Male Players with Angsty Goth Teenage Female Characters. It was funny once, now it's getting disturbing.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:22 PM
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The only thing I have banned is the Technomancer. Initially, it was because I hadn't read up on it enough and didn't want my players running amok with something I hadn't taken the time to understand, mechanically. In my second campaign, I use the Emergence timeline as a backdrop, so I didn't want anyone to play one until that campaign arc was finished.

We never finished that campaign, so I guess Technos are still banned.

There's currently a player ban on any full-time hackers, so by default, Technos aren't like to get any play time at my table.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (Johnny B. Good @ Jul 20 2010, 01:16 PM) *
I've heard of Johnsons putting bullets in those when they see em'.


Which is why your face should put down the nuyen for the full empathy software suite instead of the toy, costs more, but its a lot harder to notice someone running a program on thier headware.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (Johnny B. Good @ Jul 20 2010, 01:16 PM) *
I've heard of Johnsons putting bullets in those when they see em'.


Usually taken as an attack on the runners, and results in return fire.

Mr J if he survives will also have a bad reputation as impulsive.

After all nothing prevents runners from running emotion software using thier gear as input for the same effect, same with lie detection spells/software.

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post Jul 20 2010, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (Fauxknight @ Jul 20 2010, 07:26 PM) *
Which is why your face should put down the nuyen for the full empathy software suite instead of the toy, costs more, but its a lot harder to notice someone running a program on thier headware.


Or why your Technomancer should thread it up and run it through their eyes. Most Technos should have a decent Charisma anyway, they make fairly good back up Faces (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (MortVent @ Jul 20 2010, 06:26 PM) *
Usually taken as an attack on the runners, and results in return fire.

Mr J if he survives will also have a bad reputation as impulsive.

After all nothing prevents runners from running emotion software using thier gear as input for the same effect, same with lie detection spells/software.


Honestly if I was a J and the face put an emotitoy on the table, I would either make him get rid of it or I walk. Or if I was an asshole and I had my corpsec goons with me, I'd shoot it (Or crowbar it).

If you're going to use emotion software at least do it covertly. The difference between walking in a corp facility holding a SMG in plain sight and walking in a corp facility with a ceramic SMG in a smuggling compartment is everything. Clearly trying to take advantage of a social situation is no different.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE (CodeBreaker @ Jul 20 2010, 06:32 PM) *
Or why your Technomancer should thread it up and run it through their eyes. Most Technos should have a decent Charisma anyway, they make fairly good back up Faces (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)


I don't understand being able to thread things outside of specifically matrix actions. Technomancers can thread because they have an intuitive understanding of how computers work, not because they know blue magic. It makes sense that they'd be able to thread an Exploit, as it finds flaws in firewall code. Empathy software, which is an algorithm for reading faces and analyzing pheromones, not so much.
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (Johnny B. Good @ Jul 20 2010, 02:33 PM) *
Honestly if I was a J and the face put an emotitoy on the table, I would either make him get rid of it or I walk. Or if I was an asshole and I had my corpsec goons with me, I'd shoot it (Or crowbar it).

If you're going to use emotion software at least do it covertly. The difference between walking in a corp facility holding a SMG in plain sight and walking in a corp facility with a ceramic SMG in a smuggling compartment is everything. Clearly trying to take advantage of a social situation is no different.


So you would shoot someone's keychain? Read the description the things are necklaces, bracelets, keychains, etc.. especially the non-mobile ones

It's not an smg, it's in effect throwing a fit because someone has a toy that might give them an edge.

I guarantee the Mr J is going to have one or more as well, maybe even a full rtg 6 one on him.

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