Disallowed in Your Game |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 7-June 09 From: Scotland Member No.: 17,249 |
Anyone who has been on Dumpshock for any decent amount of time is almost sure to of seen a particular phrase at least a few times; I/My GM doesn't allow <Pet Peeve>, be it Technomancers because they make the Matrix "magical", some bit of kit from Augmentation that you don't agree with or the entirety of Unwired because it makes the Matrix too complicated.
So, what I am wondering is what you, or your GM, specifically do not allow in your games, and if possible, why? Sate my curiosity! |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 16-May 03 Member No.: 4,598 |
Jerks, drama queens, etc..
Oh and..under no circumstances: weak stomachs |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:18 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
Penile Implants in unusual places.
Well, he hasn't expressed forbid it. He's just expressed a very strong disapproval of it and the implant in general. |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:23 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 |
I don't disallow anything. I have a few things I recommend avoiding but like I said to my players at the beginning of the campaign:
Shadowrun can be broken. It's not even that hard. When you make your characters ask yourself "Is this ridiculous? Will it piss Dave off?" If the answer to either of those questions is yes, then I would recommend against doing it. If the answer is "Maybe" then call and ask. If you forge ahead regardless, that's fine, just remember that I know the rules better than you, and every one trick pony has a counter. |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:24 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
Goat eyes.
In my games, goats don't have eyes. |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:25 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
I disallow fun.
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Jul 20 2010, 05:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 27-May 10 From: Helios Space Station, L3 solar LaGrange Point Member No.: 18,624 |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:26 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
For the current campaign I'm running I disallowed the races out of RC, largely because the players are relative newbies to shadowrun in general and didn't want to overwhelm them with the variants, infected, and the near infinite options of being a changeling. That, and one of them would have gone so far pink mohawk he would have ruined things for the others if he got what he wanted.
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Jul 20 2010, 05:27 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
I don't disallow anything. I have a few things I recommend avoiding but like I said to my players at the beginning of the campaign: Shadowrun can be broken. It's not even that hard. When you make your characters ask yourself "Is this ridiculous? Will it piss Dave off?" If the answer to either of those questions is yes, then I would recommend against doing it. If the answer is "Maybe" then call and ask. If you forge ahead regardless, that's fine, just remember that I know the rules better than you, and every one trick pony has a counter. Wait, your name is "Dave"? /me starts looking for a follow feature. We have three Dave's in our group and a two Dave minimum. My only issue with OTP is those who whine like little children when I OTP them back. "Well Hello Mana Static!" BlueMax /who was being childish too. |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 16-May 03 Member No.: 4,598 |
the only real thing I disallow/ignore is the rule where TM's have to learn cracking/electronics twice..
I also tend to play loose with char creation rules, if they can come up with a good reasoning for the character having something |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:33 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
I tend to do the same. I'm also a lot easier on folks who are still learning the system.
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Jul 20 2010, 05:52 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 19-June 10 Member No.: 18,730 |
I banned (or rather, significantly nerfed) the Emotitoy my Hacker player wanted.
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Jul 20 2010, 05:55 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 16-May 03 Member No.: 4,598 |
I still don't get those. check out the android receptionist in japan iirc, it can recognize a bit of emotions based on facial recognition software and respond appropriately. Emotitoys strike me as mini drones designed to react to thier owner's emotional state, but eaisly reprogrammed to work on others |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 23-June 10 Member No.: 18,749 |
Chronically overcasting Mystic Adepts.
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Jul 20 2010, 06:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 16-November 09 From: United States Member No.: 17,876 |
check out the android receptionist in japan iirc, it can recognize a bit of emotions based on facial recognition software and respond appropriately. Emotitoys strike me as mini drones designed to react to thier owner's emotional state, but eaisly reprogrammed to work on others I've heard of Johnsons putting bullets in those when they see em'. |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:17 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,328 Joined: 2-April 07 From: The Center of the Universe Member No.: 11,360 |
Day-job and Sinner flaws. Too many players took them not realizing that either was recipe for disaster and I got tired of having to ignore the flaws lest the party get screwed.
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Jul 20 2010, 06:20 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
Currently banned: Pretty much nothing
Things we should ban: Middle Aged Male Players with Angsty Goth Teenage Female Characters. It was funny once, now it's getting disturbing. |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:22 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: 30-June 06 From: Fort Wayne, IN Member No.: 8,814 |
The only thing I have banned is the Technomancer. Initially, it was because I hadn't read up on it enough and didn't want my players running amok with something I hadn't taken the time to understand, mechanically. In my second campaign, I use the Emergence timeline as a backdrop, so I didn't want anyone to play one until that campaign arc was finished.
We never finished that campaign, so I guess Technos are still banned. There's currently a player ban on any full-time hackers, so by default, Technos aren't like to get any play time at my table. |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 12-July 10 Member No.: 18,814 |
I've heard of Johnsons putting bullets in those when they see em'. Which is why your face should put down the nuyen for the full empathy software suite instead of the toy, costs more, but its a lot harder to notice someone running a program on thier headware. |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 16-May 03 Member No.: 4,598 |
I've heard of Johnsons putting bullets in those when they see em'. Usually taken as an attack on the runners, and results in return fire. Mr J if he survives will also have a bad reputation as impulsive. After all nothing prevents runners from running emotion software using thier gear as input for the same effect, same with lie detection spells/software. |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 7-June 09 From: Scotland Member No.: 17,249 |
Which is why your face should put down the nuyen for the full empathy software suite instead of the toy, costs more, but its a lot harder to notice someone running a program on thier headware. Or why your Technomancer should thread it up and run it through their eyes. Most Technos should have a decent Charisma anyway, they make fairly good back up Faces (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 16-November 09 From: United States Member No.: 17,876 |
Usually taken as an attack on the runners, and results in return fire. Mr J if he survives will also have a bad reputation as impulsive. After all nothing prevents runners from running emotion software using thier gear as input for the same effect, same with lie detection spells/software. Honestly if I was a J and the face put an emotitoy on the table, I would either make him get rid of it or I walk. Or if I was an asshole and I had my corpsec goons with me, I'd shoot it (Or crowbar it). If you're going to use emotion software at least do it covertly. The difference between walking in a corp facility holding a SMG in plain sight and walking in a corp facility with a ceramic SMG in a smuggling compartment is everything. Clearly trying to take advantage of a social situation is no different. |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 16-November 09 From: United States Member No.: 17,876 |
Or why your Technomancer should thread it up and run it through their eyes. Most Technos should have a decent Charisma anyway, they make fairly good back up Faces (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) I don't understand being able to thread things outside of specifically matrix actions. Technomancers can thread because they have an intuitive understanding of how computers work, not because they know blue magic. It makes sense that they'd be able to thread an Exploit, as it finds flaws in firewall code. Empathy software, which is an algorithm for reading faces and analyzing pheromones, not so much. |
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Jul 20 2010, 06:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 16-May 03 Member No.: 4,598 |
Honestly if I was a J and the face put an emotitoy on the table, I would either make him get rid of it or I walk. Or if I was an asshole and I had my corpsec goons with me, I'd shoot it (Or crowbar it). If you're going to use emotion software at least do it covertly. The difference between walking in a corp facility holding a SMG in plain sight and walking in a corp facility with a ceramic SMG in a smuggling compartment is everything. Clearly trying to take advantage of a social situation is no different. So you would shoot someone's keychain? Read the description the things are necklaces, bracelets, keychains, etc.. especially the non-mobile ones It's not an smg, it's in effect throwing a fit because someone has a toy that might give them an edge. I guarantee the Mr J is going to have one or more as well, maybe even a full rtg 6 one on him. |
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