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> The rich eat differnetly from you and me, Y12 for a soy caf? sure
Yerameyahu
post Jul 31 2010, 06:01 PM
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Agreed.
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post Jul 31 2010, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (Wordman @ Jul 28 2010, 11:17 AM) *
So, there is this restaurant outside of Denver called the Fort. It's known for being a place that serves a wider variety of meat than most places. If you want elk, rattlesnake, Rocky Mountain oysters... this is the place to go. My family was there a number of years ago and the owner came out to talk to us. He asked us how we liked the bison tongue (yes, the tongue of a buffalo). To this day, it was the best tasting meat I've ever had, and we said as much.

He told us a story: back in the 19th century, when America was destroying the food supply of the Native Americans, much of the destruction was done by trainloads of East Coast tourist "hunters", who would shoot buffalo by the thousands from platforms on the train. The meat was mostly left to rot, but they made a point of taking the tongues back to the East Coast, where they were considered a great delicacy by the idle rich. Knowing this, the restaurant owner checked with his bison suppliers about bison tongues. To his surprise, they were dirt cheap, apparently because there was no real market for them. He thought "cool! I can give my customers this great thing for a low price! That will rule!". So, he started serving it and... it didn't sell. He thought about this. "So," he told us, "I cut the portion in half and tripled the price. They started selling like wildfire."

Not sure if that guy still owns the place, but the "Braised Bison Tongue - A Historian's Treat" is still on the menu, for $9.

(Seriously, though, you can keep your Kobe beef. I'll take the bison tongue. Rocky Mountain oysters, too.)



It is a pity considering how good buffalo tastes, but they are making a come back so at least they did not go extinct. On a side note plenty of native americans wasted tons of buffalo meat as well. We all hear how they used every part of the animal, that is not the same as using every animal they killed. The Americans on the trains just did it for totally retarded reasons and in greater numbers.
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post Jul 31 2010, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jul 31 2010, 12:59 PM) *
The poor don't have any place to grow there own food
You mean closet hydroponics doesn't pay for itself? There are no abandoned areas? http://www.livingoffgrid.org/the-basics-of...illa-gardening/ seems almost written for shadowrun.
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there are no affordable places to hunt without getting hunted
The land west of Denver is worth defending?There are no more squirrels, rabbits, pigeons, seagulls?
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the corps doesn't let them have any real food. They check the employees when they leave the fields like mine companies check there employees to make sure they are not making off with some gold.

What happens to overripe, sweetbreads, tripe, and other parts that are good eats but don't sell? (Chicken feet leap to mind.)

Maybe my SR isn't dystopean enough, but healthy workers last longer and if giving them chicken feet cuts down on their attempts at trying to pilfer genetically improved eggs to hatch in homemade incubators, then I'd give them the chicken feet.

Besides, with this much ammo running around I don't want any more dystopia.

Mr. Todd: These are desperate times Mrs. Lovett, and desperate measures are called for.
Mrs. Lovett: Here we are hot out of the oven!
Mr. Todd: What is that?
Mrs. Lovett: It's Orc. Have a little Orc
Mr. Todd: Is it really tender?
Mrs. Lovett: Sir, You could it it with a spork. Then again they don't commit sins of the flesh, so it's pretty fresh.
Mr. Todd: Awful lot of fat.
Mrs. Lovett: Only where it sat.
Mr. Todd: Haven't you got Hacker, or something like that?
Mrs. Lovett: No, you see the trouble with Hacker is you can still taste the dorc. Try the Orc. Adept's rather nice.
Mr. Todd: If it's for a price.
Mrs. Lovett: Order something else though to follow since no one should swallow it twice.
Mr. Todd: Anything that's lean?
Mrs. Lovett: Well then if you don't mind the oil, you might enjoy this Rigger I've seen. Anyway it's clean, though of course it tastes a little of machine.
Mr. Todd: Is that Street Sam on the fire?
Mrs. Lovett: No it's basted in honey, it's really Gun Bunny...
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post Jul 31 2010, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jul 31 2010, 12:59 PM) *
Then your SR just isn't dystopean enough. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The poor don't have any place to grow there own food, there are no affordable places to hunt without getting hunted, and the land they work for the corps doesn't let them have any real food. They check the employees when they leave the fields like mine companies check there employees to make sure they are not making off with some gold.

And the Corporations that own the land have goon squads that make sure every GRAM of food that can be turned into product is, while still allowing the people to work the fields.

Or, you know... Drones. Drones don't eat.
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post Jul 31 2010, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 31 2010, 02:50 PM) *
You mean closet hydroponics doesn't pay for itself? There are no abandoned areas? http://www.livingoffgrid.org/the-basics-of...illa-gardening/ seems almost written for shadowrun.


Where do you get the non-acid rain water, how about power for the lights, and even if something eventually pays for itself you still have to be able to pay for it.

QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 31 2010, 02:50 PM) *
The land west of Denver is worth defending?There are no more squirrels, rabbits, pigeons, seagulls?


The land west of denver is worth defending even if you could get out there, good luck with that. Squirrels, pigeons etc good luck getting a non diseased version in the polluted tomorrow.

QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 31 2010, 02:50 PM) *
What happens to overripe, sweetbreads, tripe, and other parts that are good eats but don't sell? (Chicken feet leap to mind.)


There is always a market somewhere, and waste is common for big evil corps.

QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 31 2010, 02:50 PM) *
Maybe my SR isn't dystopean enough, but healthy workers last longer and if giving them chicken feet cuts down on their attempts at trying to pilfer genetically improved eggs to hatch in homemade incubators, then I'd give them the chicken feet.

Besides, with this much ammo running around I don't want any more dystopia.


Workers can be replacedh, a new worker is cheaper than the food I'd be giving him. And as pointed out Drones would/could be doing this work. Besides soy protean is cheaper and keeps them going fine. Yes it is dystopean but people are not starving to death they just are not eating meat, they eat Soy'Os for breakfast, Soy-burgers for lunch and maybe switch it up and have Krill Steaks for dinner. All of which is fortified so they get all there dietary requirements, mmnn stuffer shack good.
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post Jul 31 2010, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 31 2010, 09:50 PM) *
What happens to overripe, sweetbreads, tripe, and other parts that are good eats but don't sell? (Chicken feet leap to mind.)

They make wonderful sausages.
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post Jul 31 2010, 08:19 PM
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Drones and skillwires cost more than that waste you're throwing away. And why pay to haul waste away when workers will take it home for free?

The "poor people are mindless sheep" meme boggles me. Run with it if you want, it's your world, but from what I can see, if the harder life is for a group of people the less they act like mindless sheep. Either the corps need to deliver a lot of bread and circuses to the Sinless or the sinless are going to focus on making or taking their own.
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post Jul 31 2010, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 31 2010, 03:19 PM) *
Drones and skillwires cost more than that waste you're throwing away. And why pay to haul waste away when workers will take it home for free?

The "poor people are mindless sheep" meme boggles me. Run with it if you want, it's your world, but from what I can see, if the harder life is for a group of people the less they act like mindless sheep. Either the corps need to deliver a lot of bread and circuses to the Sinless or the sinless are going to focus on making or taking their own.



People are mindless sheep,a person may not be, but people are. Also its not "my world" its the Sr setting, people don't eat meat unless they are the rich, corporations treat there employees like crap, corporations will throw stuff away before giving it to there employees, corporations do check every gram of food to make sure employees don't steal a drop of it.

You can say it doesn't make sense because of Y, and maybe you might be right. But hey not everything in SR has to make sense, it just has to make enough sense to play it.
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