Prices for travelling, How much for km? |
Prices for travelling, How much for km? |
Mar 1 2004, 10:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 4-June 03 Member No.: 4,685 |
Yes yes yes, I know. In book X on page Y at the position Z lies the answer, as most people here would point out. But I do not know where this information is, so could somebody post prices of travelling in Shadowrun world, including types of travels? As much of them as possible, because my team wants to change environment of Seattle for a while, so I want to see how far they can get with current money on their hands.
Thanks for answers, till I come up with another boring question. |
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Mar 1 2004, 02:23 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
I'd just go to Hotwire.com or your other favorite travel deal site. Then, get a price for the travel, hotel, rental car whatever they want. If they want a nicer flight or something, add a few hundred.
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Mar 1 2004, 04:08 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
I know the price's for semi-ballistics and sub Orbitals are in Rigger 3. but as for the others unknown
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Mar 1 2004, 04:13 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
I would say go with modern prices + 30%, with an availability of at least 3, due to the criminal nature and teh crack down on anything remotely terrorist in nature.
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Mar 1 2004, 04:49 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
It's pretty impossible to fly without a fake SIN so that's kind of mmmot IMHO anyway.
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Mar 1 2004, 04:50 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Prices for various types of flights are in Sprawl Survival Guide, in the Game Information section.
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Mar 1 2004, 04:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 870 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Idaho Member No.: 5,960 |
prices for orbitals and suborbitals are 0.4 :nuyen: per km with a 4,000 km minimum. Or something really close to that.
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Mar 2 2004, 04:17 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
The prices show up in SSG
.1 :nuyen: a km for a taxi. Other stuff as well, but I don't remember what. |
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Mar 2 2004, 06:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 4-June 03 Member No.: 4,685 |
Ahh thanks, that's what I was looking for - more exotic flights.
They want to travel to Europe, but I wonder if they can scrap such a money :) Most of them have SINs, and they haven't asked about leaving weapons at home anyway. So it will be interesting, when they will try to pass airport security. No more questions on this subject :) |
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Mar 2 2004, 07:03 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Cabs are less than 5 cents a mile!? oooooook.....
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Mar 2 2004, 07:52 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
.1 not .01 that's about 50 current US cents per km.
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Mar 2 2004, 08:14 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
¥.1 per km is 10 cents per km, and one kilometer is 2.2 miles. That's less than 5 cents a mile.
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Mar 2 2004, 08:50 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
?! Last time I checked, one kilometer was about 0.62 miles. So that's 16 cents per mile. |
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Mar 2 2004, 08:53 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Or perhaps one kilogram is 2.2 pounds. Fucking metric system...
nevermind, then! |
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Mar 2 2004, 08:56 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Yeah, I mean, there has to be something horribly wrong with a system where all measurements are standardized and you never have to multiply by anything other than powers of ten.
[Edit]Sorry, I'm just pissed off at the ad-break-fest that was the "live" Oscar TV thingie, and taking it out on anything American. I wonder, though, how long did Herald of Verjigorm think one kilometer is... Or how expensive one nuyen.[/Edit] This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Mar 2 2004, 09:03 AM |
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Mar 2 2004, 09:04 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,965 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 2,032 |
Exactly! Why can't it just use 14?!?
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Mar 2 2004, 09:13 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
I think a prime number would be better. Something like 127.
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Mar 2 2004, 09:33 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Hey, at least we've made up our minds. This sytem uses kilograms as the fundamental unit, that one uses grams, this one uses centimeters, that one uses kilometers, blah blah blah. And lord knows the meter has changed enough over the years.
I'm content with feet. You know what they say about people with big feet, after all :smokin: |
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Mar 2 2004, 10:26 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
So, Zazen, you like our measurement system of cups, pints, quarts, gallons, pecks, bushels, barrels, and hogsheads? The fathom (fingertip to fingertip of extended arms) and the cubit (elbow to fingertip)? Also, the acre (the amount of land that can be plowed by oxen in a day, which really means a morning since the oxen have to rest in the afternoon). A mile (the distance a Roman Legion moves in 1000 paces, a pace being two steps) is incredibly suited to our technological age. Three barleycorns placed end-to-end make one inch. Since barleycorn size is so uniform, this makes one inch easy to verify in towns all across our kingdom. A grain is the weight of one barleycorn, and thus the barleycorn is the standard for both length and weight in our English system. A pound is naturally the weight of 7000 barleycorns. A don't even think of getting into the disagreement between Britian and the United States over a hundredweight (112 lbs in Britain, 100 lbs in US) that leads to the British ton (20-hundredweight) being 2240 lbs. while the American ton (20-hundredweight) is 2000 lbs.
No thank you. I'll take my 2-liter pop any day, along with meters and grams if I can get it. |
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Mar 2 2004, 10:44 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,965 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 2,032 |
Hehe. Well said OurTeam. BTW: What's the basic measurement from the metric system based on? Is it the Gram or the Meter? And which came first? I'm guessing the meter, but I could be wrong.
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Mar 2 2004, 11:06 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Actually, since the second is defined in a way that requires no other metric measurement, and is then used in defining just about every metric measurement, I'd say the "basic" measurement is the second. Though there are other measurements which are not based on any of the others -- like kelvin (temperature).
Less than one-half a billionth (is that a word?) or 0.0000005% between 1872 and 1983, and it has stayed the same since then. The inch changed 2 millionths(?) or 0.0002% between 1893 and 1959, thousands of times more than the meter, and starting from 1893 it has actually been based on the meter, so it's been changing at it's own rate plus the rate of change of the meter. In fact all American measurements that I'm aware of are nowadays firmly based on the metric system.
Eh? The fundamentals are meter, gram, second, kelvin, etc etc. AFAIK, the only SI unit that doesn't use all-fundamentals is the Newton (which uses a kilogram), and thus all units based on the Newton also use the kilogram, but for all other purposes you always use the fundamental units, which are very clearly defined. |
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Mar 2 2004, 11:12 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
The meter came first. In 1799 the meter was standardized as one ten-millionth of the distance from the North Pole to the Equator on a line running through Paris. However they miscalculated the flattening of the earth due to it's rotation when they created the standard reference meter out of metal in 1872, so it was 2mm shorter than it should have been. This meter became a world-wide standard in 1875 when 18 nations (including the US) signed what people in the US call "The Treaty of the Meter". The meter has been the same length ever since, but scientists no longer compare to a standard made of metal (whose length varies with temperature) but instead to the distance light travels in vacuum in a specific fraction of a second.
A gram is the mass of water filling a cube 1 cm on a side. A kilogram is 1000 of those. The international standard for this was made of metal in 1889. In 1901 it was clarified that the kilogram is a unit of mass, not of weight. Though in popular usage, a kilogram is treated as a measure of weight. For practical purposes, the two concepts are equivalent for people on the surface of earth. The mass of a troll standing on the earth will not change if he were to stand on the moon, but his weight certainly would change. |
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Mar 2 2004, 11:26 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
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